JET2 Consolidating?
the place to be is the city of Leeds.
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I've been right more than i've been wrong, Leeds is a great place to live, the airports in the wrong place, be it weather, road links or catchment area.
If you fly from Leeds every week and live nearby then Donny isn't going to provide what you want, however if you only fly when your off on your jollies, then it doesn't make much difference whether you spend an hour or so going to MAN DSA EMA. You only have to look at the winter skiing program (or lack off) from Leeds to see that Manchester will see passengers move to DSA if they provide the flights and the bulk of these are charter, not Loco.
If your still around (MEFLYBE) in a few years, look back at whats left of flights (charter) from Humberside, i don't think they'll be many. If Humberside had any growth in it the Locos would have moved in by now, it'll be like Exeter, half of b****r all.
Sure Leeds will still be around with the likes of Midland, Eastern and Flybe for the scheduled stuff, i hope JET2 stay, but they must get it right this summer, they have a good product and are well liked by the punters, but these same punter have the memory time span of a gold fish. If you don't believe me then ask some one who only travels on a charter flight once or twice a year, then chances are they won't remember who they flew with.
Thomsonfly are a very big group and will spend a stack putting donny on the map, so mefly, its time for mebed, got a truck to drive in't mornin
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If you fly from Leeds every week and live nearby then Donny isn't going to provide what you want, however if you only fly when your off on your jollies, then it doesn't make much difference whether you spend an hour or so going to MAN DSA EMA. You only have to look at the winter skiing program (or lack off) from Leeds to see that Manchester will see passengers move to DSA if they provide the flights and the bulk of these are charter, not Loco.
If your still around (MEFLYBE) in a few years, look back at whats left of flights (charter) from Humberside, i don't think they'll be many. If Humberside had any growth in it the Locos would have moved in by now, it'll be like Exeter, half of b****r all.
Sure Leeds will still be around with the likes of Midland, Eastern and Flybe for the scheduled stuff, i hope JET2 stay, but they must get it right this summer, they have a good product and are well liked by the punters, but these same punter have the memory time span of a gold fish. If you don't believe me then ask some one who only travels on a charter flight once or twice a year, then chances are they won't remember who they flew with.
Thomsonfly are a very big group and will spend a stack putting donny on the map, so mefly, its time for mebed, got a truck to drive in't mornin
He He oft t't hare port
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"it'll be like exeter, half of b****r all"
This just proves my point, that you don't have a clue about what you're going on about!
In 2003, EXT handled approx 380,000 pax, this figure, following Flybe's expansion there is expected to be nearer the 500,000 mark for 2004, does this increase make EXT half of b****r all?????
So so far you have said that HUY and LBA will lose virtually ALL of their IT traffic to DSA and that EXT is heading down a similar grim path!
What are you on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mike
This just proves my point, that you don't have a clue about what you're going on about!
In 2003, EXT handled approx 380,000 pax, this figure, following Flybe's expansion there is expected to be nearer the 500,000 mark for 2004, does this increase make EXT half of b****r all?????
So so far you have said that HUY and LBA will lose virtually ALL of their IT traffic to DSA and that EXT is heading down a similar grim path!
What are you on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards
Mike
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You don't get it do you 380k is a whisker over a 1000 a day, factor in the summer charter traffic and outside that season it less than half that , far more people from the Exeter region end up going to BRS or Cardiff, just like the car loads that make the trek across the M62 to MAN from Leeds, all i'm saying is that with DSA opening up some of that market will be pulled from MAN & it won't do Leeds an favours.
As for FLYBE growing Exeter well time will tell if passengers really want to fly on turboprops however new and clever they are ( the aircraft not the pax!)
As for Humberside, a slow and painfull death awaits, still it'll make a great flying club.
Now FLYBE isn't that the outfit that order the CRJ and found that many of their senior guys couldn't handel the conversion so the got rid of the aircraft, not the guys that couldn't make the grade.
Then they ordered the RJX but Bae couldn't make it and sell it at a profit. So now its a mix of slow 146 & RJ's clogging the airways until they run out of puff the wrong side of 30k and quickish (for a prop) dash well the latest one any way.
Is this not the oufit that started LBA -LCY for about a fortnight, but kept it a secret.....yep they'll grow the Exeter movements positioning flights for servicing don't make anyone a lot of money
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As for FLYBE growing Exeter well time will tell if passengers really want to fly on turboprops however new and clever they are ( the aircraft not the pax!)
As for Humberside, a slow and painfull death awaits, still it'll make a great flying club.
Now FLYBE isn't that the outfit that order the CRJ and found that many of their senior guys couldn't handel the conversion so the got rid of the aircraft, not the guys that couldn't make the grade.
