Bristol to New York?
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Bristol to New York?
Bristol International Airport says it is close to attracting bids from two U.S. airlines to fly direct to New York. The company says it expects both American Airways and Continental to make offers to fly a daily service from Bristol.
Airport aviation development director Tony Hallwood said: "We are bang on target to deliver a scheduled daily service in the summer of 2005."
The news seems to mean the successful conclusion of Project USA, launched with the aim of launching a transatlatic flight from the airport within five years.
Airport aviation development director Tony Hallwood said: "We are bang on target to deliver a scheduled daily service in the summer of 2005."
The news seems to mean the successful conclusion of Project USA, launched with the aim of launching a transatlatic flight from the airport within five years.
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Buster, are you saying both of these are likely to materalise, or that one would be weeded out?
From past form, aren't CO more likely to add BRS to their already extensive UK regional portfolio, or are there other reasons for AA to be more likely?
From past form, aren't CO more likely to add BRS to their already extensive UK regional portfolio, or are there other reasons for AA to be more likely?
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This old PPRuNe thread (link below) about this subject has been resurrected and added to during the past couple of days.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=120362
The Bristol Airport website is still maintaining its old pop-up which seeks to have the local business community come out in support of the initiative to get a BRS-EWR daily flight.
There is no further news about its coming to fruition, either on the airport website or in the local news media as far as I can tell.
The 'experts' in the aforementioned thread suggest that a transatlantic 767 (the likely AA equipment) would be too big for the BRS runway, with a CO 757 more likely.
I don't profess to be an expert. I am just a regular passenger user of the airport and someone who is always keen to see additional services in the south west of Britain as a whole.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=120362
The Bristol Airport website is still maintaining its old pop-up which seeks to have the local business community come out in support of the initiative to get a BRS-EWR daily flight.
There is no further news about its coming to fruition, either on the airport website or in the local news media as far as I can tell.
The 'experts' in the aforementioned thread suggest that a transatlantic 767 (the likely AA equipment) would be too big for the BRS runway, with a CO 757 more likely.
I don't profess to be an expert. I am just a regular passenger user of the airport and someone who is always keen to see additional services in the south west of Britain as a whole.
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Continental are the most likely. Apparently they've suggested a 757 with winglets operating through BRS at approx. 0730-0930. American rumoured to be interested in a Boston service???
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The below press notice now appears on the Bristol Airport website. I tried to post a link to save bandwidth but it only led to the airport home page.
Bristol International is now close to securing a direct daily scheduled service to New York, following visits to the airport by both Continental Airlines and American Airlines.
Each airline toured the airport and viewed the terminal facilities, where they were engaged in top level discussions with Managing Director Andrew Skipp, and Aviation Development Director, Tony Hallwood. Airline representatives were also given the opportunity to meet key business leaders from across the South West.
Andrew Skipp, Managing Director commented:
“Both Continental and American Airlines were impressed by the business community’s support for Project USA, the strength of the South West economy, and the huge leisure opportunities which a New York service will generate.”
Tony Hallwood, Bristol International’s Aviation Development Director added:
“Bristol International is now close to achieving a major milestone in the airport’s history. Throughout the campaign, we have had the backing of many organisations around the region including the South West RDA and South West Tourism, and following nine months of detailed discussions with two major airlines this has clearly had great benefit. We are now confident that a direct New York service from Bristol will be soon a reality.”
Bristol International is now close to securing a direct daily scheduled service to New York, following visits to the airport by both Continental Airlines and American Airlines.
Each airline toured the airport and viewed the terminal facilities, where they were engaged in top level discussions with Managing Director Andrew Skipp, and Aviation Development Director, Tony Hallwood. Airline representatives were also given the opportunity to meet key business leaders from across the South West.
Andrew Skipp, Managing Director commented:
“Both Continental and American Airlines were impressed by the business community’s support for Project USA, the strength of the South West economy, and the huge leisure opportunities which a New York service will generate.”
