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Old 5th May 2005, 21:16
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The Leeds-Cardiff sectors were supposed to be positioning flights and so as coasting says, any pax carried are indeed a bonus to the Cardiff-Funchal results. Apparently forward bookings ex LBA to Funchal are doing quite well despite very late launch of sales for Summer 2005 from Leeds, and flights over the next few weeks have quite a few more passengers booked than the first departure on 2 May. Looks quite positive.

The interesting thing for Summer 2006 will be to see what appears in the second edition brochures (out nearer August/September) on which the majority of tour operator sales will be based. With the exception of TUI, most seem to have rolled their Summer 2005 programmes forward with little or no change.
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Old 8th May 2005, 11:02
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Firstly Atlantic Holidays are advertising Funchal for summer 06 which is good news for LBA and Astraeus.....keep up the good work JH!

So, to keep in line with the thread topic:

Summer 2005 look set to be another record with increased passenger numbers.

What is the way forward for LBA?

How can it expand ferther within its budget constraints and continue to increase the services and choice from within this region?

What short term measures can be put in place to act as a catalyst to ferther growth?
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Old 8th May 2005, 11:05
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Great news if it happens again next year

What I would like to see next year, is a 2nd based AEU machine, operating to the Greek Islands such as Kos,Zante,Crete, etc etc, and maybe other places in Eastern Europe on behalf of smaller tour operators, and of course, the bigger boys can have seats if they want on it.

I think we will see major Jet2 expansion for next year, as well as hopefully French routes from FlyBe.

LBA is going to grow and grow.
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Old 9th May 2005, 13:03
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Dont know if it wud be possible, but id love to see maybe some routes to Egypt... SSH / TCP maybe. As I say dont know if it would be possible from LBA, but surely it would be a big hit. Maybe something else for AEU to consider for next year.
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Old 9th May 2005, 14:16
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I cant see why it would be possible, LCA and PFO are only a bit shorter distance and they have been fine.

I agree, Egypt is somewhere that more and more regional airports are getting flights to, I think an AEU 73G would be best suited to the route.

Sorry, meant to write, I cant see why it wouldnt
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Old 9th May 2005, 18:03
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Also heard another rumour from someone who works at the airport... not really sure what to make of it to be honest, but here goes (dont laugh).

Jet2 to start New York flights using 757, with outbound crew positioning back on inbound flight and inbound crew positioning out on outbound flight.

Suppose it could work but surely it would be a brave move by Jet2, anybody got any thoughts.
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Old 9th May 2005, 19:18
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Would be an incredibly brave move, couldnt see it happening to be honest, I imagine the 757 would have problems getting their direct as well.
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Old 9th May 2005, 19:41
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Well 757s are flying direct BRS-EWR nonstop and BRS has a shorter runway than LBA so I dont see why not?
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Old 9th May 2005, 19:59
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LBA much higher, affects the distance an a/c can fly direct.
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Old 9th May 2005, 20:36
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Not realy Bristol Lulsgate 620 feet amsl
Leeds Bradford 681 Feet amsl
can`t see that 51 feet is going to have much effect on performance

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Old 9th May 2005, 20:55
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Ditto G-IB, I can't see that the 61ft AMSL difference between LBA and Bristol will have the slightest effect on the performance. This is especially the case with a 757 with 175 seats; you'll be on a fuel load of approx 28 tonnes (7 hour flight x 3 tonnes plus 7 tonnes reserves), APS weight of 54t and payload of around 20t inc cargo so take-off weight of 98 tonnes. That's well within the 757 performance ex Leeds or Bristol even with some runway obstacle restrictions. The structural max for the Continental aircraft is 115t.

As far as AEU's Summer 06 programme goes, the 737-300 will not hack LBA (or anywhere in the UK) to Taba or Sharm el Sheikh. You need the 737-700 to do this. Cyprus is about the limit and the -300 will not go further than this without severe payload restrictions; and after that, you run into trouble by not being physically able to get enough fuel into the tanks.

If Astraeus are looking to go to Egypt etc, they will need the 737-700 into Leeds, and I think their two remaining 737-700s seem to be well employed at Manchester. Unless there is some fundamental change in that position, I wouldn't hold your breath on that front.

Greece is a different matter. I don't see why more flights to Greece would need another based aircraft; all they need to do follow Thomson's lead and cut out the W patterns. The Tuesday w pattern EMA-Palma could go and be replaced by a Greek flight as it's a good day for Kefallinia or Heraklion; Wednesday is a quiet day on their programme this year and it's one of the key days for Rhodes and Kos; and on Thursdays, the aircraft does a W pattern LPL-Faro which could be replaced by a Salonika or Zakynthos as it's the key changeover day for those points. If you were prepared to chop the W patterns, it would be quite easy to fit in three rotations a week from LBA to Greece using the same based aircraft. Let's wait and see.
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Old 9th May 2005, 21:00
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A 73G has been used from LBA so far this year. Believe we have had both G-STRF and G-STRH.
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Old 9th May 2005, 21:26
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AEU 737-700

The -700 should be leaving LBA tomorrow, and then be replaced by a -300 which is expected to be the new aircraft from NZ, GSTRJ.

As regards 757's operating to New York for Jet 2. Can't see it really, but that's not to say they can't. Oddysey International used to fly LBA - Toronto in a Y209 config with no problem, and Nationair also in a Y219 config.
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What if Jet2 went to NYC via Edinburgh maybe, they have crew based there dont they? Would love to see more Greek flights from LBA, only problem with AEU this summer is that the a/c goes to MAN to operate to Bergamo on Wednesdays from June. Rumour keeps going round AEU that we may get 757 at Leeds next summer??? Would be good if we could, and winter also looks promising as the flying programme has almost been finalised to see a year round a/c based at LBA.

Good on you AEU!!!
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Old 10th May 2005, 13:59
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Was G-STRJ not mooted to be the second one for the Flybe ops or has that changed?
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Old 10th May 2005, 14:11
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No its definitely coming to Leeds as of Thursday. Has been in Southend apparently being fitted out.
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Old 10th May 2005, 14:45
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All this talk about new routes, the airport has difficulty dealing with the aircraft already at LBA maybe they should address this problem first instead of pretending to be a so called international airport
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Old 10th May 2005, 17:52
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What? How can an airport with flights all over europe not be international?

Really dont know what your on about..
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Old 11th May 2005, 06:53
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International?

I agree LBA, but what I think ciampino was actually meaning to say was that LBA is a'tin-ternational' airport, not an international one!!
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Old 11th May 2005, 11:18
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Question Jet2 Booking

Not sure if this is the right area,
but anyone know about booking on jet2, is it a case of early bird catches the worm, or do they release a batch of cheaper tickets nearer the time? (Specifically Faro)
Please PM if you don't want the topic taking up space,
Cheers
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