When do TUI'S 735's Arrive At Coventry?
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Following extracts from Coventry Evening Telegraph on the recent demonstration by CAECA (the anti's)
"May 8 2004
By Simon Dudman
Supporters of expansion at Coventry Airport have rubbished claims made by protesters about the environ-mental impact of extra flights.
On Monday, members of the Campaign Against The Expansion of Coventry Airport (CAECA) staged a peaceful protest outside the airport which was attended by nearly 250 people and was on the theme of pollution."
However,
"May 4 2004
By Simon Dudman
More than 200 angry campaigners protested outside Coventry Airport at Baginton to voice concerns over its environmental impact.
The Campaign Against the Expansion of Coventry Airport (CAECA) staged the event yesterday to draw attention to what it said were the negative effects on air quality, ecology and road conditions and the risk of disease.
The protest had aimed to be peaceful but airport security staff had to restrain some protesters who appeared to be trying to storm the entrance."
So was it peaceful ?
"May 8 2004
By Simon Dudman
Supporters of expansion at Coventry Airport have rubbished claims made by protesters about the environ-mental impact of extra flights.
On Monday, members of the Campaign Against The Expansion of Coventry Airport (CAECA) staged a peaceful protest outside the airport which was attended by nearly 250 people and was on the theme of pollution."
However,
"May 4 2004
By Simon Dudman
More than 200 angry campaigners protested outside Coventry Airport at Baginton to voice concerns over its environmental impact.
The Campaign Against the Expansion of Coventry Airport (CAECA) staged the event yesterday to draw attention to what it said were the negative effects on air quality, ecology and road conditions and the risk of disease.
The protest had aimed to be peaceful but airport security staff had to restrain some protesters who appeared to be trying to storm the entrance."
So was it peaceful ?
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gobfa, check out the airport supporters' forum for more about this - http://pub33.bravenet.com/forum/2773950195
No, it was anything but peaceful, as the Observer more accurately reported. The CET reported didn't even show up to the demo.
No, it was anything but peaceful, as the Observer more accurately reported. The CET reported didn't even show up to the demo.
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Have been following this tread and various web sites for sometime now, and yes i have registered.
As for Simon Dudman (is this his real name or just a description of his output), have sympathy for the "boy", he had to write something after waiting in The Oak for the protestors to turn up. How else can he justify the expense claim.
Remember the old press saying "Why let the truth get in the way of a story"
Look forward to more lies being debunked
Have been following this tread and various web sites for sometime now, and yes i have registered.
As for Simon Dudman (is this his real name or just a description of his output), have sympathy for the "boy", he had to write something after waiting in The Oak for the protestors to turn up. How else can he justify the expense claim.
Remember the old press saying "Why let the truth get in the way of a story"
Look forward to more lies being debunked
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Jon, Where are you getting this from? I'd love to see Turin in their winter t/t - it is a great city in its own right, and of course host for Winter Olympics etc.
Now I wonder what might link Coventry with Turin?
Now I wonder what might link Coventry with Turin?
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I attended the protest at the airport gates and of course it was peaceful as it was mostly mothers and children like myself.
There was an incident when an idiot came out and waved a clipboard around shouting that he was 'protesting against the protest' and deliberately tried to antagonise people. All that happened was that he was picked up by two men and carried a few yards away from the crowd, he was subsequently apologised to by some of the women and he seemed ok, if a little shame-faced.
I witnessed only one other incident whereby a Land Rover driver deliberately drove into and hit a protester carrying a sign. He must have hit him quite hard as his wing mirror fell off. This could have been a child, and he was very lucky that this gentleman wasn't seriously injured as we have the registration and many witnesses.
There was an incident when an idiot came out and waved a clipboard around shouting that he was 'protesting against the protest' and deliberately tried to antagonise people. All that happened was that he was picked up by two men and carried a few yards away from the crowd, he was subsequently apologised to by some of the women and he seemed ok, if a little shame-faced.
I witnessed only one other incident whereby a Land Rover driver deliberately drove into and hit a protester carrying a sign. He must have hit him quite hard as his wing mirror fell off. This could have been a child, and he was very lucky that this gentleman wasn't seriously injured as we have the registration and many witnesses.
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Faux environmentalists
LTNman, all I can say is that the usally empty Oak car park was suddenly very full on the day of the protest.
It is precisely for reasons liks this that I decided to go and challenge CAECA head on.
Richardms31,
...an idiot came out and waved a clipboard around shouting that he was 'protesting against the protest' and deliberately tried to antagonise people.
> Haven't CAECA antagonised enough people already? It only takes one person to speak up for the silent majority.
....All that happened was that he was picked up by two men and carried a few yards away from the crowd,
> and kicked, and had umbrellas pushed in my face.
