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grjplanes 12th Dec 2007 18:44

To fly Nationwide now would probably be the safest you can feel in South Africa...knowing that the aircraft have been thoroughly checked, just a few days ago!!!
They have released their schedules that would be operated untill 22 December...basically all routes would be served once daily (except MQP), and JNB-GRJ mostly 2x daily and a few days JNB-CPT 2x daily.
Although the first few flights yesterday and today was very poor loads, it seems that it would be picking up tomorrow and over the weekend, with prices being higher. The 1 flight Friday JNB-GRJ is actually full.

JetNut 14th Dec 2007 07:26


To fly Nationwide now would probably be the safest you can feel in South Africa...knowing that the aircraft have been thoroughly checked, just a few days ago!!!

your logic baffles.:ugh:

Ricoffy 14th Dec 2007 08:57


be the safest you can feel in South Africa...knowing that the aircraft have been thoroughly checked
And the other carriers are not as safe. I beg to differ. :=

grjplanes 14th Dec 2007 11:13

My comment is only for the way the general flying public would be (and is expected by journos!) thinking currently...

I'm not saying it IS the safest in the country or safer than others...I mean you can FEEL safe about flying Nationwide. The general idea about Nationwide currently is that their aircraft is unsafe...ooohhh and the engine is going to fall off!!!
I've heard how people in a queue of another airline yelled at pax booking in at Nationwide "Are you crazy flying with them!" And this is a very wrong perspective of things, but it is people that don't know better. All of us here on this forum understand what is going on currently, while the majority of people only read or hear these things, and immediately have come to a conclusion!

So if there were more people thinking clearly, it would come down to say that I'm not worried about flying with Nationwide now, because that aircraft where my bum is going to sit for 1h30min in the air, has been cleared safe to fly! NOT saying that others is unsafe! Nationwide has a big mountain ahead of them in changing the mindset of the flying public now.

grjplanes 15th Dec 2007 10:36

Any indication of more aircraft being released soon?
I suspect the 727s and 737-200s would probably take a bit longer to inspect than the 737-500s?

Black Pearl 15th Dec 2007 16:18

Ish!!!!!!!
 
I fail to see your optimism regarding Nationwide’s safety? A leopard never changes his spots! VB will continue to threaten the crew if they don’t want to fly un-airworthy aircraft, contrary to International safety standards. He has no regard for anyone’s safety, only the bottom line. He is the master of exploitation and will continue to do so. As long as VB is at the helm of Nationwide I would not go near it! Fly Nationwide and play Russian roulette with your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :uhoh:

Whenwe 16th Dec 2007 06:33

I sometimes wonder if those close to VB will finally tell him to go and play with his "wielietjies" (little cars). Just like he often organizes the dispatch of others.

maxpwr 16th Dec 2007 17:07

nationwide
 
Is everything back to normal at Nationiwde ?All routes going ?

Maurice Chavez 17th Dec 2007 07:21


I fail to see your optimism regarding Nationwide’s safety? A leopard never changes his spots! VB will continue to threaten the crew if they don’t want to fly un-airworthy aircraft, contrary to International safety standards. He has no regard for anyone’s safety, only the bottom line. He is the master of exploitation and will continue to do so. As long as VB is at the helm of Nationwide I would not go near it! Fly Nationwide and play Russian roulette with your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really? I work for the man and never been told by him to depart beyond the MEL!!! He doesn't even get involved if the crew grounds an airplane....Playing Russian roulette with your life? Hahhahaha, idiot you are... Think twice before you post stuff here you don't know anything about and neither that you can back up. := := := :=

Skillie 17th Dec 2007 10:00

Anybody that can assist. Try and do booking on their website but throws it back as technical error with a lot of reasons. Maybe me with finger trouble?:confused:

Shrike200 17th Dec 2007 19:59

Unlikely. Nationwide has the most abysmal of the online booking websites, powered by the appallingly unfriendly Worldspan system.

