Ryanair/Easyjet expansion Ltn - Merged.
The airport must have run out of overnight stands now with this latest announcement due today. With any new stands needing planning permission the full notices will be going up soon. I guess that any BBJ operator looking to night stop might now be turned away.
I wonder if easyjet caught wind of what was going on and pledged three new aircraft to LTN weeks ago thus stopping FR basing seven aircraft at the airport.
TBI have been caught napping and need to spend some money now!
I wonder if easyjet caught wind of what was going on and pledged three new aircraft to LTN weeks ago thus stopping FR basing seven aircraft at the airport.
TBI have been caught napping and need to spend some money now!
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Well according to Ryanair on line booking the Bergamo flights will orginate from Luton with a 06:30 dep and the Dublin service reduces to 4 return flights per day from 5, but if a 737-800 is used there are actually 200 more seat available. Dublin has an earlier morning departure and a later arrival back in the evening.
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Buster, it does look that way. The Dublin flights reduce to 4 x daily from 1 Nov, whilst the early Bergamo flight which originates in LTN starts 19 Jan 05. The second Bergamo flight seems to say the same, ie originating in BGY for the winter period.
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News Release
22.07.04
RYANAIR ANNOUNCES $240M INVESTMENT IN LUTON BASE
9 NEW EUROPEAN LOW FARE ROUTES WITH 250,000 SEATS FROM JUST £1 !
Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 low fares airline, today (22nd July 2004) announced a major expansion of its London Luton base with an investment of $240 M in 4 new Boeing 737-800 series aircraft and 9 NEW European routes from London Luton to:
BARCELONA (GIRONA) ESBJERG ROME
BARCELONA (REUS) MURCIA STOCKHOLM
DINARD NIMES VENICE
Ryanair, which began services at London Luton in 1986, already operates 14 daily international flights from Luton to Dublin and Milan, and this year will carry 1.6M passengers to/from Luton, saving consumers over £60M on high fares charged by Easyjet. This massive increase in routes, destinations and passenger numbers is also good news for the local economy too, because it will create and sustain over 1000 new jobs in the Luton area
Announcing this expansion of its Luton base today, Ryanair’s CEO Michael O’Leary said:
"Consumers using London Luton airport now have a real low fares airline offering fares that are half the price of Easyjet, serving 11 destinations throughout Europe and delivering unbeatable punctuality, and that’s Ryanair.
Our message to Easyjet is simple:
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s low fares
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s punctuality
These new routes, with fares from an incredible £1 (excl. taxes) are available for booking right now, at www.ryanair.com, Europe’s biggest travel website.”
RYANAIR EASYJET
PUNCTUALITY 2003* 81% 68%
AVERAGE FARE** €40 €62
*SOURCE – OFFICIAL CAA STATS FOR 2003
** ANNUAL PUBLISHED ACCOUNTS
22.07.04
RYANAIR ANNOUNCES $240M INVESTMENT IN LUTON BASE
9 NEW EUROPEAN LOW FARE ROUTES WITH 250,000 SEATS FROM JUST £1 !
Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 low fares airline, today (22nd July 2004) announced a major expansion of its London Luton base with an investment of $240 M in 4 new Boeing 737-800 series aircraft and 9 NEW European routes from London Luton to:
BARCELONA (GIRONA) ESBJERG ROME
BARCELONA (REUS) MURCIA STOCKHOLM
DINARD NIMES VENICE
Ryanair, which began services at London Luton in 1986, already operates 14 daily international flights from Luton to Dublin and Milan, and this year will carry 1.6M passengers to/from Luton, saving consumers over £60M on high fares charged by Easyjet. This massive increase in routes, destinations and passenger numbers is also good news for the local economy too, because it will create and sustain over 1000 new jobs in the Luton area
Announcing this expansion of its Luton base today, Ryanair’s CEO Michael O’Leary said:
"Consumers using London Luton airport now have a real low fares airline offering fares that are half the price of Easyjet, serving 11 destinations throughout Europe and delivering unbeatable punctuality, and that’s Ryanair.
Our message to Easyjet is simple:
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s low fares
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s punctuality
These new routes, with fares from an incredible £1 (excl. taxes) are available for booking right now, at www.ryanair.com, Europe’s biggest travel website.”
