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OK, so no leap years to blame like last month, and they've had 11 months to recover from the collapse of Duo. Despite baby's new hub, numbers are still down?
Some numbers aren't adding up at BHX, and you can't blame CVT for all of that!
Some numbers aren't adding up at BHX, and you can't blame CVT for all of that!
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Were PIA operating more flights last March (the Pakistan-BHX flights + the ones that carried on to the US/Canada that now go via Manchester)? These are quite full each time, there was also the loss of the 6x weekly Skyways flight to Stockholm, the Swiss flights to Basle & the collapse of Midland Airways in March
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Passenger falls
The reason passengers are still falling is because of MytravelLITEs reduction of its winter programme compaired to last year. Most of its sunshine routes were daily they are now just a few times per week. BHX has fallen victim of an struggling Mytravel. April should return an increase with the 4th BMI Baby aircraft and the big Flybe increase plus later this summer the 2x daily Emirates and Air India.
P.S. Basle no longer functioned as a transit stop for Swiss hence its demise and SK are taking over ARN this month
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P.S. Basle no longer functioned as a transit stop for Swiss hence its demise and SK are taking over ARN this month
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PIA was only a temporary measure, this was due to 747 being taken off BHX due heavy maintenance, this necessitated the switch of some MAN flights to continue capacity.....
I think the original plan was for PIA to revert back to the original prog' ie Back to Manchester when complete !
I think the original plan was for PIA to revert back to the original prog' ie Back to Manchester when complete !
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and SK are taking over ARN this month
Presumably the DHC8Q-400 used by SAS is slightly slower than the ERJ145 used by Skyways
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Mentioned in the Birmingham Post business section today, Air India plans to increase the number of flights from BHX to possibly daily as soon they can, this was mentioned by their Chairman & Managing Director of Air India.
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Just booking a flight to DXB with emirates on-line and every date i've tried all through the year only shows EK 39/40 no mention of EK 37/38 also Sabre are showin zero availability right up until Feb 06. I have called emirates and they are saying these flights are simply full everyday outbound and return (very doubtful). I know EK have postponed some european destinations due to lack of aircraft but not BHX again!!! Anyone know any more info?
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....... and also notice that from the winter 2005/06 timetable, the remaining single daily departure is back to a 772.
Is it only in the airline industry where you are legally allowed to sell something that doesn't exist ! I have friends who had their travel plans disrupted the last time Emirates sold "tickets of fiction" on the 2nd daily flight that never materialised.
The non-running of this flight can be very inconvenient when you are using it to connect to the Far East/Australia, as when you are rebooked you may find the alternative connecting flight at DXB is already fully booked (as happened in this case).
I do hope that Emirates don't make the same decision again.
Is it only in the airline industry where you are legally allowed to sell something that doesn't exist ! I have friends who had their travel plans disrupted the last time Emirates sold "tickets of fiction" on the 2nd daily flight that never materialised.
The non-running of this flight can be very inconvenient when you are using it to connect to the Far East/Australia, as when you are rebooked you may find the alternative connecting flight at DXB is already fully booked (as happened in this case).
I do hope that Emirates don't make the same decision again.
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Last time is a LHR slot this time aircraft shortage has been mentioned.
I thought airlines has planning departments.
Perhaps as this may have happened twice the sales were not upto expectations.
It also happened with the Gulf Traveller.
I wonder if Air India will find an excuse.
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I thought airlines has planning departments.
Perhaps as this may have happened twice the sales were not upto expectations.
It also happened with the Gulf Traveller.
I wonder if Air India will find an excuse.
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Just looked in Sabre myself and both flights showing available for selective dates I have tried in December, January and March. Admitably I have not applied any filters, so I am looking at any fare type. Possibly you have been too choosy in the fares level you have asked for??
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It's all back to normal on emirates.com and on amadeus etc must have been a strange glitch in the booking system. Just strange how when I called them they said all flights were full everyday in all classes but now are bookable again!
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Slightly off the topic but does anyone know why EK 38/37 is not operating throughout August. Advert for the second daily flight today in the B'ham Post and at the bottom its says not available 1st - 31st August and can't book on the site either.
Only a guess, and could be wide of the mark, but it's extremely hot in India during August, and historically loads are poor for the VFR business from UK to India at that time. So it is possible that capacity is cut to reflect demand during August.
Of course, business traffic tends to be a bit slack during August too.
As the ad. in question also refers to Australia, is it possible it's the onward connection that a non-op?
Of course, business traffic tends to be a bit slack during August too.
As the ad. in question also refers to Australia, is it possible it's the onward connection that a non-op?
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From today's Birmingham Post.....
Link:Birmingham Post
Emirates seeks IPO to expand
May 4 2005
By Steve Pain, Deputy Business Editor
Dubai's Emirates airline - due to launch its second daily service from Birmingham on June 1 and already hinting at the possibility of a third flight - is considering an initial public offering to help its rapid expansion.
But the government of fast growing Dubai has yet to make a decision, the company's chairman said yesterday.
"We have one new aircraft coming every month for the next five to six years and that takes a lot of financing," said Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed al-Maktoum, chairman of state-owned Emirates Group.
"Whether we do an IPO is a decision for the government of Dubai. We are always thinking about it, but we haven't taken a firm decision.
"It's something we have looked at, but I am waiting for the owner to make any final decision," Sheikh Ahmed added.
Meanwhile, Tim Clark, Emirates' president, has strongly hinted the carrier would be interested in launching a third service from Birmingham International - but warned that the airport would first need to improve its terminal facilities.
