Euromanx RJ Arrival...
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It was nice for everyone concerned that EM's plane finally arrived on the rock perhaps Shamus Byrne should learn from his experience that its not always good to be over confident about what you are capable of then in future perhaps him and the staff who are on the front desks won't take so much stick. Good luck to all the front of house staff not only for EM but for the other handlers on the IOM they all are part of one big team who remember, shamus, help each other out at the times of delays and cancellations. Lets face it EM need BA at times same as BA need them (not so much) . Lets stop running each other giving the passengers an airport staff that they can praise.
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Nice to see you on correcting our spellin,
Any comment on the earlier post re "the Ireland's oops.......... I mean Island's airline"
Did you get a snap of the RJ as it passed through, blink & you'd have missed it. Still I do applaud the chartering of an MD82 to keep things moving.
My sources tell me £17,000 a day is roughly the going rate. Can we expect this level of service until the second RJ arrives ?
Nice to see you on correcting our spellin,
Any comment on the earlier post re "the Ireland's oops.......... I mean Island's airline"
Did you get a snap of the RJ as it passed through, blink & you'd have missed it. Still I do applaud the chartering of an MD82 to keep things moving.
My sources tell me £17,000 a day is roughly the going rate. Can we expect this level of service until the second RJ arrives ?
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Sorry I spelt your bosses name wrong, take it from your thread that you must work for Euromanx. I am sure he does a brilliant job, its just a shame that he uses the local papers to boost up an airline that really has not performed on its own right, advertising itself as the Islands airline was really a dangerous thing to do until the routes, the airline were established enough to take the flack when things werent happening on time. When are EM going to get it into there heads that there will never be another Manx Airlines and as the Isle of Man is not even in Europe an airline calling itself Euro Manx does itself no favours with true manx people. The staff you have on your front desk (no longer EuroManx but a handling agent) do a brilliant job trying to pacify passengers who continually have the Islands favorite airline rammed down their throats on mornings such as this morning - delays delays delays.
Oh by the way good name - Euro Bitch sums it all up
Sorry I spelt your bosses name wrong, take it from your thread that you must work for Euromanx. I am sure he does a brilliant job, its just a shame that he uses the local papers to boost up an airline that really has not performed on its own right, advertising itself as the Islands airline was really a dangerous thing to do until the routes, the airline were established enough to take the flack when things werent happening on time. When are EM going to get it into there heads that there will never be another Manx Airlines and as the Isle of Man is not even in Europe an airline calling itself Euro Manx does itself no favours with true manx people. The staff you have on your front desk (no longer EuroManx but a handling agent) do a brilliant job trying to pacify passengers who continually have the Islands favorite airline rammed down their throats on mornings such as this morning - delays delays delays.
Oh by the way good name - Euro Bitch sums it all up
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Complete agreement with fragul.
The Euro's need to get its home base sorted before venturing off to the west coast of Ireland. I can only think that there must be a greater financial draw or incentive there; why else start services and attempt to start a base at such short notice in the relative middle of nowhere? Perhaps the new owners' knowlege of European geography is not up to scratch. And the Euro's have been quite happy to wet lease all and sundry for services on the Island so what is so important that after a couple of days showing the livery in Galway that a lease cannot be operated there (its only 2 flights a day which can hardly be ecomical use of the Avro aircraft) and the Avro return to the Island to start the services it has been extensively publicised for.
Euromanx needs to start rebuilding bridges with its 'home' market and a based aircraft would be a start. Well done on getting the long awaited Avro flying but to give Galway priority is a kick in the teeth for the Manx passengers.
Out of interest, what has the MD been used for - certainly not LCY!
The Euro's need to get its home base sorted before venturing off to the west coast of Ireland. I can only think that there must be a greater financial draw or incentive there; why else start services and attempt to start a base at such short notice in the relative middle of nowhere? Perhaps the new owners' knowlege of European geography is not up to scratch. And the Euro's have been quite happy to wet lease all and sundry for services on the Island so what is so important that after a couple of days showing the livery in Galway that a lease cannot be operated there (its only 2 flights a day which can hardly be ecomical use of the Avro aircraft) and the Avro return to the Island to start the services it has been extensively publicised for.
