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South African Airways. The end.

Old 20th Apr 2020, 08:58
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South African Airways. The end.

Sad outcome after 96 years in operations
https://onemileatatime.com/south-afr...-firing-staff/ ....
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 09:03
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Sad news , good luck to the ones who deserve it .
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The backside doesn't know what the face is doing...
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 11:12
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The fundamental problem is that SAA is massively overstaffed with political appointees and jobs for the boys. The politicians will not allow them to fire their brothers, cousins, friends etc who are basically dead wood.
My best guess is that SAA will go bust and then be replaced by a properly professional privately owned fresh startup without the baggage. Possibly a subsidiary of another airline such as BA or EK. BA already have Comair.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 11:52
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I regret to say that the brown envelope big enough to pay off all the brothers, cousins, friends, MP's, etc has not been made yet.

Neither will they permit the creation of a subsidiary of any airline in SA unless they can get all their snouts in the trough at the same time. (Fixed for MattyJ)

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No wonder SA is stuffed..in most other countries you put your snout in the trough not your feet
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That is an extraordinarily racist letter which should surely be condemned by everybody!

The concept of people whose family has lived in South Africa for multiple generations not being (South) African is absurd.

Can I suggest contemplating that letter if it were written for, say, British Airways, breaking down the pilot group by race, and what the response would be?
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:09
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TIA............
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Quite simply, disgusting (the letter!)
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:27
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What do you expect.
1. Its Africa.
2. Its not racist if it is written by a "Black" or a "Coloured" person.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:28
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That letter nicely sums up why S Africa as a country is in a mess. A shame with leaders like that in a country with many resources.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:31
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What is a "coloured" individual the letter talks about?
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:36
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"Coloured" - Mixed Race

One could comment on the messaging inferred by the Race listing order in the letter.
But that would be racist

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Originally Posted by Imagegear View Post
"Coloured" - Mixed Race

One could comment on the messaging inferred by the Race listing order in the letter.
But that would be racist

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Black is best of course.

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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:43
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What is a "coloured" individual the letter talks about?
When I used to live and work in Africa, a coloured person (or Cape Coloureds [Kaapse Kleurling in Afrikaans] as I knew them) were mixed race persons of African, European and Asian heritage.

The term "coloured" is currently treated as a neutral description in Southern Africa, classifying people of mixed race ancestry.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:47
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Apartheid the other way around this time? That is not true progress it seems.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 16:52
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Originally Posted by Douglas Bahada View Post
What do you expect.
1. Its Africa.
2. Its not racist if it is written by a "Black" or a "Coloured" person.
No-one familiar with post Mandela South Africa would be the least bit surprised by this.
You are so right unfortunately. Never lived in that part of the world, so I wasn't expecting it and I was shocked to read it!
Trying to protect / secure / save your job is one thing (which is understandable), but using racist categorization for it, is pathetic to say the least.
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Disgusting to read. But absolutely no surprise.
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Not only their national airline going down the tubes, but in the coming decades the rest of the country is likely to go the same way, with the ultimate benefactors being the Chinese Communist Party.
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