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No probs H.
Wish NOW well and can't see easyjet being in great shape to fight them off especially with their own problems seemingly unsolved and mega loads of Airbuses about to fall upon them. As someone above said lowcost is about keeping overheads down and easyjet have apparently just about twice as many staff as Ryans for the roughly the same size of fleet. Seem to recall they made a large loss last winter.
After all the orange bleating towards BA back in the late 80's it will be interesting to see how they view start up competition themselves now - their view used to be that competition was great and healthy and we must have it. Right now I think their scared out of their wits that their staff will b*gg*r off to NOW not to mention what their pax might do if they have choice
Wish NOW well and can't see easyjet being in great shape to fight them off especially with their own problems seemingly unsolved and mega loads of Airbuses about to fall upon them. As someone above said lowcost is about keeping overheads down and easyjet have apparently just about twice as many staff as Ryans for the roughly the same size of fleet. Seem to recall they made a large loss last winter.
After all the orange bleating towards BA back in the late 80's it will be interesting to see how they view start up competition themselves now - their view used to be that competition was great and healthy and we must have it. Right now I think their scared out of their wits that their staff will b*gg*r off to NOW not to mention what their pax might do if they have choice
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Congratulations on Closing the Thread
It was about time the previous thread was closed. Negative title and negative postings are not what Now is about. It's not in the company culture.
Some very positive words coming out of Halcyon House about our future. Lets hope the hard work over the last months has paid off with an approved AOC very soon. From all reports a very successful proving flight.
JMC Man - Do we need to supply our own glasses for the champers or are you going to send them along too?
Some very positive words coming out of Halcyon House about our future. Lets hope the hard work over the last months has paid off with an approved AOC very soon. From all reports a very successful proving flight.
JMC Man - Do we need to supply our own glasses for the champers or are you going to send them along too?
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Can someone just clarify how long it takes to get the AOC, assuming all relevent 'items' have been made available to the CAA. My understanding is that all the necessary crews have been recruited for the launch and the marketing campaign is just waiting for the 'button to be hit'. Bookings are due to start in November but this cannot happen until all appropriate licences have been obtained from the CAA.
Once again, good luck to everyone at Now. Go for it.
Once again, good luck to everyone at Now. Go for it.
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Bacardi Walla - I think you'll find that is one of those closely guarded commercial secrets that will get published when the "button is pressed".
I am expecting news of it within the week.
I am expecting news of it within the week.
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So the routes are identified, AOC application is in and an experienced senior management team is on hands... sounds like an advert in Flight this week for an airline looking for funding...
Or am I becoming to negative...
Or am I becoming to negative...
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Ttree Ttrimmer thanks because I was (am) wondering whether now that the proving flight is over, there may be something else major holding things back. I'm curious, I want them to succeed and hopefully put some orange and blue noses out 
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Let's just say that everyone should wait until Monday for any more news regarding launches. I have a few favourites I would like to see as destinations, but I haven't a clue as to which have been selected to launch with.
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Sorry to say my money is with yours Tenminutes!
I genuinely wish NOW all the very best but sadly I feel very sorry for those who have given up existing jobs and incurred other expenses in order to join this outfit who already (RUMOUR has it!) at this initial stage cannot honour their initial promises to these loyal and faithful supporters........!
Good Luck to all!
I genuinely wish NOW all the very best but sadly I feel very sorry for those who have given up existing jobs and incurred other expenses in order to join this outfit who already (RUMOUR has it!) at this initial stage cannot honour their initial promises to these loyal and faithful supporters........!
Good Luck to all!
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The latest odds are these ( you can PM me if you want to take me up on my bookmaking):
All prices relate to COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS with FARE PAYING PASSENGERS, as confirmed by Luton Airport Management.
5/1 start first flight before 1st January 2004
3/1 start first flight before 14th January 2004
5/2 start first flight before 21st January 2004
2/1 start first flight before 31st January 2004
Evens start first flight before 14th February 2004
3/5 start first flight before 28th February 2004
1/3 start before 31st March 2004
1/5 They do not get airborne at all before 30th April 2004
All enquiries willingly discussed, and I will give 20% of any bookmaking PROFITS to the PPRUNE fund for cadet development!!
Good luck!
All prices relate to COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS with FARE PAYING PASSENGERS, as confirmed by Luton Airport Management.
