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I presume thet must have announced them to have cancelled them, anyway this has been taken from the BA website.
"GB Airways have cancelled their Manchester to Lanzarote and Manchester to Las Palmas services for the Winter 2005/06 schedule.
GB Airways have put procedures in place to help customers whose travel plans have been disrupted by this flight cancellation."
Follow the link to confirm.
http://latestflightnews.custhelp.com...cGFnZT0x&p_li=
"GB Airways have cancelled their Manchester to Lanzarote and Manchester to Las Palmas services for the Winter 2005/06 schedule.
GB Airways have put procedures in place to help customers whose travel plans have been disrupted by this flight cancellation."
Follow the link to confirm.
http://latestflightnews.custhelp.com...cGFnZT0x&p_li=
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Hi Ringwayman,
Just to confirm, it is not my intention to criticize dwlpl in any way; hopefully he will not require defence! But I remain puzzled as to what document/medium these routes have been "dropped" from. Have they ever been announced or put on sale at any stage? Were they "bookable"? Thanks for any info you can provide which clears this up.
SHED.
dwlpl - Thanks for your response. You must have been typing at the same instant as myself (answering "Ringwayman\'s" post).
Regards, SHED.
Note: the above message edited following the appearance of dwlpl response.
Just to confirm, it is not my intention to criticize dwlpl in any way; hopefully he will not require defence! But I remain puzzled as to what document/medium these routes have been "dropped" from. Have they ever been announced or put on sale at any stage? Were they "bookable"? Thanks for any info you can provide which clears this up.
SHED.
dwlpl - Thanks for your response. You must have been typing at the same instant as myself (answering "Ringwayman\'s" post).
Regards, SHED.
Note: the above message edited following the appearance of dwlpl response.
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Further down the announcement it says:
" Customers booked to travel on the BA6830 Manchester to Lanzarote and the BA6831 Lanzarote to Manchester or BA 6832 Manchester to Las Palmas or the BA 6833 Las Palmas to Manchester may:
Refund of the original GB Airways flight, plus any parts of the journey not made which are on the same ticket as the original flight:
Refunds are available within a year from the original flight date.
The refund must be provided to the original form of payment"
So at some stage the seats must have been bookable in order for a refund to take place.
" Customers booked to travel on the BA6830 Manchester to Lanzarote and the BA6831 Lanzarote to Manchester or BA 6832 Manchester to Las Palmas or the BA 6833 Las Palmas to Manchester may:
Refund of the original GB Airways flight, plus any parts of the journey not made which are on the same ticket as the original flight:
Refunds are available within a year from the original flight date.
The refund must be provided to the original form of payment"
So at some stage the seats must have been bookable in order for a refund to take place.
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Might of missed this guys,
But I hear BWIA have cancelled all seat sales in the UK apart from LHR. Reason being is they are struggling financially and have to return 9Y-JIL their second 340 which would mean PIK, MAN and BFS all would get cancelled.
Anyone heard anything?
Kpiko3
But I hear BWIA have cancelled all seat sales in the UK apart from LHR. Reason being is they are struggling financially and have to return 9Y-JIL their second 340 which would mean PIK, MAN and BFS all would get cancelled.
Anyone heard anything?
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The is apparently a predicted 12% increase in traffic this summer compared to last summer.
Some remote stands are being split into 2's for 757's 767's etc etc.
Better make sure they have the bus drivers ready.
It's going to make refuelling a nightmare if the hydrant pot's cant be reached.
Some remote stands are being split into 2's for 757's 767's etc etc.
Better make sure they have the bus drivers ready.
It's going to make refuelling a nightmare if the hydrant pot's cant be reached.
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I presume you are refering to available seats, as against movements?
I understand that the increase in movements will not be nearly as high - but still reasonable.
Scottie Dog
I presume you are refering to available seats, as against movements?
I understand that the increase in movements will not be nearly as high - but still reasonable.
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I have been told that the approximate 12% increase is in aircraft movements and departure slots.
Also Easy are not bothering taking up the offered slots??? what ever this means.
Also Easy are not bothering taking up the offered slots??? what ever this means.
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Summer 05 Movements
Now that I am home and have a chance to look at figures I see that the latest suggestions are of an increase in movements of between 6-7% and an increase in available seats of approximately 13%. Certainly any talk of 12% is a wild exaggeration, although the initial application for slots did peak at 34% over last summer.
These figures do of course change on an almost daily basis as airlines/tour operators adjust schedules according to the whims of the travelling public.