Euromanx needs to start rebuilding bridges with its 'home' market and a based aircraft would be a start. Well done on getting the long awaited Avro flying but to give Galway priority is a kick in the teeth for the Manx passengers.
Out of interest, what has the MD been used for - certainly not LCY!
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I suspect 3W's love for Ireland centres on the possibility of PSO money. If that evaporates I suspect the RJ will have a sudden change in priorities...
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When you lot gonna give up slating Euromanx?
We are the largest carrier on the island based on pax figures....perfect we aint yet but trust me all that should be sorted when we have the full new fleet on line.
You have a right to an opinion just like I have and quite frankly I really dont care what you think.
At least with Euromanx flights delayed, unlike other carriers who just cancel.
Glad you got a sense of humour about my name budgie!
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We are the largest carrier on the island based on pax figures....perfect we aint yet but trust me all that should be sorted when we have the full new fleet on line.
You have a right to an opinion just like I have and quite frankly I really dont care what you think.
At least with Euromanx flights delayed, unlike other carriers who just cancel.
Glad you got a sense of humour about my name budgie!
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Glad you can see the humour in my reply. We all need a good sense of humour working in this industry especially when we are on a rock in the middle of the sea!!!!
I think the answer to your question about when people are going to stop slating EM is when they stop slating the oposition.
I also take it from your last remark that EM never cancel flights - I don't think so - proves my point about not slating the other airlines doesnt it.
Keep up the good job EB you are one in a million!!!!!
Glad you can see the humour in my reply. We all need a good sense of humour working in this industry especially when we are on a rock in the middle of the sea!!!!
I think the answer to your question about when people are going to stop slating EM is when they stop slating the oposition.
I also take it from your last remark that EM never cancel flights - I don't think so - proves my point about not slating the other airlines doesnt it.
Keep up the good job EB you are one in a million!!!!!
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We dont generally cancel as many flights as one of our opposition. Like I said before we aint perfect yet, were growing rapidly and as with any growing company there will be a few glitches along the way.
At least hansol will stop banging on about us not being an airline just a ticketing agent!! he he
keep smilin
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We dont generally cancel as many flights as one of our opposition. Like I said before we aint perfect yet, were growing rapidly and as with any growing company there will be a few glitches along the way.
At least hansol will stop banging on about us not being an airline just a ticketing agent!! he he
keep smilin
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Just remember you are not the only relativley new company at the airport and we all need each others support.
No one likes cancellations especially the front of house staff who generally take all the flack while the bosses stay in the background.
I think all the front of house staff no matter who they work for do a brilliant job in times of stress and they all deserve a big pat on the back no matter what uniform they wear.
Operations departments in all airlines have to make some strange decisions but it is the guys at the front who have to cover the good and the bad decisions lets all pull together for a better airport
Keep up the good work EB
Just remember you are not the only relativley new company at the airport and we all need each others support.
No one likes cancellations especially the front of house staff who generally take all the flack while the bosses stay in the background.
I think all the front of house staff no matter who they work for do a brilliant job in times of stress and they all deserve a big pat on the back no matter what uniform they wear.
Operations departments in all airlines have to make some strange decisions but it is the guys at the front who have to cover the good and the bad decisions lets all pull together for a better airport
Keep up the good work EB
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Just to add to the thread, a JetX MD82 TF-JXB operated MAN flights yesturday! What the 
Also does anybody have "ANY" idea what should be running on the LPL sector by August?
Or am i pushing my luck a but there
Also does anybody have "ANY" idea what should be running on the LPL sector by August?
Or am i pushing my luck a but there
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Well, I for one was disappointed to see the RJ had disappeared to foreign climes this morning. I'm just glad I took a (wet) pic of it yesterday.
I do believe EB when she (he?) says that when they are fully up and running things will be better. But like most here, wonder just when that will be. No one can predict much in this business, but to be constantly told "things will get better" makes EM sound like Tony Blair on speed.
