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[irishcc]

During peak summer am sure Travel City Direct will be using the Air Atlanta Europe 747s to SFB also.

[GrahamK]

So are Monarch basing an a/c at NCL then?

[crewboi83]

Monarch dont have a base in NCL its all W patterns
The MON NCL-ALC flight is a MAN based A320 and the SFB positions up from MAN in the morning and back to MAN the following morning.

[CentreFix25]

So are Monarch basing an a/c at NCL then?

Think he is talking about next Summer.

MYT are reducing a/c to one A320

The Airtours Summer'05 brochure has 2 based aircraft. I don't understand the logic of reducing to 1 based aircraft when they are selling holidays enough for 2 aircraft. Subbing out 1 aircraft worth of flying seems strange, where's the saving?, they might as well close the base have bigger savings and sub out the whole lot. Wait and see, might have a based JKK!

BAL has two 757's during the week, one goes to Gatwick over the weekend!

Spot on, one aircraft dissapears Thursday Evening/Friday Morning and returns for Monday flying.

might not see a TCX A330

Same as this year, TCX A330 Thursday to SFB then Friday to POP (think thats the correct code!) MON A330 to SFB on Saturdays and the extra one FCA B763 Sunday.

TCX are not ops the NCL-SSH but BY will be doing it on the 757

Thomas Cook Summer'05 contradicts you. Prehaps BY doing the Winter and TCX doing the Summer?

I wouldnt b suprised to see Air 2000 (FCA) back anytime soon

Same as last year, nothing based - only extra is the SFB.

[HH6702]

BY and MYT at NCL summer 2005

Where are you getting this information from about BY and MYT

When looking on the website at the flights they would still need two aircraft.

Or do you know which routes are going to be W's

[johnwalton]

Looking at the Thomson Summer Sun 05 brochure the following weekend flights are non-based:

FRI Corfu
dep NCL 1600
arr NCL 1430

SUN Alicante
dep NCL 1630
arr NCL 1500

There does seem to be an inconsistency in the brochure though as on Friday evenings there is a requirement for 2 based aircraft,

FRI Bourgas
dep NCL 1930
arr NCL 0355 +1

FRI Ibiza
dep NCL 2355
arr NCL 0620 +1

Unless one of these flights is going to operated by the MME based unit?


As far as I can see the MYT flights look like this:

Majorca
Sat 0730 Sat 1400
Sat 1545 Sat 2215
Tue 1335 Wed 1955

Menorca
Sat 0700 Sat 1320

Costa Brava [Gerona]
Sat 1815 Sat 1715
(non-based)

Costa Dorada [Reus]
Sun 0945 Sun 1550

Ibiza
Sun 1900 Sun 2000

Tenerife
Tue 0840 Tue 1830
Fri 1905 Fri 0355

Gran Canaria
Sat 2205 Sun 0815

Fuerteventura
Wed 0700 Wed 1640

Lanzarote
Thu 1555 Fri 0140

Malaga
Sat 1420 Sat 2105
Tue 0820 Tue 1500

Alicante
Sun 0700 Sun 1400
Thu 0525 Thu 1225

Larnaca - op BY

Paphos
Wed 1755 Thu 0430

Faro - op JKK

Malta
Tue 1715 Wed 0120

Bodrum
Mon 1700 Tue 0235

Tunisia
Sun 1700 Mon 0105

Corfu
Mon 0725 Mon 1540

Crete
Tue 0635 Tue 1610

Zakynthos
Thu 1335 Thu 2205

Dalaman
Mon 0600 Mon 1545

Rhodes - op BY

Kos
Thu 0905 Thu 1825

but that info is from the Airtours brochure which tends to differ somewhat from what actually occurs. Seems like a similar programme to this summer though.

[JKP505]

As I stated before there WILL be two MyTravel aircraft at NCL, an A320 and an A321. There are at least 26 confirmed flights by MYT out of NCL that follow a based a/c pattern and a couple of 'W' patterns on that. I assume that the powers that be at MYT are waiting to see where they have demand for flights before adding freq. A very shrewd move in my opinion.

I don't know if any other people have noticed, but the locals seem to prefer destinations in Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey to Spain. Outside London and Manchester, nowhere has, or will have more flights to Greece and Bulgaria than NCL. I think the snap sale of flights to Egypt show a slightly different market than anywhere else in the UK, where Spain is still the tried and trusted. Possibly the only country that is behind the market in the North East is Italy, yet there will be a marked increase in services in 2005.

