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Airlink promotions
Airlink has recently promoted a few JS41 captains, according to seniority to the respective jet fleets. I hear 4 more are scheduled to join the new ranks this month. 2 to BAE146 and 2 to ERJ135. :DWELL DONE RF:D Looks like there is hope yet!
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good deal
sounds great, but who is flying the JS41's??????
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Hope indeed
There is hope indeed. Airlink is losing a large number of crew and it's sad to see them go.
Airlink has its problems but it is not a bad place to work for. The reality is all airlines have their problems. The truth is, not many people want to spend many years on the jetsream, and why should they? since in this current situation pilots are in demand, so if there is a chance to make a carreer move to a place that operates bigger machines then why not. But if you enjoy flying in an airline environment with a small aircraft into all sorts of conditions with a good bunch of pilots then this may be for you. Trust me you will learn to fly! and even if Airlink is a stepping stone it will serve you greatly. The atmosphere is relaxed, friendly and proffesional see you there Mortivflow |
MortivFlow,
Please mate, dont try cry on someone's shoulder, Roger doesn't give a **** mate, you are getting fooled by him and his antics, don't try get some poor guy to sign his life away cause now people are getting promoted, there is no career at airlink, finished!!!! the will screw you and leave you stranded!!! These promotions are just to little too late I am afraid, the damage has been done and people will not stop leaving, look at those that have left, they not senior capts,they the younger guys, people will not stay at link cause of there kak attitude towards employees, but if you there 5 years and earn 40Grand you can't leave even if you want!!!! GUYS AND GALS WHAT FOR SAX, 1TIME, SAA, MANGO or COMAIR, but please listen to people who have been there done that and STAY AWAY FROM AIRLINK AT ALL COST!!!!! |
buck2rogers69,
Seems like you have quite an opinion...luckily it is yours and not everybody is entitled to your opinion. There are people who enjoy the kind of flying at Airlink, even on the Jetstream. It beats the crap out of flying contract in some sh!t hole in darkest Africa. Seems like your sour grapes is turning into a fine whine. |
Promotions
B2R69
you seem very negative, i'd really like to know why. Sure, we're all entitled 2 an opinion but you seem 2 be spitting flames. Seems that someone really p!ssed you off. Yea the F/O pay @ link is crap, we all hate JVJ and he does things which i'm sure are illegel. But what you're saying is a reflection on your fellow pilots, the guy's you are sharing a cockpit with. The J41 really teaches you 2 fly. 2 do a visual app doing 240 2 6 is something you'll never do again. (and some pilots have never quite hacked that. Ref. ability 2 fly) And then landing on 03L(ink), turning off @ Lima gives me a kick every time. The big jets are already established by 1000' (min) with the checks complete. BUT what really p!sses me is when management gets involved. An ERJ F/O was promoted as well...2 instructor nogal. Bugger the J41 drivers. And then she can't even fly! There is a total lack of spacial awareness. 2 all ERJ drivers, BEWARE!!! Thats why i just prefer 2 get in, do my flying and go home. I still get a kick out of flying my aeroplane! B2R69, my point is, Link is what YOU make of it. I've made the best thereof, but I have the impression that: 1 You are one of those that can't fly and are embarrased about it; 2 You have wasted your time @ link by only seeing the negative. If it is #1, i'm sorry. If it's #2, you will prob experiance the same @ your next employer. B2R69, smile it could be way worse. You could be co-jo on a van in some african sh!thole. Congrat's to those 4 that were promoted. Show them what link drivers are made of! |
hahaha, u crack me up fellows, why do 240 to 6Nm when u can do 350 till 8, please man, wake the F&^K up boet!!! IS that now cause you can fly, please, do you have to do this to get into a big airline???