As for cancellations, I have to say that when certain other airlines cancel, they are able to run replacement aircraft, something EM doesn't seem to be able to do yet. Perhaps when their fleet is in place......
It does seem a popular pastime at the airport to run EM down. In fact several of the people I work with would love to see them go down the pan. I just hope that EB is right and very soon they can show all these doubters that they CAN run an airline with their own aircraft efficiently and professionally.
Anyway, thanks for the MD-80 and lets have the next RJ soon.
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I do believe EB when she (he?) says that when they are fully up and running things will be better. But like most here, wonder just when that will be. No one can predict much in this business, but to be constantly told "things will get better" makes EM sound like Tony Blair on speed.
As for cancellations, I have to say that when certain other airlines cancel, they are able to run replacement aircraft, something EM doesn't seem to be able to do yet. Perhaps when their fleet is in place......
It does seem a popular pastime at the airport to run EM down. In fact several of the people I work with would love to see them go down the pan. I just hope that EB is right and very soon they can show all these doubters that they CAN run an airline with their own aircraft efficiently and professionally.
Anyway, thanks for the MD-80 and lets have the next RJ soon.
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Euromanx have applied for one of the Public Service Obligation routes (probably Galway Dublin) which is subsidised and a monopoly.
Euromanx have applied for one of the Public Service Obligation routes (probably Galway Dublin) which is subsidised and a monopoly.
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Eurobitch
I presume you are not very high in the hierarchy at Euromanx, or you may have been more careful with your words.
However as you are the closest we have on Pprune to a spokesperson, two statements in your recent post do not auger well for the Isle of Man residents.
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seem to reveal much about your (and your company's?) attitude to the travelling public.
I remind you that since this time yesterday at least 2 of your return flights (ie 4 sectors)have been cancelled that I know of (there may be more) so to accuse others of this is not wise.
I presume you are not very high in the hierarchy at Euromanx, or you may have been more careful with your words.
However as you are the closest we have on Pprune to a spokesperson, two statements in your recent post do not auger well for the Isle of Man residents.
We are the largest carrier on the island based on pax figures
You have a right to an opinion just like I have and quite frankly I really dont care what you think.
I remind you that since this time yesterday at least 2 of your return flights (ie 4 sectors)have been cancelled that I know of (there may be more) so to accuse others of this is not wise.
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1st Euromanx GWY-LCY CANCELLED
Looks like the first GWL-LCY flight tonight got off to a good start with a cancellation.
Supposedly the flight tookoff then had to return due tech fault
I guess 1 or 2 (literally) annoyed passengers!
Supposedly the flight tookoff then had to return due tech fault
I guess 1 or 2 (literally) annoyed passengers!
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If I may add; Euromanx cancelled their new route Galway-London city this evening on their first day operating this route......
The flight tomorrow morning has been delayed as well...
Smiert spionom.
The flight tomorrow morning has been delayed as well...
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EB
When are u going to learn - shouting about not cancelling flights is not a good thing to do - it just gives people amunition to have a go.
Its a shame that you take so much stick but you do leave yourself wide open to criticism
Oh and the passenger figures its not the figures that count but the service and if you can't give a good service it won't be long before the figures mean nothing.
How long before routes start being dropped not long I fear, EM cannot survive on their press propoganda for long if they can't deliver what the Island keep being promised, no matter how good SEAMUS (got it right) is at PR , after all the bills have to be paid for the prestige of having all those offices and that sign saying "Irelands favorite (OH sorry)Islands favorite airline"
When are u going to learn - shouting about not cancelling flights is not a good thing to do - it just gives people amunition to have a go.
Its a shame that you take so much stick but you do leave yourself wide open to criticism
Oh and the passenger figures its not the figures that count but the service and if you can't give a good service it won't be long before the figures mean nothing.
How long before routes start being dropped not long I fear, EM cannot survive on their press propoganda for long if they can't deliver what the Island keep being promised, no matter how good SEAMUS (got it right) is at PR , after all the bills have to be paid for the prestige of having all those offices and that sign saying "Irelands favorite (OH sorry)Islands favorite airline"