Av8 Already In Trouble !!!!!
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Well, no, because if you read my post my criticisms are about ground handling and cabin service, not about flight ops. And the marketing is not Icelandair's responsibility either.
if the aircraft and crews are Icelandair then your criticism is presumably aimed at them as an operation. AV8 can only have so much control over what goes on from that perspective
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Hmmm.....
sounds pretty flight opsy to me - and after all this is the subject of this thread I seem to remember - WRT the rest of your complaints:
EXACTLY........ Your criticisms her are relevant to Icelandair ops not AV8!
I re-iterate my previous comment "they ARE a new airline!"
And on the question of fuel stops, they're at Palma, not Las Palmas. We stopped there in both directions - on the way out via Dublin I understand all of them stop at Palma because the Dublin runway's not long enough for a 767 max weight t/o.
Only partly. The aircraft and flight crew, and at least one of the senior cabin crew, are all Icelandair. So they have a lot of experience on hand to make use of.
I re-iterate my previous comment "they ARE a new airline!"
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The following is taken from the "General Information" provided by CT2-South Africa (the tour operator selling these holidays/flights) and I am sure the printed brochure says the same thing.
"Our flights to and from South Africa are operated as ManAir, by Icelandair utilising Boeing 767. Internal flights within South Africa are operated by Sun Air and other South African based carriers utilising DC9 and other jet or turbo prop aircraft. We plan our holiday flights many months in advance and the flight timings in this Website are provided for guidance and may be subject to change. Details of your confirmed flight timing - using the 24-hour clock system - will be provided in your travel documents. If we have to change your flight, airline or aircraft type, it does not count as a major change to your holiday. Some flights may stop en route for technical reasons (such as refuelling). As the factors affecting such stops may change without notice, it may not always be possible to notify you in advance. "
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"Our flights to and from South Africa are operated as ManAir, by Icelandair utilising Boeing 767. Internal flights within South Africa are operated by Sun Air and other South African based carriers utilising DC9 and other jet or turbo prop aircraft. We plan our holiday flights many months in advance and the flight timings in this Website are provided for guidance and may be subject to change. Details of your confirmed flight timing - using the 24-hour clock system - will be provided in your travel documents. If we have to change your flight, airline or aircraft type, it does not count as a major change to your holiday. Some flights may stop en route for technical reasons (such as refuelling). As the factors affecting such stops may change without notice, it may not always be possible to notify you in advance. "
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No it's not irrelevant at all - there are several issues being raised here many of which are not that uncommon when starting a new company. I haven't mentioned this before but the fact that an aircraft makes a stop for refuelling (or a tech stop) wouldn't put many passengers off since the critical thing for them is whether they are inconvenienced by having to leave the aircraft or change aircraft. If Departure and arrival times include time required for a stop I think generally most pax wouldn't see a problem with a stop at all......
Still my major issue with this thread is the title in any event!!
Still my major issue with this thread is the title in any event!!