Tony Hallwood, Bristol International’s Aviation Development Director added:
“Bristol International is now close to achieving a major milestone in the airport’s history. Throughout the campaign, we have had the backing of many organisations around the region including the South West RDA and South West Tourism, and following nine months of detailed discussions with two major airlines this has clearly had great benefit. We are now confident that a direct New York service from Bristol will be soon a reality.”
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Can't imagine thats correct either Merchant Venturer.
The New York route has absolutely nothing to do with Easy jet and they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they tried to prohibit growth by such a major Airline.
I still wonder however how a fully laden B757 is going to make it out of Bristol to New York with the current length of runway at Lulsgate.
The New York route has absolutely nothing to do with Easy jet and they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they tried to prohibit growth by such a major Airline.
I still wonder however how a fully laden B757 is going to make it out of Bristol to New York with the current length of runway at Lulsgate.
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I don't know. My technical knowledge is wanting when it comes to aircraft and runway lengths.
I have expressed doubts both in these forums and in correspondence with the airport (based on BRS's lack of transatlantic charter flights compared to other neighbouring airports). The airport has assured me that a 757 could make New York out of BRS and the runway length would not be an issue.
The fact that CO and AA appear to have gone into an in-depth study suggests that they are confident too. I assume they could easily have detected a runway problem at an early stage and not wasted further time.
I cannot see the runway being extended in the forseeable future, if ever - too political by far and the gain would be limited anyway.
Air 2000 757s have flown regularly non stop to Banjul (an hour or so shorter than New York but in charter configuration with more pax than a sched operator), and this last winter an Astraeus 737-700 did so each week.
If the EWR service does not materialise now the BRS management is going to have a bit of egg on face having gone so confidently public about the chances this week.
I don't know. My technical knowledge is wanting when it comes to aircraft and runway lengths.
I have expressed doubts both in these forums and in correspondence with the airport (based on BRS's lack of transatlantic charter flights compared to other neighbouring airports). The airport has assured me that a 757 could make New York out of BRS and the runway length would not be an issue.
The fact that CO and AA appear to have gone into an in-depth study suggests that they are confident too. I assume they could easily have detected a runway problem at an early stage and not wasted further time.
I cannot see the runway being extended in the forseeable future, if ever - too political by far and the gain would be limited anyway.
Air 2000 757s have flown regularly non stop to Banjul (an hour or so shorter than New York but in charter configuration with more pax than a sched operator), and this last winter an Astraeus 737-700 did so each week.
If the EWR service does not materialise now the BRS management is going to have a bit of egg on face having gone so confidently public about the chances this week.
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I had wondered if they were considering a split flight ie Bristol- Cardiff- New York or Bristol- Glasgow- New York.
When attending a safety seminar at Bristol the A320 pilots out of Bristol said they had difficulties with the length of runway coupled with pressure settings and temperatures hence my scepticism.
For me it is one more movement which all adds to my salary so I would be delighted to see regular Transatlantic flights in this part of the world.
I had wondered if they were considering a split flight ie Bristol- Cardiff- New York or Bristol- Glasgow- New York.
When attending a safety seminar at Bristol the A320 pilots out of Bristol said they had difficulties with the length of runway coupled with pressure settings and temperatures hence my scepticism.
For me it is one more movement which all adds to my salary so I would be delighted to see regular Transatlantic flights in this part of the world.
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Heard a rumour they are hoping to operate a Continental 757 with 18 seats less & Winglets, to enhance performance, off the 2011m runway, this is not a new one it was discussed way back in 2001,as well.
Also A A are taking a look at the place.
I have certainly NOT Heard the Easy jet rumour as mentioned earlier,quit puzzled by it.
Also A A are taking a look at the place.
I have certainly NOT Heard the Easy jet rumour as mentioned earlier,quit puzzled by it.
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Maybe BRS management are thinking that if they allow easyjet to take up to much ramp space with new A/C there wont be space for possibly two 757 operating transatlantic,just a thought!!