All I was saying is that there are way better options out there in the airlines, think what you want!!! with way better training as well, cause its all on its way down at link with people getting upgraded on all fleets with min experience, not just on the ERJ!!! Enjoy, we'll meet up one day then you can defend your opinion (and its yours) and mine is mine, but where there is smoke there is fire, AND this has never not been like this!!!!! |
buck2rogers69
Its true what snotneus said. "Link is what YOU make of it"
About doing 240 2 6 or 380 2 8 is not what i meant about being a good pilot. What i meant by learning to fly is the fact that you operate just as much and if not more than most airlines. Just by this type of exposure you will obviously improve on your flying and link can serve you well, thats if you want to use airlink as a stepping stone. (this is not a competition as to see who's the best pilot etc) Buck, what do you mean by "Roger doesn't give a **** mate, you are getting fooled by him and his antics, don't try get some poor guy to sign his life away cause now people are getting promoted, there is no career at airlink, finished!!!! the will screw you and leave you stranded!!!"? In my opinion Rodger has never gone back on his word, he has never lied. In fact he has steered Airlink through thick and thin. We have always had our agreed salarys paid on time etc In fact im sure that RF and JVJ will welcome you with all your wisdom and insight. I dont think you will but i just thought i would mention it We have a lot to improve on, but in general Airlink is not a bad place to work for. mortivflow |
As a previous member of Link circus life (would be a great new title for 'SKYWAYS') I have to say you may wish to heed bucks warnings. If you think RF has never lied to you or misguided you then I’m afraid to say that you are still delusional and are guaranteed with time like so many others before you to come to the realisation that you and everyone else at Link are underpaid for the bull you put up with not to mention the lousy conditions.
As for the 240 2 6 what the hell is that about? I’m sure your also capable of doing a Barrel Roll 1A dep. Are you sure the commuting airlines are for you? Think maybe you should be flicking across the skies in a caravan without radar at night in thunderstorms, seems more up your street. There again you possibly the calibre of driver Link can afford or for that matter get nowadays, the good days are gone and so are the people. :ok: |
350 till 8 ?
Try that one once with an EU outfit and you'll be sent packing..... in fact with some doing greater than 250 kts below FL100 is going to get you into deep poo! Different world I suppose...
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Sucks!
I have to agree.. Link have 10 resignations this month alone.. so I hear.. Guys on their way all over.. everybody going away! Link going to suffer bigtime.. all RF and JvJ's fault.. Oh and that chic pilot that is now somme a training capt... she went to RF and demanded that she be given the training position.. because there is nobody else!! - bypassed the fleet capt.. and chief pilot.. now we can see who wears the panties! Managment is all pupets... RF talks.. they all jump.. They get called "managment pilots" what a joke!! nobody cares what they say...
Careerpath... what a joke, they do what they want.. they will promote anybody as they feel.. the pilots dont even know what hit them!! Hear aswell that they are dropping the entry requirments.. now looking for guys and gals below 1000hrsTT... because the highertime pilots know better not to go there... there are 2 of the 5 JS41 training capt's leaving in the next month or 2!! all gatvol.. only 1ERJ instructor.. now with ass licking chick now also onboard.. now they 2.. for the 146..well thats a seperate clan that dont even mix with the poor JS41 drivers.. apartheid. I also hear the SAFAIR pilots causing lots of problems... always delayed... and complaining about technicals.. I must say I feel sorry for the poor pilots.. mostly good guys.. but you can't teach a old dog new tricks!! lucky Im not there!! MOO |
111moo
"They get called "managment pilots" what a joke!! nobody cares what they say..."
You would do the same if you were in their shoes. After all RF is the boss Also if you were the only available instructor you would have also been promoted quickly and some idiot will also be saying to you "only 1ERJ instructor.. now with ass licking chick now also onboard.. " Hey dude, always put yourself in someones shoes before commenting |
put yourself in someones shoes before commenting
no way dude, you cant just say that cos its far from true
now this time realy put yourself in their shoes and you will see that its nothing like a circus airlink does however need some TLC |
Maybe old RF should merge with Naturelink then RF, Briers and De Klerk can really F^&%k the monkey`s (crew)..he he :eek:
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Time will tell!!!!