....he was subsequently apologised to by some of the women and he seemed ok, if a little shame-faced.
> I don't recal anyone apologising to me, or condemning the actions of those who ejected me from the demonstration, which I had just as much right to attend as they did.
The tide is at last turning against this very small minority who are trying to stop the rest of us enjoying our local flights. Please do not reply with some environmental tosh about saving the community for future generations, because it won't wash with me.
I have tried having that debate with people from CAECA, and they aren't interested. They are only interested in their own backyard, and until they accept that passenger flights from Coventry are here to stay (and are much better for the environment than people driving to Gatwick), and come to the table with some constructive comments about noise mitigation, then I will continue to campaign against their lies and anti-airport propaganda.
It is precisely for reasons liks this that I decided to go and challenge CAECA head on.
Richardms31,
...an idiot came out and waved a clipboard around shouting that he was 'protesting against the protest' and deliberately tried to antagonise people.
> Haven't CAECA antagonised enough people already? It only takes one person to speak up for the silent majority.
....All that happened was that he was picked up by two men and carried a few yards away from the crowd,
> and kicked, and had umbrellas pushed in my face.
....he was subsequently apologised to by some of the women and he seemed ok, if a little shame-faced.
> I don't recal anyone apologising to me, or condemning the actions of those who ejected me from the demonstration, which I had just as much right to attend as they did.
The tide is at last turning against this very small minority who are trying to stop the rest of us enjoying our local flights. Please do not reply with some environmental tosh about saving the community for future generations, because it won't wash with me.
I have tried having that debate with people from CAECA, and they aren't interested. They are only interested in their own backyard, and until they accept that passenger flights from Coventry are here to stay (and are much better for the environment than people driving to Gatwick), and come to the table with some constructive comments about noise mitigation, then I will continue to campaign against their lies and anti-airport propaganda.
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Oh it was you was it? Well done for coming out, all I know is that I know what I saw, and I don't tell lies in order to preserve my job or my web-site!
My children have both developed hacking coughs since 1st April, and the doctor has diagnosed asthma, no history of this ever in my family or any similar symptoms previously - but hey, the health of young children isn't important is it? As long as they're not your children or the children of airport workers or TUI employees it's ok, as long as we dont all have to travel an extra 15mins down the road to Bham airport, it's just fine, and as long as TUI make a huge profit, that's fine too. You should be ashamed of yourself.
My children have both developed hacking coughs since 1st April, and the doctor has diagnosed asthma, no history of this ever in my family or any similar symptoms previously - but hey, the health of young children isn't important is it? As long as they're not your children or the children of airport workers or TUI employees it's ok, as long as we dont all have to travel an extra 15mins down the road to Bham airport, it's just fine, and as long as TUI make a huge profit, that's fine too. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Richard,
I told you that I would not listen to any kind of environmental tosh.
To say that there is a causal link between Thomsonfly flights starting on one day, and your kids getting asthma the next is utterly ridiculous.
I don't want to belittle a serious condition, but I have never heard such crap in this debate. I suggest you read last week's Observer article, in which CAECA tried to claim a 50% rise in infant mortality around the airport. This claim was put to Professor Ronan Lyons, one of the country's top experts in air pollution, who said there was no evidence to back up such claims, and accused CAECA of using the "black arts of propaganda".
No-one denies that planes emit pollutants. But I think you will find a much bigger source of pollution running near to the airport. It is called the A45.
Sorry, I forgot to add that if the driver deliberately hit the protestors as you say he did, you should report him to the police. Violence against protestors cannot be condoned, whatever side of the argument they are on.
And if you think I am telling lies, please come up with some factual claims to back up your arguments.
I told you that I would not listen to any kind of environmental tosh.
To say that there is a causal link between Thomsonfly flights starting on one day, and your kids getting asthma the next is utterly ridiculous.
I don't want to belittle a serious condition, but I have never heard such crap in this debate. I suggest you read last week's Observer article, in which CAECA tried to claim a 50% rise in infant mortality around the airport. This claim was put to Professor Ronan Lyons, one of the country's top experts in air pollution, who said there was no evidence to back up such claims, and accused CAECA of using the "black arts of propaganda".
No-one denies that planes emit pollutants. But I think you will find a much bigger source of pollution running near to the airport. It is called the A45.
Sorry, I forgot to add that if the driver deliberately hit the protestors as you say he did, you should report him to the police. Violence against protestors cannot be condoned, whatever side of the argument they are on.
And if you think I am telling lies, please come up with some factual claims to back up your arguments.
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Airport Protestors Break Planning Rules!
Someone else has broke planning regulations! Its not the people who run a big field with a strip of tarmac down it. Its not the people flying big blue airplanes.... its CAECA!!
