BMI baby in major Birmingham expansion

[egnxema]

Your imagination, however over or under active, makes interesting reading!

[ALLMCC]

Jobs

What you say might not be too far from the truth - seem to recall a statement Flybe issued to a local travel trade rag a few months ago stating that they were evaluating new routes from BHD to MAN, MME & either Norwich or Cambridge and said details would follow later.

However, developing the debate further, if baby decide to include BFS in their routes to be announced from BHX next week, surely this will bring them into a head to head situation with Flybe on their BHD - BHX which apparently is one of busiest sectors in their network.

The plot thickens eh!

[alterego]

I think you all could be getting ahead of yourselves a bit too much.

I don't have the inside knowledge but I do know that the current command upgrade positions are Man, Mme and I guess that Bhx is now in the running.

Of course we all know that the Virgin merger hasn't been mentioned this week!

Time will tell.

[MarkD]

Mainline BMI traffic from MAN to ORK and other points in Ireland would be welcome for connections to BMs longhaul (say to CYYZ) since Baby doesn't transfer bags

[karnak]

bmibaby BHX

This does make very interesting reading - why are people threatened by this????? The routes will be out this week then what next have you heard about the transatlantic low frills flights originating in Germany with a UK stop ?????German wings + Baby?????

[Ian Farquharson]

First lot of routes to go on sale tomorrow at 11.00am !

Ian

[JAMESBUK]

routes from bhx with bmibaby

Any idea what routes BMI BABY will run out of BHX?

[EGAC_Ramper]

Though with regards to BHD-MAN route did the Chief of BMI not also state they were looking into flying the route too?? I'm sure I read it somewhere.Did read about Norwich,Cambridge and MAN with FlyBE out of BHD too.If BMI Baby do fly BHX-BFS then that would be a kick in the plums for FlyBE with BHX-BHD.Will be interested to see the routes announced and this post certainly makes interesting reading!!


Regards

[Barbara Cassani]

It's no secret Flybe want to dominate the domestic market and that is the top and bottom of it! Bishop and French are best of buddies and have always respected each others teritory. Flybe want a grip of Manchester and the agreement with regards to BHX allows them in. Flybe have no future with the long routes, their niche is high frequencies in the domestic market. They know they can push easy jet out without too much trouble, BA are just about gone and BMI are rubbing their hands together with glee. Flybe are close to securing LHR slots as part of BAA's reveiw over domestic operations and that will end any future competition in the domestic department. The baby and Easy will then battle the Med routes and that will just about conclude the battle of the LCC's.

[CentreFix25]

Flybe are close to securing LHR slots

So where are they going to fly to from LHR without standing on BMIs toes.

[EGAC_Ramper]

Did FlyBE not too long ago sell their slots for LHR?? Figure in the region of £5m.

[colegate]

Barbara Cassani, or whoever you are. I do not believe you. It is perfectly obvious that bmi see Manchester as being very important to their future. Second, there can be no agreemnet between air,ines to share or not share any markets without EU approval. If there is an agreement between bmi and flybe without EU approval it is blatantly illegal.

[GK430]

You'll find out the routes very soon.
Can't believe a few noses won't be put out when you do.

Just how many bums on seats can you sell to

[mmeteesside]

Very soon indeed, only another 6 minutes!

[egnxema]

BHX WW Destinations

ALC
AMS
BFS
EDI
GVA
NOC
AGP
PMI
PRG

All the normal.

Surely the NOC and BFS must indicate some swap of routes from Mylite?

e

[jmc757]

MyTravelLite have already dropped BFS from start of winter, but no word on NOC, always been a good route for them. But can it support 2 operators with large(ish) aircraft?

Good to see competition back on AMS...

[ALLMCC]

After all the fanfare the launch from BHX seems to be a bit of a damp squib - website states flights can be booked - not so.

Also timetables have not been loaded - surely they could have made sure everything was properly set up before release!

[stalling attitude]

cant help feeling that there will be some serious money lost by some of the loco's this next 12 months. Every airport pretty much has one all offering much the same destinations , the yields have got to be getting lower by the day.

[GK430]

So who are the winners now?

ALC- Most charter ops on route already
AMS - KLM
BFS - FlyBe to BHD
EDI - BACX/FlyBe
GVA
NOC - VZ
AGP - Most charter ops
PMI - Most charter ops
PRG - CSA are doing twice daily already.

Oh well, time will tell....................

[ALLMCC]

Can't imagine BFS & EDI will cause the folk at Flybe many sleepless nights! Baby proposing 2x weekdays against Flybe 7x weekdays on BFS and similar to EDI against 6x weekdays. Reportedly BHX - BHD and EDI are two of the best performing routes in Flybes' network and no doubt they will do whatever is necessary to maintain their strength on these routes.

Others have tried and failed to BFS (Maersk ok timings/high fares & My TravelLite mostly ok fares/rubbish timings). Also Baby will be competing against BACX to EDI. They will have their work cut out on these ones!