Mr Clark, who lives in Barnt Green, has already hammered home his message to executives at BIA, telling them that in addition to a longer runway, Emirates would like to to see terminal facilities capable of handling aircraft able to carry more than 400 passengers.
Currently the airline operates Boeing 777-200 airliners out of Birmingham. But if the demand is there, Mr Clark said it could consider flying the larger Boeing 777-300 Extended Range version of the airliner, able to carry 423 passengers in a business/economy configuration.
"We hope that the airport will be developed and would like to see a longer runway - but I can certainly understand the sensitivities surrounding that," he said.
However, he believes Birmingham Airport's terminal facilities are now "creaking at at the seams" with departure lounges designed to house just 100 people - far too small for today's requirements.
"We really do need to see something bigger," added Mr Clark.
"Because I can see a third daily service out of Birmingham and I think others could well do the same. If it is a potent argument for us, it will be potent for other people."
If it is able to expand, BIA could take advantage of "enormous opportunities" at the expense of Heathrow, he said.
"Passengers from Plymouth, Exeter and South Wales say it is much easier to fly from Birmingham.
"And it is fact that Taunton to Birmingham is 20 minutes less than to Heathrow," he said.
Emirates last week reported a 48.7 per cent rise in net profits to £335.2 million for the year to the end of March, while total revenue increased 36 per cent to £3 billion.
It is owned by the government of Dubai, a regional tourism and trade hub which is part of the oil-rich United Arab Emirates, and is taking 45 of the new Airbus A380 superjumbo aircraft.
May 4 2005
By Steve Pain, Deputy Business Editor
Dubai's Emirates airline - due to launch its second daily service from Birmingham on June 1 and already hinting at the possibility of a third flight - is considering an initial public offering to help its rapid expansion.
But the government of fast growing Dubai has yet to make a decision, the company's chairman said yesterday.
"We have one new aircraft coming every month for the next five to six years and that takes a lot of financing," said Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed al-Maktoum, chairman of state-owned Emirates Group.
"Whether we do an IPO is a decision for the government of Dubai. We are always thinking about it, but we haven't taken a firm decision.
"It's something we have looked at, but I am waiting for the owner to make any final decision," Sheikh Ahmed added.
Meanwhile, Tim Clark, Emirates' president, has strongly hinted the carrier would be interested in launching a third service from Birmingham International - but warned that the airport would first need to improve its terminal facilities.
Mr Clark, who lives in Barnt Green, has already hammered home his message to executives at BIA, telling them that in addition to a longer runway, Emirates would like to to see terminal facilities capable of handling aircraft able to carry more than 400 passengers.
Currently the airline operates Boeing 777-200 airliners out of Birmingham. But if the demand is there, Mr Clark said it could consider flying the larger Boeing 777-300 Extended Range version of the airliner, able to carry 423 passengers in a business/economy configuration.
"We hope that the airport will be developed and would like to see a longer runway - but I can certainly understand the sensitivities surrounding that," he said.
However, he believes Birmingham Airport's terminal facilities are now "creaking at at the seams" with departure lounges designed to house just 100 people - far too small for today's requirements.
"We really do need to see something bigger," added Mr Clark.
"Because I can see a third daily service out of Birmingham and I think others could well do the same. If it is a potent argument for us, it will be potent for other people."
If it is able to expand, BIA could take advantage of "enormous opportunities" at the expense of Heathrow, he said.
"Passengers from Plymouth, Exeter and South Wales say it is much easier to fly from Birmingham.
"And it is fact that Taunton to Birmingham is 20 minutes less than to Heathrow," he said.
Emirates last week reported a 48.7 per cent rise in net profits to £335.2 million for the year to the end of March, while total revenue increased 36 per cent to £3 billion.
It is owned by the government of Dubai, a regional tourism and trade hub which is part of the oil-rich United Arab Emirates, and is taking 45 of the new Airbus A380 superjumbo aircraft.
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Figures out still showing a decline for April, compared to '04. Now this is the first month to compare against the return of pax flights from CVT, and it doesn't look good for our bigger neighbour.
Since last year, Duo may have gone, but BE have based 737s, we've had a massive new baby base, and a few more trips to the sun on Monarch scheduled.
Baby have been saying that they've put lots of bums on seats, but some how this maths doesn't seem to be adding up.
Could any of the brum insiders explain?
Since last year, Duo may have gone, but BE have based 737s, we've had a massive new baby base, and a few more trips to the sun on Monarch scheduled.
Baby have been saying that they've put lots of bums on seats, but some how this maths doesn't seem to be adding up.
Could any of the brum insiders explain?
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Air India Inaugrual Flight
Air India new three times per week Delhi-Amritsar-Birmingham-Toronto service today, Boeing 772 VT-AIK arrived a few minutes early !
It is expected that this service will do daily very soon.
Ian
Sorry should read VT-AIJ !
It is expected that this service will do daily very soon.
Ian
Sorry should read VT-AIJ !
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April figures down
If I remember correctly DUO ceased operating on 1st May 2004. So that said, April 2004 would still include DUO passenger numbers, so the impact of DUO's demise will show in the BHX passenger figures until April 2005.
Now May's figures will be interesting as these should show a notable improvement year on year as May 2004 was very poor.
We are a few weeks away from finding out.
Now May's figures will be interesting as these should show a notable improvement year on year as May 2004 was very poor.
We are a few weeks away from finding out.