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I dont think there is any truth in the EZY rumor. Anyway you don't necessarily need to have an aircraft based at BRS to operate a new route. The last new EZY route released was BRS-SXF with a berlin based aircraft, and the fact that most EZY turnarounds take no more than 30 mins it would be quite easy to slip a new route in and not have to add to ramp congestion.
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Its rumoured BRS will be Easyjets start up base for there airbus fleet so potentially there could be A/C stood on ramps for awhile as the operation gets underway.BRS airport management seem 100% determined to get a transatlantic connection up and running, and who can blame them! As some one commented earlier they have made a big step ahead of other airports in the area and so will want to keep or better their lead . Easyjet are not gonna pack there toys away and leave just cos the airport may not be pandering to ther wants at the moment ,the airport knows this and so can try to attract other carriers to the area BRS airport is not just Easyjet.
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I can't understand the ramp issue.
The main apron is the eastern apron which has sixteen parking stands.
The general aviation apron (the western apron) is being moved across the runway to a new area in the south which has been constructed in the winter. This will free up space on the old GA apron that will almost double the number of parking places for commercial airliners. Indeed, some airliners already use part of this ramp space at times.
The airport management is talking about 4.5 million pax this year and 5.5 million the following year. If this does happen they will clearly need more than the original sixteen stands on the eastern apron, hence the clearing of GA to the southside.
From a pax point of view, the one drawback to all these extra travellers is the terminal. Although only four years old, and a delight to use at off-peak times, it can become very crowded in the busy periods, especially the baggage reclaim areas, and IMO the building is in need of extension, which it was designed to be capable of.
Interesting comment from flower about the 320s. I hadn't heard this. When I have been at the airport I have not noticed them needing markedly more runway to get off the ground than say a 737 on a similar route. 320s have been using Bristol for many years. I shall certainly watch this with great interest when I am next out there. In fact, I am off to Berlin on a 319 next week so will have a grandstand seat.
The main apron is the eastern apron which has sixteen parking stands.
The general aviation apron (the western apron) is being moved across the runway to a new area in the south which has been constructed in the winter. This will free up space on the old GA apron that will almost double the number of parking places for commercial airliners. Indeed, some airliners already use part of this ramp space at times.
The airport management is talking about 4.5 million pax this year and 5.5 million the following year. If this does happen they will clearly need more than the original sixteen stands on the eastern apron, hence the clearing of GA to the southside.
From a pax point of view, the one drawback to all these extra travellers is the terminal. Although only four years old, and a delight to use at off-peak times, it can become very crowded in the busy periods, especially the baggage reclaim areas, and IMO the building is in need of extension, which it was designed to be capable of.
Interesting comment from flower about the 320s. I hadn't heard this. When I have been at the airport I have not noticed them needing markedly more runway to get off the ground than say a 737 on a similar route. 320s have been using Bristol for many years. I shall certainly watch this with great interest when I am next out there. In fact, I am off to Berlin on a 319 next week so will have a grandstand seat.
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Apron parking stands have always been in short supply, recently Bristol Flying Centre have moved to the south side of the airfield, this has freed up room for at least 1 757 size stand (unofficially referred to as stand 23) where BFC used to park their aircraft along with any vistors.
Also due to the changes in the night mail ops there is now enough room to park another 321/757 on the western Apron.
still no Idea what the Easy rumour is about.
Also due to the changes in the night mail ops there is now enough room to park another 321/757 on the western Apron.
still no Idea what the Easy rumour is about.
I doubt if easyJet will turn BRS into an Airbus base as they've only just converted it to 737NGs. There is tons of room to park a few more overnighting 737s now the GA aircraft are South Side. I think BRS management are well aware that their spectacular x million passenger growth is primarily a factor of its easyJet traffic.
BRS runway need not present an unmanageable problem to a 757. There are numerous combinations of engine power and weights that mean that performance problems can be got around 99% of the time. When they can't just bus them to Cardiff once a year.
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BRS runway need not present an unmanageable problem to a 757. There are numerous combinations of engine power and weights that mean that performance problems can be got around 99% of the time. When they can't just bus them to Cardiff once a year.
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