Then they ordered the RJX but Bae couldn't make it and sell it at a profit. So now its a mix of slow 146 & RJ's clogging the airways until they run out of puff the wrong side of 30k and quickish (for a prop) dash well the latest one any way.
Is this not the oufit that started LBA -LCY for about a fortnight, but kept it a secret.....yep they'll grow the Exeter movements positioning flights for servicing don't make anyone a lot of money
Light blue touch paper and stand well back....He He
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It never ceases to amaze me how these threads start out on one topic and end up on a totally different one - this one is a good example - began as "Jet 2 consolidating" and now has mutated into yet another Flybe bashing!
As far as the Q400 is concerned, if the loads they are getting on GLA & EDI - BHD are anything to go by, then the punters must be more than happy to travel on them!
As far as the Q400 is concerned, if the loads they are getting on GLA & EDI - BHD are anything to go by, then the punters must be more than happy to travel on them!
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and so he manages to bring HIS own special hobby horse bhd into the frame.Back to JET 2 and how they are "consolidating"or not please
never ceases to amaze me how these threads start out on one topic and end up on a totally different one -
Q400 is concerned, if the loads they are getting on GLA & EDI - BHD are anything to go by,
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Hehe..... I'd rather stick around for the bun fight if that's alright with you Eastern!!
Mike - why aeulad? Did you get banned from posting as MEFLYBE for your ability to "lose it" for no apparent reason? KAT TOO, whilst rather unpleasing to the eye, IS rather knowledgeable in all things aviation and is only expressing an opinion when all is said and done......
Mike - why aeulad? Did you get banned from posting as MEFLYBE for your ability to "lose it" for no apparent reason? KAT TOO, whilst rather unpleasing to the eye, IS rather knowledgeable in all things aviation and is only expressing an opinion when all is said and done......
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KAT TOO
While I dont agree with your comments as we are all entitled to our own opinions I just cannot see how you have come to your conclusions.
"As for Humberside, a slow and painfull death awaits, still it'll make a great flying club."
Tarrot cards, palmist or just wishful thinking?
While I dont agree with your comments as we are all entitled to our own opinions I just cannot see how you have come to your conclusions.
"As for Humberside, a slow and painfull death awaits, still it'll make a great flying club."
Tarrot cards, palmist or just wishful thinking?
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Much as I hate digressing on threads I do think that some of KAT TOO's views are in need of correction.
Flybe's reason for getting shot of the CRJ's is that they were far too expensive to operate on the routes they were being used on (LBABHD, BHXEDI) compared with the Dash 8's. They were also too small at just 50 seats.
It all goes back about 5 years when the initial order was made. As a major franchisee of Air France, and with the prospect of operating routes such as EDICDG and GLACDG the CRJ was selected for which it was ideal. In the time it took to manufacture the aircraft AF went on a spending spree and purchased Regional Airlines and Britair adding countless 50 seat jets to their fleet and so negating the need for Flybe's CRJ's.
There was certainly no issues regarding the skill of Flybe's flight crews!!!
Yes the 146 is old and yes it is quite slow but Flybe know the aircraft inside out and the lease rates are at rock bottom negating any extra costs incurred from operating the type.
RE. LBALCY....Flybe now have a larger national marketing spend that either Ryanair and Easyjet at £10million per annum. They also sponsor local Exeter City FC and premiership side Birmingham City.
The base at Exeter is doing better than anticipated and routes from EXT to MAN/NCL/AMS and CDG are likely later in the year from October.
Flybe's reason for getting shot of the CRJ's is that they were far too expensive to operate on the routes they were being used on (LBABHD, BHXEDI) compared with the Dash 8's. They were also too small at just 50 seats.
It all goes back about 5 years when the initial order was made. As a major franchisee of Air France, and with the prospect of operating routes such as EDICDG and GLACDG the CRJ was selected for which it was ideal. In the time it took to manufacture the aircraft AF went on a spending spree and purchased Regional Airlines and Britair adding countless 50 seat jets to their fleet and so negating the need for Flybe's CRJ's.
There was certainly no issues regarding the skill of Flybe's flight crews!!!
Yes the 146 is old and yes it is quite slow but Flybe know the aircraft inside out and the lease rates are at rock bottom negating any extra costs incurred from operating the type.
RE. LBALCY....Flybe now have a larger national marketing spend that either Ryanair and Easyjet at £10million per annum. They also sponsor local Exeter City FC and premiership side Birmingham City.
The base at Exeter is doing better than anticipated and routes from EXT to MAN/NCL/AMS and CDG are likely later in the year from October.
