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Old 20th Jan 2005, 18:04
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Mike16

Have you had word about EZY expanding at EMA then ?

If so, spill the beans !!!
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Old 20th Jan 2005, 18:14
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EMA happenings

Some talk about EZY coming to DSA,but won't know till after 31st.Jan. Only arumour,but that's what the site is about.
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I met one of the big bosses of EZY the other day and she says our future at EMA is very promising and they are AWARE of BMIbabys position, of moving over to BHX, and they realise we have scope at EMA.
The only down size to EMA, is that airport apparently is very expensive to operate from, and this is not EZY style, so that is why they have not expanded at EMA like other bases have done like NCL, BFS etc.......
So keep all fingers crossed and let's hope we get there.

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no more news about the Toulouse route for summer with BmiBaby please ?
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Thanks Mike16

It would be GREAT to see EZY expand at EMA. As you say there is plenty of scope now baby seem to be 'down sizing'.

I'll keep my fingers & everything else crossed !!

Keep us upto date if you can.
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Fingers crossed for EZY expansion @ NEMA then!!

I'm sure NEMA management could come up with a deal for EZY, esp with baby downsizing and no apparent source of growth at the moment.
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Expensive airports are a lot less FR's style, yet they seem to have launched more new EMA routes in the last year than EZY?

How come?
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Ryanair have only been there for a year, i am not sure if it is that yet ! So how can you compare that to EZY who do 9 routes, we announced 2 new routes this year our CGN and CIA, we got rid of the BCN GLA as glasgow is expensive to operate to and Barcelona our slot was going.
We all thought EMA was going to be a base for FR, where is it ?
They obvisouly know it is an expensive airport to operate from, this is the downside to EMA, they could do so well, prime location etc......


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Expensive airports are a lot less FR's style, yet they seem to have launched more new EMA routes in the last year than EZY?
How come?
The airport will have different deals with each airline so Ryanair have obviously got a better deal than EZY. Also EZY have been operating from NEMA for several years now so any initial deal incentives will probably have reduced, whereas Ryanair is still in its first year and I'm sure NEMA gave them a good deal to attract them across from BHX.

I think RYR will launch a few more routes from NEMA but still not using NEMA as a base.

C'mon easyJet...NEMA is ure's for the taking!
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Apologies if this has already been noted, but have seen Croatian is to start a summer scheduled EMA-DBV on a Tuesday with a 319.

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Old 25th Jan 2005, 22:20
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It has been reported on BBC TV East midlands that NEMA is spending £2 million upgrading facilities such as a new lounge, shops etc.
Presumably these improvements will still be of use if the airport has a new terminal in the future, or will it be 2 mill down the drain?

Secondly I have a query, was one of the main instigators of the airports name change a senior figure in BMI Baby? The very airline that is now downsizing at EGNX and increasing capacity at BHX.
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Old 25th Jan 2005, 22:35
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Well quite...but the name still needed sorting.
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Old 26th Jan 2005, 08:28
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In airport speak, "£2 million" is not alot of money for a facelift.

It will be money well spent to see the current terminal through to the time the new one is in place.

From BBC:-

Airport gets facilities facelift
A £2m upgrade is starting on facilities for passengers at Nottingham East Midlands Airport.
The work will include construction of more shops, an executive lounge, internet access and refurbished flooring and seating.

Work has already begun on extending the departure lounge and adding bar facilities at the airport in Castle Donington, Leics.

The new executive lounge will have seating for 40 people.


Most of the work will be completed by May 2005, when the airport is planning to introduce new long-haul routes, including some to the Dominican Republic, Cancun and Florida.
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Old 26th Jan 2005, 14:15
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Flew out of NEMA yesterday, the bar and coffee shop in the international departure lounge are closed and boarded up (with much activity taking place if the noise was anything to go by).

The facilities upstairs which only used to be availible landside have been closed off and are now availible airside. So if you want a coffee/beer/burger/whatever airside you now have to go upstairs.

Good news about the new lounge, it was a very sad day when bmi closed theirs.
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Old 27th Jan 2005, 17:20
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On BBC Midlands teletext (again!) last night it stated that BMI Baby flew to 20 different destinations from EGNX in 2004.
In 2005 it will be 11, now I cannot vouch if these figures are accurate or not, but nobody can dispute that the airline are putting more eggs in the basket of BHX than NEMA.
It still annoys me that the BMI Baby guy persuaded airport management to change the name to Nottingham then gave a Winston Churchill and slid off down the A/M42 to Birmingham.

Bring back EMA, that's what I say
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Old 31st Jan 2005, 14:31
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Hi

In our local paper The Derby Evening Telegraph today, it states in there that figures are now down at EMA and that the recent poll RE: name change has not helped much at all. Also with BMIbaby shifting more than 50% of there services over to BHX, not much of a future now at EMA.
So lets hope EZY get in well very soon.

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"not much of a future now at EMA"

You obviously haven't been around during the night!! Still handling more freight than any other airport apart from Heathrow...who needs pax!!!

Not only that but I am reliably informed from within that the move to Brum is more to do with the "Maersk-ism"within baby than any other commercial factors-time will tell if its a good move for them.
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Old 31st Jan 2005, 16:42
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BMI Baby at BHX

Sounds like sour grapes to me!!
BMIBaby had its biggest passenger numbers in the launch week of a new base and have sold more than 120000 seats for the year to Oct. The reason you have all the freight is because EMA is in the middle of no-where BHX has strict noise restrictions due to the proximity of the city. Dont blame EMAs problems on the success of the UKs 2nd largest airport outside London
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but I am reliably informed from within that the move to Brum is more to do with the "Maersk-ism"within baby than any other commercial factors
What do you mean by this Evil J??
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Old 1st Feb 2005, 07:16
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Hi Mike-

Beware of the Derby Telegraph - it is not known for its objective reporting.

These are the figures published by the airport company:-

Passenger Figures
2004: 4.38 million 2.9% increase on 2003
2003: 4.26 milllion 32% increase on 2002
2002: 3.2 million


Passengers in December 04
274,054, 19% up on December 03


As is often the case, you can make a number of headlines out of these figures, both good and bad. The airport has increased its annual pax numbers, despite a reduction in the number of WW services.

True, the increase percentage has fallen, alot, but exactly the same is true at STN, and I think you'll find that BHX figures were not so good for 2004.

At the moment LPL LTN and NCL seem to be doing very well in the LoCo sector.

One thing for sure is that you have to look at growth over a longer period of time, and EMA has grown - most of the time steadily rather than explosively - since it opened.

2005 will see new long haul services, a new scheduled service to Malta and Solvenia. The return of business facilities in the terminal for the bmi BRU, CDG and NCE flights.

easyJet are holding strong, Ryanair are growing their market.

EMA has a solid foundation. It does need to improve its marketing and development teams.

It will be fery interesting to see what happens in the Brum Scrum. With Baby, Monarch, FlyBE fighting it out new this year, and TOM bighting their ankles down the road at CVT.

BHX is doing well - but all that glitters is not gold - and I can't see that EZY of FR will not put the pressure on, either at EMA or BRS.
WW is still a small fish in the big pond, Jet2 is flexing stronger muscles than WW.

With the Jet2, EZY, TOM and FR sharks circling the BHX pond, and the pond itself being a fighting ground, I for one would not be pulling party poppers and streamers at the thought of my airline basing there.

It will be interesting to watch.

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