Theyve been ordered to take down their Protest Signs as they are effectively adverts that have no permission!! Full story: www.iccoventry.co.uk
Ok, not big news, but couldnt help LMAO!
Theyve been ordered to take down their Protest Signs as they are effectively adverts that have no permission!! Full story: www.iccoventry.co.uk
Ok, not big news, but couldnt help LMAO!
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Didn't you notice CVT airport when you bought your house? What about the jets that fly in and out oftenly.. not forgetting Air Atlantique.
By the way, my sister has asthma too, it doesn't run in our family either.
By the way, my sister has asthma too, it doesn't run in our family either.
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Asthma is one of those conditions which has unfortunately been on the rise in the UK, and we don't have a very good record in treating it.
I would ask anyone who suffers from it what they are doing to make the home environment more tolerable. For example, I get quite bad hay fever. I'm not saying for one minute that this is as bad. But what I am saying is that I regularly wash bed linen, and have a very good air filter in my home office and in my bedroom. This takes away most of the problem. I understand that there are some very good hoovers on the market too, which can help get rid of the dust-mites which make these conditions so much worse.
I know this is getting a little off topic, but I think it is worth pointing out that there are various things which can be done to "mitigate" living near busy roads or airports, which will all be far more effective than barking at the thousands of people who are using them (will CAECA try picketing the road users on the A45?).
I also wonder how many people living near airports have double glazing? This might sound obvious, but I stayed in an airport hotel near EWR in March. I knew the planes were there, but thought I was a fair distance from the runway (arriving late at night, and through winding access roads). It was only when I went out the next day that I realised just how close to the runway the hotel actually was.
Again, we're not very good at building houses in the UK either. I just wonder if all new houses near airports were built to Swedish insulation standards, whether we'd have so many complaints?
I would ask anyone who suffers from it what they are doing to make the home environment more tolerable. For example, I get quite bad hay fever. I'm not saying for one minute that this is as bad. But what I am saying is that I regularly wash bed linen, and have a very good air filter in my home office and in my bedroom. This takes away most of the problem. I understand that there are some very good hoovers on the market too, which can help get rid of the dust-mites which make these conditions so much worse.
I know this is getting a little off topic, but I think it is worth pointing out that there are various things which can be done to "mitigate" living near busy roads or airports, which will all be far more effective than barking at the thousands of people who are using them (will CAECA try picketing the road users on the A45?).
I also wonder how many people living near airports have double glazing? This might sound obvious, but I stayed in an airport hotel near EWR in March. I knew the planes were there, but thought I was a fair distance from the runway (arriving late at night, and through winding access roads). It was only when I went out the next day that I realised just how close to the runway the hotel actually was.
Again, we're not very good at building houses in the UK either. I just wonder if all new houses near airports were built to Swedish insulation standards, whether we'd have so many complaints?
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My children have both developed hacking coughs since 1st April, and the doctor has diagnosed asthma, no history of this ever in my family or any similar symptoms previously
no history of this ever in my family or any similar symptoms previously
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You have GOT to read this!
Talk about showing WDC up!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/3705269.stm
ROFLMAO!!!!
Talk about showing WDC up!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/3705269.stm
ROFLMAO!!!!
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Top Banana. The lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank.
Wish the council would stop wasting my taxes on crazy lawsuits.
(if they spent the money on education maybe i could learn to spell )
Wish the council would stop wasting my taxes on crazy lawsuits.
(if they spent the money on education maybe i could learn to spell )
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Could be good news for the airport but whilst all this waiting is going on how many people are holding off from booking flights?(several people I know are), I wish there was a way that the airline could claim back any lost revenue whilst this waiting is going on. I suppose proving it is the problem.
Also does this mean another delay for the planning permission for the permanent terminal? I guess they will be calling for a public enquiry for that next, however at least that would end all this nimby nonsense.
Re the asthma, sorry to hear that your children have developed that condition but your claims are medically unfounded and quite frankly ludicrous, it is those sorts of claims that have done your CAECA organisation no good at all. The CAECA effort is full of lies and deceit and I think they are to blame for much of the pro-airport sentiment being voiced, people are fed up of hearing all their ridiculous claims.
WDC website just updated:
click here
Also does this mean another delay for the planning permission for the permanent terminal? I guess they will be calling for a public enquiry for that next, however at least that would end all this nimby nonsense.
Re the asthma, sorry to hear that your children have developed that condition but your claims are medically unfounded and quite frankly ludicrous, it is those sorts of claims that have done your CAECA organisation no good at all. The CAECA effort is full of lies and deceit and I think they are to blame for much of the pro-airport sentiment being voiced, people are fed up of hearing all their ridiculous claims.
WDC website just updated:
click here