5/1 start first flight before 1st January 2004
3/1 start first flight before 14th January 2004
5/2 start first flight before 21st January 2004
2/1 start first flight before 31st January 2004
Evens start first flight before 14th February 2004
3/5 start first flight before 28th February 2004
1/3 start before 31st March 2004
1/5 They do not get airborne at all before 30th April 2004
All enquiries willingly discussed, and I will give 20% of any bookmaking PROFITS to the PPRUNE fund for cadet development!!
Good luck!
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why don't we ask someone from EZY to give us their ideas. Afterall, it seems as though it's them that's behind the stalling....whats up Stelios, frightened of some competition
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Bacardi Walla, Flymate et al..
No we WON'T ask easyJet, or Ryanair or Luton AIrport.
We'll ask the guys who wrote a great big banner statement on a website about KEEPING PROMISES.
Do you really think, with easyJet the size it is , that the give a tuppenny stuff about a Psedo Airline that has so far delivered on NONE of it's deadlines or promises. Get a grip.
I have some friends who have joined NOW. For their sakes, I hope they get something together. I still say the senior team has very littel credibility or experience...and all this messing around with delayed start dates, no route network, no aircraft, and obvious lack of finance only confirm my worst fears.
If they have any sense they'll put the start-up back to MAY next year, and use the intervening time take the opportunity to GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER!
No we WON'T ask easyJet, or Ryanair or Luton AIrport.
We'll ask the guys who wrote a great big banner statement on a website about KEEPING PROMISES.
Do you really think, with easyJet the size it is , that the give a tuppenny stuff about a Psedo Airline that has so far delivered on NONE of it's deadlines or promises. Get a grip.
I have some friends who have joined NOW. For their sakes, I hope they get something together. I still say the senior team has very littel credibility or experience...and all this messing around with delayed start dates, no route network, no aircraft, and obvious lack of finance only confirm my worst fears.
If they have any sense they'll put the start-up back to MAY next year, and use the intervening time take the opportunity to GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER!
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Can't understand any of this. Why such angst? Does jmc-man ask other airlines to declare their commercial startegy on PPRUNE - er no! So why does he think NOW would want to do that.
From what I hear the AOC process went well and I think you'll find that everyone in NOW is confident of what they're doing.
Thunor - misinformed garbage.
When you get over the rather ridiculous idea that airlines will declare their commercial intent on PPRUNE then you might be able to form a more balanced view.
Anyway jmc-man - why the angst? Whats eating you?
(PS: barcadi walla seems clued up - if you bother to look into it, I think you'll find that Easyjet are more than a little worried)
From what I hear the AOC process went well and I think you'll find that everyone in NOW is confident of what they're doing.
Thunor - misinformed garbage.
When you get over the rather ridiculous idea that airlines will declare their commercial intent on PPRUNE then you might be able to form a more balanced view.
Anyway jmc-man - why the angst? Whats eating you?
(PS: barcadi walla seems clued up - if you bother to look into it, I think you'll find that Easyjet are more than a little worried)
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Commercial Strategy...don't make me laugh.
The NOW Promises ....Number 6... We promise to keep all our promises.
They havn't kept a single one....and thats the nub of the problem. Credibility.
Even those on the inside, Flymate etc, give indications that things will happen and, guess what....nothing happens.
No AOC then? So if the proving flight went well, why the delay. The CAA can usually issue an AOC within 48 hours of a proving flight. I know one that was issued the same day. But is there an AOC.... heck no.
Program on sale by 29th...anyone remember reading that one?
It's now far too late for the Christmas market, unless NOW have very deep pockets for a MAJOR advertising campaign, including television. As they seem unable to get an aircraft delivered, don't think there's much chance of that.
Angst...nah.....just voicing all the stuff I hear around the industry...you need to get real guys, or you're gonna fall at the first hurdle.
Commercial Strategy...don't make me laugh.
The NOW Promises ....Number 6... We promise to keep all our promises.
They havn't kept a single one....and thats the nub of the problem. Credibility.
Even those on the inside, Flymate etc, give indications that things will happen and, guess what....nothing happens.
No AOC then? So if the proving flight went well, why the delay. The CAA can usually issue an AOC within 48 hours of a proving flight. I know one that was issued the same day. But is there an AOC.... heck no.
Program on sale by 29th...anyone remember reading that one?
It's now far too late for the Christmas market, unless NOW have very deep pockets for a MAJOR advertising campaign, including television. As they seem unable to get an aircraft delivered, don't think there's much chance of that.
Angst...nah.....just voicing all the stuff I hear around the industry...you need to get real guys, or you're gonna fall at the first hurdle.