Even taking cadets onto the embraer, WHY cause noone wants to come anymore, why get hired and sign a 3 year bond when the first one leaves next year!!!! With regarding 240 2 6 etc, who gives a a **** about that, that really doesn't mean you can poll like some of our Hardcore J41 capt thinks!!! Stick around with your blinkers on mate and you will see something, JUST REMEMBER THE LONGER YOU STAY EARNING PEANUTS WITH REGARDS TO THE OTHERS THE MORE DIFFICULT IT BECOMES TO LEAVE!!!! OH AND YOU MIGHT FLY A NOISY OLD CLAPPED OUT J41 till you die or have 15000hrs on type, HAHAH:D:D:D |
240 2 6 240 Knots - C2 - C6 - C12.....Oh Sh*t, STOP!!! :E Link have 10 resignations this month alone.. Got 2 Love the Global Pilot Shortage... :zzz: |
regarding "airlink promotions"
Just one observation, that thread of "airlink promotions" seems to be only about the embraer and j41 fleets.
What about the 146 drivers. Are they happy? |
It seems like they are happy although some would like to fly the EMB135 and have a chance to fly the avro RJ
Maybe moving across to the RJ may become possible if they can fly both types, that will be a win for them At last things are hapening for Airlink (Well done RF):D:D:D |
With another Foreign Airline soon to start recruiting in SA (within weeks), the times for RF will only get seriously tougher. But, there are sure to be other local operators that will also be caught unaware.
who? thanks fly safe |
cadets
Even more news... heard that 5 cadet pilot got the call a week ago to start 1st May at SAA... but link is stopping it!!! they now have to stay!!!
Guess what.. the cadets are the only guys trained to become Captains!!! - RF phone in another favour at SAA.. and now these poor cadets are stuck with Link for a little longer!!! Link upto their usual crap... I know for a fact that they have stopped lots of pilots from leaving in the past... they phone a few friends.. and BAM.. you dont get the new job because they need u!!! For all I care link is a waste of time... and will waste your career!! rather go somewhere else... atleast you will fly something that is usefull in the future! :p MOO |
111Moo,
so true, so true!!!! Let a few people feel cause they can't hear or read the writing on the wall, daar is groot K#K!! Thanks goodness a few left a while back and turned it down, best decision ever, quiet frankly I would rather fly just hang around on contract or wherever you are before getting into the link bus!!! If you hav a ATPL(or Subjects) SAX will interview you, they looking, money is good, good guys, well disciplined and you never read crap about them doing **** they shouldn't, excellent SOP's etc!!!! Smile ad Wave boys, there is another one on its way!!!! |
Don't get too cosy!
Fresh news. Rumour is that jvj has told a few boys that he has devised a new rostering/duty policy. Once you sign on you are his for the day. If your duty has been completed and they have an extra flight for you, you have to do it. Don't think you can just go home after your rostered duty. Sounds like that charter job in nigeria not so bad anymore. Also heard that a CA completed her duty for the day and got told to stay in ct for extra day. She refused( Because she has a life) and is now being called in for a disciplinary hearing. Soon they (CA's) are going to be unionised too. Good luck with your BS jvj!!! On a more positive note, one of the JS41 training captains withdrew his resignation and is no longer going to Mango:confused:
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Haha, only reason he's not goin is cause he is probably to embaressed to put on 3 bars and be shown that he is not as clever as he thinks he is!!!
JVJ, just hang your boots up, hope the ppl at link don't take all this crap from him!!! |
breaking rules again!!
the training Capt you refer to is actually next on the "list" to go onto the 146, and according to him, he can't take the salary drop to go and fly 737-800's (more that 10k for him).. a real pitty... now he is also stuck with them for life... and all RF and JvJ's crap...
