Prestwick Airport, what a joke!
EGPK
Dont rise to the Bash Prestwick bait again people ! Remember Dannys warning : -
As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.
@ G=AMMY
I did a search on your posts out of interest not exactly an impartial commentator to kick off this thread are you ? LOL
Some examples :-
Topic: Ryanair Taxi Tactics
posted 8th March 2003 20:52
I know what you mean! Do airside speed limits not apply to some pilots? Also, quite often I see a lot of pilots not even following the taxiway centre-line markings and cutting corners just so that they get on stand sooner.
posted 8th April 2003 05:19
As a Ryanair dispatcher the rule is
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posted 9th April 2003 23:26
.. G-AMMY is an experienced Ryanair Dispatcher and was Dispatcher of the month!!
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posted 28th December 2003 07:04
I live in Glasgow .
By deduction then, G-AMMY, you work at Prestwick are you really a Ryanair Dispatcher or an employee of PIK dispatching Ryanair aircraft as they say in Private Eye, I think we should be told! . In any case , have you made your concerns known to the Chief Pilot or your Supervisor no ? Thought not !
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posted 3rd March 2004 23:31
..but its only for a University project .
OK this narrows your ID down a bit ! ;-)
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posted 26th March 2004 13:49
..Ha ha ha ha....... runway31, you could not be further from the truth.
Does it make you feel big when you insult other people?
Everyone is entitled to have their own views and in my opinion Prestwick is a disgrace.
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On 1st September 2003 05:04 you posted . BAe 146-100
Where do you get your info from?
You seem to think that you know everything!
Doesnt tie in very well with your comment above does it ?
posted 27th March 2004 11:39
No, I am not a passenger. Furthermore, in all the airports that I have visited in my life, I have never witnessed such a shambolic operation!
Out of interest, why do you think that Prestwick can not attract other major Scheduled carriers?
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OK 1) Ive spent 4 hours stuck in a DC10 on the apron @ KBOS thats what I call shambolic
2) Have you made your feelings known to PIK Management so they can take remedial action if required ?
3) Perhaps you would enlighten us with your wisdom and tell us why Prestwick can not attract other major Scheduled carriers? Im sure Mr.Wilson is dying to hear your solution !! [Mind you, as the airport had a record 133,948 pax in January, obviously the lavvies cannae be that bad !! ]
As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.
@ G=AMMY
I did a search on your posts out of interest not exactly an impartial commentator to kick off this thread are you ? LOL
Some examples :-
Topic: Ryanair Taxi Tactics
posted 8th March 2003 20:52
I know what you mean! Do airside speed limits not apply to some pilots? Also, quite often I see a lot of pilots not even following the taxiway centre-line markings and cutting corners just so that they get on stand sooner.
posted 8th April 2003 05:19
As a Ryanair dispatcher the rule is
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posted 9th April 2003 23:26
.. G-AMMY is an experienced Ryanair Dispatcher and was Dispatcher of the month!!
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posted 28th December 2003 07:04
I live in Glasgow .
By deduction then, G-AMMY, you work at Prestwick are you really a Ryanair Dispatcher or an employee of PIK dispatching Ryanair aircraft as they say in Private Eye, I think we should be told! . In any case , have you made your concerns known to the Chief Pilot or your Supervisor no ? Thought not !
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posted 3rd March 2004 23:31
..but its only for a University project .
OK this narrows your ID down a bit ! ;-)
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posted 26th March 2004 13:49
..Ha ha ha ha....... runway31, you could not be further from the truth.
Does it make you feel big when you insult other people?
Everyone is entitled to have their own views and in my opinion Prestwick is a disgrace.
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On 1st September 2003 05:04 you posted . BAe 146-100
Where do you get your info from?
You seem to think that you know everything!
Doesnt tie in very well with your comment above does it ?
posted 27th March 2004 11:39
No, I am not a passenger. Furthermore, in all the airports that I have visited in my life, I have never witnessed such a shambolic operation!
Out of interest, why do you think that Prestwick can not attract other major Scheduled carriers?
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OK 1) Ive spent 4 hours stuck in a DC10 on the apron @ KBOS thats what I call shambolic
2) Have you made your feelings known to PIK Management so they can take remedial action if required ?