RYANAIR EASYJET
PUNCTUALITY 2003* 81% 68%
AVERAGE FARE** €40 €62
*SOURCE – OFFICIAL CAA STATS FOR 2003
** ANNUAL PUBLISHED ACCOUNTS
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RYANAIR ANNOUNCES $240M INVESTMENT IN LUTON BASE
9 NEW EUROPEAN LOW FARE ROUTES WITH 250,000 SEATS FROM JUST £1 !
Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 low fares airline, today (22nd July 2004) announced a major expansion of its London Luton base with an investment of $240 M in 4 new Boeing 737-800 series aircraft and 9 NEW European routes from London Luton to:
BARCELONA (GIRONA) ESBJERG ROME
BARCELONA (REUS) MURCIA STOCKHOLM
DINARD NIMES VENICE
Ryanair, which began services at London Luton in 1986, already operates 14 daily international flights from Luton to Dublin and Milan, and this year will carry 1.6M passengers to/from Luton, saving consumers over £60M on high fares charged by Easyjet. This massive increase in routes, destinations and passenger numbers is also good news for the local economy too, because it will create and sustain over 1000 new jobs in the Luton area
Announcing this expansion of its Luton base today, Ryanair’s CEO Michael O’Leary said:
"Consumers using London Luton airport now have a real low fares airline offering fares that are half the price of Easyjet, serving 11 destinations throughout Europe and delivering unbeatable punctuality, and that’s Ryanair.
Our message to Easyjet is simple:
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s low fares
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s punctuality
These new routes, with fares from an incredible £1 (excl. taxes) are available for booking right now, at www.ryanair.com, Europe’s biggest travel website.”
RYANAIR EASYJET
PUNCTUALITY 2003* 81% 68%
AVERAGE FARE** €40 €62
*SOURCE – OFFICIAL CAA STATS FOR 2003
** ANNUAL PUBLISHED ACCOUNTS
9 NEW EUROPEAN LOW FARE ROUTES WITH 250,000 SEATS FROM JUST £1 !
Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 low fares airline, today (22nd July 2004) announced a major expansion of its London Luton base with an investment of $240 M in 4 new Boeing 737-800 series aircraft and 9 NEW European routes from London Luton to:
BARCELONA (GIRONA) ESBJERG ROME
BARCELONA (REUS) MURCIA STOCKHOLM
DINARD NIMES VENICE
Ryanair, which began services at London Luton in 1986, already operates 14 daily international flights from Luton to Dublin and Milan, and this year will carry 1.6M passengers to/from Luton, saving consumers over £60M on high fares charged by Easyjet. This massive increase in routes, destinations and passenger numbers is also good news for the local economy too, because it will create and sustain over 1000 new jobs in the Luton area
Announcing this expansion of its Luton base today, Ryanair’s CEO Michael O’Leary said:
"Consumers using London Luton airport now have a real low fares airline offering fares that are half the price of Easyjet, serving 11 destinations throughout Europe and delivering unbeatable punctuality, and that’s Ryanair.
Our message to Easyjet is simple:
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s low fares
Easyjet can’t match Ryanair’s punctuality
These new routes, with fares from an incredible £1 (excl. taxes) are available for booking right now, at www.ryanair.com, Europe’s biggest travel website.”
RYANAIR EASYJET
PUNCTUALITY 2003* 81% 68%
AVERAGE FARE** €40 €62
*SOURCE – OFFICIAL CAA STATS FOR 2003
** ANNUAL PUBLISHED ACCOUNTS
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Me thinks that what we are seeing here are signs of serious tension between BAA and Ryanair. Please remember that BAA has by far the deeper pocket. They do not need Ryanair but Ryanair need Stansted. Strength always wins in situations like this.
This is also an indication of just how bitter the senseless pricewar between the low cost carriers is going to become. I am thankful that I do not own shares in Ryanair. Any such shares look as if they are to become worthless.
When a substantal business like Ryanair is not paying its bills you have got to get cautious.
Watch this space. The wimnter of 2004/5 will provide bankrupticies among the low cost airlines. Ryanair is starting to look very vulnerable.
This is also an indication of just how bitter the senseless pricewar between the low cost carriers is going to become. I am thankful that I do not own shares in Ryanair. Any such shares look as if they are to become worthless.
When a substantal business like Ryanair is not paying its bills you have got to get cautious.
Watch this space. The wimnter of 2004/5 will provide bankrupticies among the low cost airlines. Ryanair is starting to look very vulnerable.
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FR are very clever at everything they do. Never underestimate them. They are canny people. MOL didn't get rich by playing the soft game - he and his team play hard ball. With a balance sheet and a cost base like Ryanair's - it's the others who should watch out.
As for taking on BAA, then good - if only they would/could work in concert with VS, LH, UA and BM at LHR to reduce the high capital charges that BAA impose on all airlines.
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FR are very clever at everything they do. Never underestimate them. They are canny people. MOL didn't get rich by playing the soft game - he and his team play hard ball. With a balance sheet and a cost base like Ryanair's - it's the others who should watch out.
As for taking on BAA, then good - if only they would/could work in concert with VS, LH, UA and BM at LHR to reduce the high capital charges that BAA impose on all airlines.