also heard that thay want to bring the 'new' sign-on policies into effect which make you do your duty and then the rest of the time be on standby.. Already doing it with the 146 drivers!!! because they are so short on pilots!! heard at a mate that according to their opsmanual the combined experience of the flight crew on an aircraft needs to be in excess of 1000hrs on type!! - So all the 146 flights are illigail !!!! and most of the JS41 flights!! - like always Link breaking the rules to make the operation work!:= - The average time on type at link must be below 500hrs now... Like I always say.. a change is as good as a holiday!! so stay away! MOO |
The Airlink Circus
One of the training captains has just told me he had a call from jvj questioning his booking off sick:ugh:.I really did`nt know he was a medical doctor as well as aviation-advisor to the stars. Does this man`s talents know no boundaries? Someone in management told me that the wheels were not coming off at link....he said they were already off and the company is sliding along on it`s chassis! When the C.O.O is calling crew about booking off sick then its plain to see the degeneration into the abyss of chaos and desperation the company is finding itself tumbling into:{. OPS is an unorganised mess,with crew reporting being phoned at 1am to crew a/c to "solve" other problems at other bases.Signing-on is a bit of a laugh at the moment as well-very often the captain,f.o and hostie have different sign-on times for the same flight! The roster is said to be manipulated daily to screw crew over in order to make the schedule work.From what i hear about 15-20 captains short,10 f.o`s, on-going resignations(crew,ops and most recently the security manager,not to mention engineering staff).A once very nice, well-run company..........:(
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Link 911
all the above TRUE!!! the crew are all gatvol... and now that JvJ got his finger in the pie... he is really pissing off the pilots... from what I hear there atleast another 15 on the "to resign" list next month!!
Oh and now JvJ a medical expert aswell... what a circius at link! Guess that makes me an Astronaut.. They are even using EX-Airlink pilots to do their test flights... no employed crew avaliable to crew the "extra" flights.. and with the Propellers cracking... the JS41 will be not be flying much longer.. Maby thats what they need.. some of thier own medicine.. they screw the crew.. now they are being screwed... Its just a matter of time.. then we will see a huge mushroom cloud... Just Heard another Link 911.. on the radio.. and its a 146... another "help is on the way" aerie... normal ops these days.. Guys STAY AWAY!!! Link is bad news!! |
"THERE"
:rolleyes:dendronite:rolleyes: Where exactly is this "there" you are refering to? JVJ's new duty policy. You probably think that that so called policy is going to be bilaterally agreed upon:ugh:
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111moo
This is an old problem that is being monitored at the highest level. Those j41s are extremely tough and reliable.
They have served well and are going to contiue to serve for many years to come. The worst case is that now and then a j41 will have to carry reduced payloads all airlines suffer breakdowns etc so 911 is not a bad thing bring it on mr astronaought MOO - bring it on |
kiross
Why did you start this thread with some encouragement and later on your post is rather negative?
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Welcome ufecatun
ufecatun, welcome to the pprune world. See this is your first time you participate. Yes it is supposed to be positive and that is the sole intent. I suspect that I am not going to be able to give you a satisfactory answer. I suggest you look at previous posts about airlink and make up your own mind as to why that is. After you have read them, my best attempt to answer your question in a nut shell would be: Just trying to hold on to the dream!
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Boswell wilkie continued....
"......which is being attended to at the highest level".:D.Don`t make me laugh-the problem with link is at the highest levels.RF & jvj have lost touch with the realities of their employees and IMHO with the industry as a whole. The airline is functioning in pure desperation mode and being managed with a siege mentality. The shareholders need to get involved here and quickly.The tent pegs are coming loose...and its a big tent.and the wind is picking up...:ooh:
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TO a few of you sucking up in hope off......