As it is (or should be) common knowledge that one a/c cannot handle 26 rotations, I don't know where some people work out the scheduling. The (VERY) maximum one a/c could do from NCL, when taking into account longer range Turkey / Greece / Cyprus / Canaries flights is 17 rotations. So that leaves nine to be served without a based aircraft? I don't think so...

Monarch are still keen, even more so considering the collapse of Golden Sun Holidays, given that the tour operator had a relitavely substantial programme from NCL.

Not sure about Britannia's intentions though, I heard that the destinations I mentioned earlier were cast iron, however, their schedule does look different. I wouldn't be suprised if they keep the aircraft intended for LGW at NCL. It would be foolish in the least to remove an a/c from a regional base at probably the most optimum period in a week for filling an aircraft.

I think the 2006 season will see First Choice Airways base or part base an a/c, as the Thomas Cook group apparrently feel they can fill most of their capacity from their own brands. But I do not expect to see FCA at NCL in 2005.

[Jamesair]

I read an article on Emirates in The Times Business Travel supplement this week which said that they are to announce another UK destination very soon....could this be the rumoured NCL service?

Where does the BFS - EWR announcement leave NCL with Continental?

[johnwalton]

I read that and thought the same thing,

Business travel to the Middle East, and to Dubai in particular, is going through the roof. Emirates now runs 11 flights a day out of Heathrow, Gatwick, Birmingham, Manchester and Glasgow and will soon announce expansion for next year, which may include another departure aiport.

http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/arti...290466,00.html


Who would be the other contenders? Surely no Edinburgh with the Glasgow service, nor Bristol or NEMA with the Birmingham service... any ideas?

[jabird]

Surely no Edinburgh with the Glasgow service, nor Bristol or NEMA with the Birmingham service... any ideas?

How much will EK follow CO's pattern? They launched EDI before BRS and BFS, and NCL hasn't got a CO route yet, so wouldn't EDI be more likely? Just how soon is this announcement going to be made - mentions were made about the upcoming Business Travel Ex @ the NEC?

[Jamesair]

I hope you are wrong about Edinburgh and that NCL gets its first truly international scheduled route.

Emirates, or at least Emirates Chief will be familiar with Newcastle because of regular visits by the Dubai Air Wing.

Continental....we will just have to wait and see.

On more mundane expansion matters I have heard rumours of Air Southwest doing a Newquay - NCL - Aberdeen route and EUJet serving Newcastle from Shannon and/or Manston.

[FinalsToLand]

Sharky12T,

As for FlyBe that's the first i've heard of it and we handle them aswell, I despatched 2 Belfast flights yesterday, one of them in 12 minutes block to block.

U cudnt even spin a cherokee in 12 minutes never mind a dash 8!

15 mins and 21 mins if i remember correctly.

F.T.L

[Jamesair]

Another thread on PPrune seems to be suggesting that Belfast Int. will be the next UK point on the Emerates network. I hope that Newcastle is still in with a chance, bearing in mind the subsidies that BFS can offer them (as per Continental)

[HiSpeedTape]

edited for personal abuse.. H

[Kev 1]

Think HiSpeedTape should take a long walk of a short pier

[PapaRomeo]

FTL - i dont think sharky12t is going to give u a reply on that one!!!!

[Jamesair]

not quite sure what the last few posts have to do with the subject of the thread? maybe they got in here in error.

[HH6702]

Newcastle Next Year

Hi

Where did you read about BY doing Luxor and Pula as you still cant book these flights.

Also Monarch basing at Newcastle with tour operator First Choice and Cosmos using the seats.

When you go onto these operator sites they are still using TCX as the flight codes not MON.

Airtours are going to base just the one aircraft A320 with excel picking up most of the work.

Im not sure if there webside has been updated yet from TBA to which airline it is going to be.

[johnwalton]

When you go onto these operator sites they are still using TCX as the flight codes not MON.

First Choice will be using TCX flights as usual, no sign of a MON based aircraft.

Airtours are going to base just the one aircraft A320 with excel picking up most of the work.

Im not sure if there webside has been updated yet from TBA to which airline it is going to be.

Most of the flights on the website have been updated. Will be 1x Based MYT and 2x XLA aircraft, one of which will operate mostly for MYT. I think MYT are also buying seats on some BY flights (such as Rhodes).


Haven't heard anything about Luxor or Pula.

[Jamesair]

IT charter flights for next summer seem to be much less than this year. Maybe the operators are playing a "wait and see" game.

The Flybe announcement about new routes from Newcastle for next summer should be coming out any time. I understand the new Exeter and Southampton services are performing better than expected with November sales standing at 75% and 80% of capacity