3) Perhaps you would enlighten us with your wisdom and tell us why Prestwick can not attract other major Scheduled carriers? Im sure Mr.Wilson is dying to hear your solution !! [Mind you, as the airport had a record 133,948 pax in January, obviously the lavvies cannae be that bad !! ]
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Eric T Cartman,
The purpose of this discussion was to highlight the clearly outdated facilities at Prestwick.
Everyone has the right to their own opinion and I was looking for general thoughts and opinions on the services and facilities available at Prestwick.
G-AMMY
(By the way, I worked in Dublin for Ryanair for a short period and now work at Edinburgh Airport)
The purpose of this discussion was to highlight the clearly outdated facilities at Prestwick.
What are other peoples views on Prestwick?
G-AMMY
(By the way, I worked in Dublin for Ryanair for a short period and now work at Edinburgh Airport)
EGPK
G-AMMY
"The purpose of this discussion was to highlight the clearly outdated facilities at Prestwick."
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Why pick on Prestwick ? If you are at Edinburgh, why not make it your mission to highlight the clearly outdated transport facilities there and Glasgow too , for that matter ? They still don't have a railway station at their Airports - Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted and Manchester do - & guess what - so does Prestwick.....
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"Everyone has the right to their own opinion and I was looking for general thoughts and opinions on the services and facilities available at Prestwick."
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Same question - why the interest in Prestwick ? - & when you have those opinions , what will you do about it ?
"The purpose of this discussion was to highlight the clearly outdated facilities at Prestwick."
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Why pick on Prestwick ? If you are at Edinburgh, why not make it your mission to highlight the clearly outdated transport facilities there and Glasgow too , for that matter ? They still don't have a railway station at their Airports - Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted and Manchester do - & guess what - so does Prestwick.....
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"Everyone has the right to their own opinion and I was looking for general thoughts and opinions on the services and facilities available at Prestwick."
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Same question - why the interest in Prestwick ? - & when you have those opinions , what will you do about it ?
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Eric T Cartman,
I see what you are saying. I visited Prestwick last week while dropping a friend off and I was a little surprised when I saw the condition of the airport terminal inside. If I was a passenger, I suppose that I would see the airport in a different light as I would be there for a different reason. I will try and travel from Prestwick in the near future and see if my views change.
G-AMMY
I see what you are saying. I visited Prestwick last week while dropping a friend off and I was a little surprised when I saw the condition of the airport terminal inside. If I was a passenger, I suppose that I would see the airport in a different light as I would be there for a different reason. I will try and travel from Prestwick in the near future and see if my views change.
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g-ammy,
You and the rest of us kow that BAA dumped Prestwick back then.New owners took over, now do you realy expect them to have the money at the moment to upgrade it to your qaulities?
Put it this way, Prestwick can get you where you want to go and when you want to go,who cares about the facilities.As far as I am concerned PIK is doing fine and the facilities are fine at the moment.
About major airlines, BWIA certainly were not put off by the facilities.If I remember right they filed for permission to fly to PIK.
kpiko3
You and the rest of us kow that BAA dumped Prestwick back then.New owners took over, now do you realy expect them to have the money at the moment to upgrade it to your qaulities?
Put it this way, Prestwick can get you where you want to go and when you want to go,who cares about the facilities.As far as I am concerned PIK is doing fine and the facilities are fine at the moment.
About major airlines, BWIA certainly were not put off by the facilities.If I remember right they filed for permission to fly to PIK.
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Kris,
It would still be nice to hear opinions from passengers that use the airport frequently. I think that your views are biased slightly (along with many others in this thread) due to the fact that you are an aviaion enthusiast, who lives in Prestwick and of course you will support your local airport.
G-AMMY
Some interesting views from passengers on www.airlinequality.com
It would still be nice to hear opinions from passengers that use the airport frequently. I think that your views are biased slightly (along with many others in this thread) due to the fact that you are an aviaion enthusiast, who lives in Prestwick and of course you will support your local airport.
G-AMMY
Some interesting views from passengers on www.airlinequality.com
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You are right GAMMY. Here is the last posting on Prestwick. He presumably didn't try to access the observation terrace which is currently closed but otherwise he seems satisfied.