And, what Maurice said. I suppose people could say it a billion times, and it still doesn't sink in. Anyway, here goes: VB DOES NOT WANDER AROUND THE APRON ANYMORE TELLING CREW TO DEPART REGARDLESS OF SNAGS. I really don't know how to say it any more clearly. The MEL is your friend.

grjplanes 17th Dec 2007 20:11

Anybody that can assist. Try and do booking on their website but throws it back as technical error with a lot of reasons. Maybe me with finger trouble?:confused:

That's usually what it does when flights are full, so depends to where and for when you're booking...ie: JNB-GRJ is full for the next few days...other routes most probably also, because of other cancelled flights' pax all being transferred to an operating flight.

Skillie 18th Dec 2007 01:02

Thanks GRJ Planes it makes sense. Looks like I won't make the family get together this Xmas in George.:ugh:

grjplanes 18th Dec 2007 05:29

If you still want to make it before Christmas to GRJ, there isn't alot of options left. Nationwide is full untill Christmas day with the first flight available. 1Time has seats left on 23 and 24 Dec for R1699, probably not for long...and Kulula only one flight left on 23 Dec for R1599 plus taxes.
Also keep an eye on SA, because they might have seats available at the last moment, because they have to use the bigger leased 737-200 in the place of the Q400 that had "the incident"...
BUT Kulula also have flights on 20 and 24 Dec from Lanseria, also for R1599 plus taxes (the cheaper taxes...)
Good Luck, although it's quite a price to pay!

four engine jock 18th Dec 2007 08:44

To say that VB make their Flight crew fly un-airworthy aircraft is a bunch of crap.
I recently had the opportunity to fly with some of Nationwide Flight Crews.
I must say ,they are some of the most professional guys I have ever seen.

Hope to see very soon the B727 back in the air.

PAXboy 18th Dec 2007 12:45

Further thread drift: On getting to GRJ, I guess it depends which is your priority:- To get there; To not spend much money; To not use much time getting there.

If you have to be there AND have the money - there are some flights. If you have to be there and don't have much money but DO have time ... then you can hop to CPT and take a bus up from there (eg the BAzBus). There is Link CPT~GRJ of course but the cost will nullify the saving of going via CPT, although it is a viable alternative if you have the money! It is the usual trade off.

I see that Link no longer do JNB~PLZ which would have been another. That's a pity really as it was a very pretty flight and arrival.

Skillie 18th Dec 2007 16:59

Thanks guys for the advise. Looks like I will be able to get to George either way. As you said it will come at a price.:{

grjplanes 19th Dec 2007 05:45

I hope you got sorted by now, because it seems by now there is only 1time on monday left, as well as Kulula from Lanseria on Monday, and SA available on Saturday with 732...good luck...and yes, at a price!

JET-UP-SET 21st Dec 2007 19:12

Hard times on everybody at NTW! Heard VB's getting some experts in, tooooo fix it ,what's up? PS can it be fixed ? Heard other oldies are returning to help:bored:?

JvJ 21st Dec 2007 21:05

NTW pilots
 
Please PM me if you are serious about working for a REAL airline.

beechbum 22nd Dec 2007 05:13


Please PM me if you are serious about working for a REAL airline
Thought you had left SAA......?????????
Sorry guys and gals couldn't resist!!!!!!! Chop!

Please can I, please can I.....pleeeeeeeeeeeeez....I want a job at your REAL airline so I can get screwed over by your antics.......:E:E
Will that come with a tub of vaseline or should I bring my own?????? As my salary will hardly afford me my flat in Hillbrow...but hey we could be neighbours!!!
Yay...then you can give me a lift to work every day.....yipeeeeeee!!!!
I can't wait....where do I sign up??????????:p

flyknight 23rd Dec 2007 21:06

Please PM me if you are serious about working for a REAL airline. JvJ

Guys, beware...if this is the JvJ I got to know, then rather become a second hand car salesman or make sandles on the beach somewhere :=


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