I think its time you surelly come to light and realise the facts mate, ppl are talking about link, people in PMB don't even want to fly with them anymore, I personally know and have spoken to ppl that rather travel to durban and fly from there, there are countless delays, flights landing 4hrs late with pax that are fuming and when they land there is no freakin bus for them, no baggage handlers etc, this is not being negative, but surelly realistic, how would you feel arriving 3hrs late, missing your connection and not knowing where u stayin etc,THINGS are a mess there at the moment, take your blinkers off mate, NO AIRLINE IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS I KNOW MAKES YOU FLY THEN WHEN U LAND U GO HOME BUT ARE ON HOME RESERVE, prove me wrong on this, and also tell me who,we not talking about monkey operators. LInk is a big player in the field, but htings are not working, we could write a story on them, they screw new hires on salary, not paying them what other FO's are getting, they dont want to pay people longevity for work thats been done cause they resigned, please this is work done already, they must cough up. OPS, well thats even a bigger joke, I mean there is 1 guy that is as thick as a brick, try listening out and have a laugh at his RT skills. Decisions can't be made, the ops manager can't even count let alone organise ops, they manipulate rosters at there will, they are short crew, engineering is a F%^K up and they dont even have drivers to drive crew backwards and forwards. the list goes on.... The crew are great guysand gals, but i dont work cause people are nice, I have a house to pay and bills to honour, if you can survive on their ****ty salary then good for you!!! Just remember that people dont just work for money also, we need to be looked after and have a career, people aren't getting moved to the Jets cause roger is nice, please, they have to move them otherwise they will go, once hes got a few across the whole process will commence again of having to fight for everything. He could not give a rats ass about you and your career, he wants to line he's pocket but soon if he doesn't move a few across he's in big kak, imagine if 10 J41 drivers pack it in and 5ERJ capt they would be totally stuffed!!! If you can't realise that there is kak happening there, then you to dumb or blind or deaf but its time you acknowledge that there is stuff happening thats not good for people and most importantly the Company( If it folds, thereare lots of hungery mouths out there), by saying this, its important to get a career path etc, BUT THE J41 pilots must not screw their work partners just to get onto a jet, work as a team and stop being selffish about it!!! There is no way you can expect a ERJ/B146 fo to sit for 4 years before moving to the J41 as a capt and lots of other things as well!!! no airline works like this, if link gets a system going, people will be happier and not leave so quickly and they will have to jack up a lot of other things as well. BUT FIRST YOU ALL NEED TO KICK JVJ's KNEECAPS IN AND THEN KICK HIS ASS RIGHT OUT OF THE OFFICE, CAUSE THAT MAN IS A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!!!!!! he comes with a **** track record!!! Till things change, I still maintain that one should stear well clear of link!!!! |
buck2rogers69
buck2rogers69: CAN I PLEEEEEEEAAAASE BUY YOU A BEER?
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Monkey business
From what appears it seems that the sick is being bullied, the hosties are being victimised, the planes are falling apart, the crew is inexperienced and then JVJ wants to enslave the ppls by making inappropriate changes to conditions of service...
Where did JVJ and RF get their business savvy? The Bob Mugabe school of business? To make it worse they appear to be pransing about like the Emperor with no clothes. Maybe blinded by their own egos while the company callapses into a screaming heap. Ironically the solution is so simple... get rid of the one with the monkey brains for business sense. |
No joking!
FatFunny, no joking. I count at least 29 resignations (curret and eminent) and pilots that have left from our last seniority list dated 17 February 2008. That is from a list of 127. By my calculation that is nearly 23% of crew in a period of approximately 3 months. At least it will not be a very big screaming heap.
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The "PAWPAW" may have just then hit the fan!!!!!
Would be interresting to know how many have left in the last year, I guess more than around 50 people!!!!! oh and thats Aircrew, not engineers or ops or headoffice, OH BUT NOTHING IS WRONG AT AIRLINK ITS ROSY!!!!! |
The Crew Shortage will Bite...
It bit REX in Australia for the same reasons it is going to bite Link in the VERY near future. Modus Operandi at REX (Post Crew Shortage): 1 Hour before 1st sign-on it is decided which flights will be manned and which will be cancelled for the day. :zzz: |
b2r69
NO AIRLINE IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS I KNOW MAKES YOU FLY THEN WHEN U LAND U GO HOME BUT ARE ON HOME RESERVE Then again, you might get used once every 2 or 3 years for 2 extra legs and at SAX you get paid extra......... |
Ok, nice, but a least u get paid a bit extra and looked after, link u get a kick in the ass and expected to do it tomorrow again!!
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Ok, nice, but a least u get paid a bit extra and looked after, link u get a kick in the ass and expected to do it tomorrow again!! I think the chickens are finally coming to roost after the closing of the APA branch of ALPA. Good luck with Solidarity! |
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