Glasgow Prestwick Airport by John Crockett
20 February 2004
I have recently used the much underused and underated other International Airport of Glasgow at Prestwick. Although the airport is about 30miles from Glasgow the access is trouble free and reliable in the form of a train service and motorway both leading to Glasgow. It may be a bit of extra hassle getting to airport but while other airports may be suffering ice and snow it is a good bet that the runway at Prestwick will be open due to it's mild micro climate. The airport is mainly used by Ryanair and charter aircraft. The airport is under private ownership and not BAA like most other UK airports. The interior of the airport is old but it is efficient, no crowds and every process from checking in to boarding is hassle free. There are bars and restaurants and even an observation balcony. All in all quite pleasant and much under utilsed by the major carriers.
Glasgow Prestwick Airport by John Crockett
20 February 2004
I have recently used the much underused and underated other International Airport of Glasgow at Prestwick. Although the airport is about 30miles from Glasgow the access is trouble free and reliable in the form of a train service and motorway both leading to Glasgow. It may be a bit of extra hassle getting to airport but while other airports may be suffering ice and snow it is a good bet that the runway at Prestwick will be open due to it's mild micro climate. The airport is mainly used by Ryanair and charter aircraft. The airport is under private ownership and not BAA like most other UK airports. The interior of the airport is old but it is efficient, no crowds and every process from checking in to boarding is hassle free. There are bars and restaurants and even an observation balcony. All in all quite pleasant and much under utilsed by the major carriers.
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Well........ my personal favourite is Palm Springs, California.
The truth of the matter is that in my experience virtually all airports are a bit grotty. It is all down to the problem of letting Joe Public use them. Prestwick is by no means perfect though it is better than it was. It does not, however, deserve to be singled out and certainly does not warrant the word 'disgrace'.
I use both PIK and GLA a fair bit and had fewer 'bad' experiences at PIK. One example last year at a temporary cafe at GLA was particularly bad but I wouldn't completely slag off Glasgow on the back of it as you seem to have done based on one bad Prestwick experience.
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Over the last year I have become a frequent user of Prestwick as a passenger (twice a week on average) for business reasons.
Its location is not as close to Glasgow Airport as to where I need to be, but it's a lot cheaper to fly into, and a lot quicker to get to and from than Glasgow.
Admittedly, it's decor and infrastructure is beginning to compete with Dublin Airport for that "worn and well used" look, but it's functional and there are very rarely any significant delays.
I fully understand that airports are, by their very nature, very expensive beasts to run, and if you are reliant on low cost airlines to provide a substantial slice of your income, you can't afford to make major investments/improvements without very careful planning.
The big advantage of Prestwick Airport is, although it's not pretty, in a month of flying in and out of there, I probably spend less time in the terminal than I do in 5 days at Stansted, and that to me, is a big plus factor.
Its location is not as close to Glasgow Airport as to where I need to be, but it's a lot cheaper to fly into, and a lot quicker to get to and from than Glasgow.
Admittedly, it's decor and infrastructure is beginning to compete with Dublin Airport for that "worn and well used" look, but it's functional and there are very rarely any significant delays.
I fully understand that airports are, by their very nature, very expensive beasts to run, and if you are reliant on low cost airlines to provide a substantial slice of your income, you can't afford to make major investments/improvements without very careful planning.
The big advantage of Prestwick Airport is, although it's not pretty, in a month of flying in and out of there, I probably spend less time in the terminal than I do in 5 days at Stansted, and that to me, is a big plus factor.
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Whilst I don't frequent websites to do with railway stations at all, I'd be a bit surprised to read similar stuff about them if they did exist (railway station websites that is). The point of an airport is to allow the safe and efficient embarkation / disembarkation to / from aircraft. Is that not what PIK does? In these days of low cost, taking the plane is like / better than taking the train; why would there be an expectation that the airport should be so much better than a railway station - after all, the fare charged for air travel is often lower than that for rail.
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G-ammy,
Yes I do live in Prestwick and I like to stick up for my local airport, but I dont think the airport deserves to get called a disgrace as you put it.
Its doing well at the moment and hopefully once the airport starts getting lots more pax through it will have done enough to generate the cash needed to upgrade facilities e.g toilets,terminal.........
Kpiko3
Yes I do live in Prestwick and I like to stick up for my local airport, but I dont think the airport deserves to get called a disgrace as you put it.
Its doing well at the moment and hopefully once the airport starts getting lots more pax through it will have done enough to generate the cash needed to upgrade facilities e.g toilets,terminal.........
Kpiko3