EGCC4284 - easyJet have been off the table, certainly for the summer, since around mid-December. Now this coming winter might be a whole new kettle of fish (and that is pure speculation before the rumours start again).
These figures do of course change on an almost daily basis as airlines/tour operators adjust schedules according to the whims of the travelling public.
EGCC4284 - easyJet have been off the table, certainly for the summer, since around mid-December. Now this coming winter might be a whole new kettle of fish (and that is pure speculation before the rumours start again).
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Typical pax numbers in summer out of MAN = 2m, with a 50/50 spilt between charter and sched.
They'll be doing bloody well just to keep the charter numbers on a par with last year and if anything the switch from charter to loco on the thickest routes (AGP, ALC, FAO) is likely to see a big drop. Just look at the LGW charter numbers over the last 18 months - a good barrometer of what is to come at MAN as the loco business gains momentum at LPL, MAN, LBA and DSA.
So if no growth on the charter side, to get a 13% increase overall, really means they need to grow the 1m scheduled base by about 250,000 - 300,000 passengers a month. Sounds a tall order to me.
loco
They'll be doing bloody well just to keep the charter numbers on a par with last year and if anything the switch from charter to loco on the thickest routes (AGP, ALC, FAO) is likely to see a big drop. Just look at the LGW charter numbers over the last 18 months - a good barrometer of what is to come at MAN as the loco business gains momentum at LPL, MAN, LBA and DSA.
So if no growth on the charter side, to get a 13% increase overall, really means they need to grow the 1m scheduled base by about 250,000 - 300,000 passengers a month. Sounds a tall order to me.
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Just seen a notification from Continental to Cargo agentsthat their two flights to Newark wont be 757's now but a 767 and a 757 giving a greater capacity then expected.
'Continental Airlines Cargo are pleased to announce that our widebody capacity will be retained from Manchester during 2005 and we are set to increase our direct online flights to 14 times weekly from Manchester to Newark to the following schedule:
MAN/EWR CO 021 B767-200 ETD 0930 ETA 1205Hrs Daily
MAN/EWR CO 101 B757 ETD 1330 ETA 1605Hrs Daily effective 10th June '
'Continental Airlines Cargo are pleased to announce that our widebody capacity will be retained from Manchester during 2005 and we are set to increase our direct online flights to 14 times weekly from Manchester to Newark to the following schedule:
MAN/EWR CO 021 B767-200 ETD 0930 ETA 1205Hrs Daily
MAN/EWR CO 101 B757 ETD 1330 ETA 1605Hrs Daily effective 10th June '
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March Passenger Figures
MAplc have just released their passenger figures for March 2005.
Terminal passengers were as follows:
Domestic - 297,977 +4.3%
Scheduled International - 792,770 +15.1%
Charter - 506,730 +12.5%
Private/Mscellaneous - 615 +17.8%
Total - 1,598,092 +12.1%
Remember that Easter came early this year, so some of the figures will be distorted.
When/if I receive figures for movements they will be posted.
Scottie Dog
ps - interesting to see that BAA is quoted in the Daily Telegraph as announcing a 9.1% increase for Stansted and 15.4% for Gatwick.
Terminal passengers were as follows:
Domestic - 297,977 +4.3%
Scheduled International - 792,770 +15.1%
Charter - 506,730 +12.5%
Private/Mscellaneous - 615 +17.8%
Total - 1,598,092 +12.1%
Remember that Easter came early this year, so some of the figures will be distorted.
When/if I receive figures for movements they will be posted.
Scottie Dog
ps - interesting to see that BAA is quoted in the Daily Telegraph as announcing a 9.1% increase for Stansted and 15.4% for Gatwick.
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Airport Update
Not seen it reported on here but both ZOOM and Skyservice will adding extra flights this summer. ZOOM will go from 4 to 5 departures a week with an additional Calgary service on a Thurs.
Skyservice will Operate a Friday flight to Toronto.
Swiss will upgrade capacity on all ZRH flights and replace the E145's with RJ's .
Finally anybody heard about a new start up airline call Horizon Airways ? Apparently they plan to base two A320's operating to various bucket and spade places from mid July !
brgds
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Skyservice will Operate a Friday flight to Toronto.
Swiss will upgrade capacity on all ZRH flights and replace the E145's with RJ's .
Finally anybody heard about a new start up airline call Horizon Airways ? Apparently they plan to base two A320's operating to various bucket and spade places from mid July !
brgds
TCM