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A little puzzled by MO'L's arithmetic. His press release claims RYR's fares are "half the price of Easyjet" but from the table later in the same release, RYR's average yield is EUR40 against EUR62 for EZY. I mean, if you're going to be economical with the truth wouldn't you at least try to be consistent within the same release? 
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I think you have mentioned something quite important there TS, regarding what BAA charge and its service levels to its "customers". High landing fees, nice profit and more interest in gaining retail outlets. I understand a business is there to make money, but I personally think they give nothing back to the airlines. There "customers"!!
This situation with Ryanair will be a very interesting one to watch.
This situation with Ryanair will be a very interesting one to watch.
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One of Ryanair's trademarks is their ability to be "economical with the truth" when it comes to statistics, even their tag-line on their website says: "50% cheaper than easyJet". As you say that doesn't strictly tie in with their own data which would infer that they are 35% cheaper than easyJet. However, they could (and in other places have) turned it around and said that easyJet are 50% more expensive than Ryanair. Which I believe is right, in fact it's 55%. (So long as I've done the right calculations in Excel).
Anyway the last two days could be another defining period for UK LCCs when easyJet and Ryanair push their Luton presence to the point when the airport infrastructure may start to be a limit and passenger loyalty may be stretched and when bmi baby decide to cannibalise their NEMA market by developing BHX as a base. Is there really enough new demand to go around?
One of Ryanair's trademarks is their ability to be "economical with the truth" when it comes to statistics, even their tag-line on their website says: "50% cheaper than easyJet". As you say that doesn't strictly tie in with their own data which would infer that they are 35% cheaper than easyJet. However, they could (and in other places have) turned it around and said that easyJet are 50% more expensive than Ryanair. Which I believe is right, in fact it's 55%. (So long as I've done the right calculations in Excel).
Anyway the last two days could be another defining period for UK LCCs when easyJet and Ryanair push their Luton presence to the point when the airport infrastructure may start to be a limit and passenger loyalty may be stretched and when bmi baby decide to cannibalise their NEMA market by developing BHX as a base. Is there really enough new demand to go around?
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The determing limitations on capacity will probably be:
Stands
Gates
Runway at peak - No parallel taxiway/RET combination - slots
NATS and airspace
Cash
If you go back to 1998 before Buster's "Tinminal" was opened over 5m pax went though a terminal designed for half that number. Remember how bad things were then. Luton's passenger/customer base has changed since then surely(?). Will they accept the overcrowding unless they open the first floor of said "Tinminal".
In addition, Luton Borough Council will be dancing around the town hall with all that extra concession fee money they will make.
I guess TBI be looking very carefully at these new opportunities before they commit to anything.
Stands
Gates
Runway at peak - No parallel taxiway/RET combination - slots
NATS and airspace
Cash
If you go back to 1998 before Buster's "Tinminal" was opened over 5m pax went though a terminal designed for half that number. Remember how bad things were then. Luton's passenger/customer base has changed since then surely(?). Will they accept the overcrowding unless they open the first floor of said "Tinminal".
In addition, Luton Borough Council will be dancing around the town hall with all that extra concession fee money they will make.
I guess TBI be looking very carefully at these new opportunities before they commit to anything.
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Commitment by TBI
Given the statement by the airport on their Website, I would guess that they are delighted with all the new business.
Bearing in mind their previous statements about investing in new infrastructure when the business is there I would expect to see the first floor of the "Tinminal" opened and an additional "6-pack" of stands built. Watch this space!
Bearing in mind their previous statements about investing in new infrastructure when the business is there I would expect to see the first floor of the "Tinminal" opened and an additional "6-pack" of stands built. Watch this space!
From January Ryanair will have 32 movements a day out of LTN.
The good news is that Luton already has planning permission for a new immigration hall and a continuation of the existing walkway to the northern and eastern aprons. The first floor only needs fitting out and a staircase and lifts putting in. The new airport dual carriageway will be started next year.
The bad news is that no planning application has gone in yet for a new apron or a full length parallel taxiways although I have heard that the airport might use the cargo apron for additional stands in the short term. The baggage reclaim area is already over crowded with no improvement in sight. Car parking is an issue particularly with half of the existing mid term car park set to become a dual carriageway although a new site has been identified. The central area is congested with no simple solution.
The good news is that Luton already has planning permission for a new immigration hall and a continuation of the existing walkway to the northern and eastern aprons. The first floor only needs fitting out and a staircase and lifts putting in. The new airport dual carriageway will be started next year.
The bad news is that no planning application has gone in yet for a new apron or a full length parallel taxiways although I have heard that the airport might use the cargo apron for additional stands in the short term. The baggage reclaim area is already over crowded with no improvement in sight. Car parking is an issue particularly with half of the existing mid term car park set to become a dual carriageway although a new site has been identified. The central area is congested with no simple solution.
Last edited by LTNman; 22nd Jul 2004 at 16:17.