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Old 19th Dec 2004, 10:31
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The log book etc... has been removed by the leasing company.....some people just don't like those P&W in there airspace. The Icelandair B757 is now going to be a regular thing.

The Flyjet is also going to be weekly replacing the B762.

Infact the Icelandair B757 last week went direct BHX-ATQ with about 140ish pax on. No stop in Slovakia !
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Cityjet (Ireland) are the airline which will apparently take over the Air France flights between BHX-CDG from Flybe. These begin April 1st.

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now we have 4 LCCs at bhx, does anyone else think/hope like me that they will move off the usual agp, alc, pmi routes wich must be saturated from the midlands now, and move into new routes from bhx such as gib(ZB?), psa, bud, waw, bio, sxf etc?????

By the way Dutchbird are operating a santa flight tomorrow, originating from STN!

And also, did anyone get to see the HF A310 today??

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The HLF A310 was the ex Lufthansa example, mainly white with red titles.

Gibraltar is a possibility once Monarch (Scheduled) starts expanding at BHX.
Pisa is served by Thomsonfly from Coventry
As for Warsaw, there were mentions recently of LOT looking at BHX (similar frequency to Manchesters flight).
Berlin was a DUO route, not sure of the loads carried but BA were looking at the route but currently have no spare aircraft to use.

Tomorrows Dutchbird routes Stansted-BHX-Ivalo-BHX-Stansted + there are two Transavia B737-800s from Santaland into BHX tonight.

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I think flybe could make Pisa work, either with a d8-400(not sure if they have the range) or the 146,I flew bhx-psa in the summer on a ba 146/rj100 and it was virtually full both ways. Admittedly I think the majority were people on charter packages but by the looks of some people on the flight, they were on flight only. The place was heaving with brits when we got there though.

I heard the DUO Berlin flight was one of the flights that was picking up towards the end and that BA were going to have a shuffle round with aircraft to fit Berlin into their route network from BHX, maybe next summer?
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I would think flybe could use one of their new 737s on the pisa route

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hi,

Does anyone know who is replacing the Franchise on the BHX - CDG route? or are Air France operating it themselves?

Thanks, also what hapenning on the sunshine route, somethings got to give. There will be 4 LLC's on the malaga route, plus the usual Chaters. Somethings got to give. Malaga is just an example. Its cazy, wonder whats going to happen. Nice to see flybe have put Perpignan back on next years schedule.

Bye for now

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Old 20th Dec 2004, 18:18
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Cityjet (Ireland) will be operating the BHX-CDG route with BAe146-200s (Flybe are currently scheduled to use 146-300s). Cityjet being 100% owned by Air France.

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BACX BHX Possible expansion

BACX are looking at expanding at BHX next summer rumours I have heard (from a BA employee) include the EMB 170 and up to 6 new routes!! From next summer they want to re-take the number one spot at BHX in terms of destinations. Hope these rumours are true!!
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ATI reports that United and SAS are to start codesharing on BHX-CPH from early 2005.

Given that UA doesn't serve CPH either (except via codeshare on SK flights), what's this about, then? Was SK feeling left out that any UA connections from the US to BHX were going via FRA? Were UA keen to start offering BHX-to-US connections via CPH on SK metal? Or are they planning a direct translantic service to BHX? (note: before this turns into an "official rumour" , I have no evidence whatsoever for it, except as an attempted explanation for the BHX-CPH codeshare).

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United will do CPH-IAD for SAS untill summer
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As regards to BACX, there are several rumours here & in "Rumours & News forums" about the current relationship between BA & BACX, apparently it isn't all rosy with several people mentioning BA cutting CX loose.

We will have to wait & see!!
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CO operating the 764 again on the 29/12 and 5/1

Are those E170s the Alitalia examples? And new routes? Nearly forgotten what they are here at BHX!!!

Cyrano, you may joke about UA starting to BHX but I did hear a rumour about them looking at BHX not so long ago(at the routes convention)! However they seem to be concentrating on the Pacific at the mo.
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Mark:

Having been at the last few Routes conferences I know that the fact that an airline and an airport have talked for 15 minutes there means next to nothing. Either side can request the meeting, so I would expect the BHX marketing folks to have arranged meetings with pretty much all the US carriers (and various Asian ones, and various European ones...). To give you an example of funky meetings at Routes 2004 (just one example among several): Delta and Doncaster. Guess who asked for that one? (Clue: not the airline).
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Continental are likely to operate B764s regulary on Wednesdays, mainly be cause this is a day when there is only ONE departure to Newark rather than the usual two (COA26 & COA32).

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Cyrano:

UA asked to speak to BHX, as did SA and no doubt a few more airlines. I don't remember saying any routes were going to be started following this, I simply said UA were looking at BHX, which they did and have decided nothing will happen in the near future
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Can any one tell me who European operate charters to Munster and Paderborn for

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The european charters are for the M.O.D.
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An article off icbirmingham.co.uk








£250,000 legal bill to tackle airport Dec 21 2004




By Paul Dale, Birmingham Post


West Midlands council tax payers face a £250,000 legal bill to fight the planned expansion of Coventry Airport.

Six of the region's district councils, including Birmingham, have clubbed together to hire a top QC.

The councils are all shareholders in Birmingham International Airport, which they fear will be damaged financially if Coventry Airport's growth as a centre for low-cost holiday flights is allowed to go unchecked.

A legal team will represent the councils at a public inquiry into Warwick District Council's decision to refuse permission for a new passenger terminal and additional car parking at Coventry Airport.

Economy flight specialists ThomsonFly began commercial flights from Coventry in March, arguing that since the airport pre-dates the 1947 Town and Country Planning Act there were no restrictions on the type, frequency or number of flights.

Warwick District Council served an enforcement notice requiring the airport to dis-mantle a temporary passenger terminal.

The latest planning application from Coventry Airport envisages a 10,000 sq mtr terminal, parking for 3,425 cars and up to two million passenger movements by 2012.

The West Midlands district councils, with the exception of Coventry which is supporting the airport's expansion, argue that any future growth should be limited to two million passenger movements a year and subject to improved public transport access to the airport.

Mike Whitby, leader of Birmingham City Council, said: "The underlying concern is that development at Coventry could undermine the long-term expansion of BIA. If this were to happen there could be considerable detrimental impact on the region's economy."

A report to yesterday's Birmingham council Cabinet meeting warned: "The tendency for no-frills operators to seek alternative airfields is not limited to Coventry since similar proposals have also emerged at Wolverhampton Business Airport. While this decentralisation might have local economic benefits it is considered detrimental to the future of BIA, thereby the region's economy."
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The West Midlands district councils, with the exception of Coventry which is supporting the airport's expansion, argue that any future growth should be limited to two million passenger movements a year and subject to improved public transport access to the airport.
Haven't Coventry Airport said they will cap passenger no's at 2m anyhow? There has recently been a new bus link between the airport & Coventry centre via the train station started aswell & TOM have just delivered their fifth B737 to Coventry.

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