Arik Air Again!!
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From: RVSM Airspace
The DR. CAPT. has set another record
Heard the news about the A330 fine which broke within the last 72hrs?
N25, 000 000 fine to Arik for Dr. Capt. Randy flying his shiny new A330 without a valid license.....heard his nickname is now "Zebra" on account of all the stripes he now has.
N25, 000 000 fine to Arik for Dr. Capt. Randy flying his shiny new A330 without a valid license.....heard his nickname is now "Zebra" on account of all the stripes he now has.
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From: london,uk.
l believe this thread is about payday at Arik air. It may not be appropriate to discuss the individual involved in the A33O issue. Also just for clarification,the 500b naira bailout funds is not meant to be given to the airlines directly. The indebted airlines are being encouraged to restructure their debts at a favourable 7% interest rate instead of the prevailing rates of btw 17-20%. The govt pays the difference directly to the banks. The airlines benefit by having reduced interest payments ,freeing capital for other things e.g salaries.The banks benefit by having huge injection of capital into the system stabilizing some banks who are strained as a result of over exposure to indebted airlines. The rest of the economy benefit by the banks ability to resume lending.
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From: LASGIDI
The indebted airlines are being encouraged to restructure their debts at a favourable 7% interest rate instead of the prevailing rates of btw 17-20%. The govt pays the difference directly to the banks. The airlines benefit by having reduced interest payments ,freeing capital for other things e.g salaries.The banks benefit by having huge injection of capital into the system stabilizing some banks who are strained as a result of over exposure to indebted airlines
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From: Chech republic
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A Few questions if I may...
1) Is this pay issue for expats only?
2) Who is running airline/COO/DFO are they all in out etc?
3) Is father or son in charge?
4) What happened to J. Holt?
5) How is life style in Lagos - safe enough to bring familY?
6) Who does the maintenance in house ?
Thanks,
Lastly did you get paid this month yet?
1) Is this pay issue for expats only?
2) Who is running airline/COO/DFO are they all in out etc?
3) Is father or son in charge?
4) What happened to J. Holt?
5) How is life style in Lagos - safe enough to bring familY?
6) Who does the maintenance in house ?
Thanks,
Lastly did you get paid this month yet?
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From: LGW
R E S P E C T....had to spell it out cos they don't know what it means at Arik!
Having packed in a decent job as SCCM with a well respected and stable UK regional operator, I foolishly decided to join Arik at the start of April to be trained up as cabin crew on their A330 operation. Now, I don't regret many things I have done in my 40 years, but this was one of them!
The 'initial conversion' course was a joke; 7 days which you could actually have done in 2. And once the 'course' was over, we were told we had to go to LOS for the NCAA exam so we waited....and waited.....and waited. Emails and phone calls to ask what was happening went unanswered. But still we waited. Then, a phone call. Allelujah! But no. It was a call telling us the company had decided to go for one A330 not two and unless we accepted a change to our contracts to spend up to 20 nights away from home, we MAY loose our jobs. So, I accept the change. And then I wait....and wait some more.
THEN, a contract arrives 8 weeks after starting with the company. Great! We're getting somewhere! So then we wait.....Until we get another phone call.....telling me I'm redundant. Oh, I forgot to mention that our May paycheck arrived 5 days late!
I have worked in the big bad world for over 20 years since leaving education and without doubt Arik is the biggest shower of !!!!! I have ever worked for. They lye, they fail to communicate....and before you all rush to tell me that's how Nigeria works, I'm talking about the UK operation!
I still have friends that are working for them and believe you me, I do feel sorry for them. Fortunately I have now got another job, outside of aviation. If any of you are considering Arik then let me give you my advice.....
DON'T DO IT! Sweep the streets, work on a check out at your local supermarket, work behind a bar - anything but waste your time with this bunch. They stink!
The 'initial conversion' course was a joke; 7 days which you could actually have done in 2. And once the 'course' was over, we were told we had to go to LOS for the NCAA exam so we waited....and waited.....and waited. Emails and phone calls to ask what was happening went unanswered. But still we waited. Then, a phone call. Allelujah! But no. It was a call telling us the company had decided to go for one A330 not two and unless we accepted a change to our contracts to spend up to 20 nights away from home, we MAY loose our jobs. So, I accept the change. And then I wait....and wait some more.
THEN, a contract arrives 8 weeks after starting with the company. Great! We're getting somewhere! So then we wait.....Until we get another phone call.....telling me I'm redundant. Oh, I forgot to mention that our May paycheck arrived 5 days late!
I have worked in the big bad world for over 20 years since leaving education and without doubt Arik is the biggest shower of !!!!! I have ever worked for. They lye, they fail to communicate....and before you all rush to tell me that's how Nigeria works, I'm talking about the UK operation!
I still have friends that are working for them and believe you me, I do feel sorry for them. Fortunately I have now got another job, outside of aviation. If any of you are considering Arik then let me give you my advice.....
DON'T DO IT! Sweep the streets, work on a check out at your local supermarket, work behind a bar - anything but waste your time with this bunch. They stink!
Mistrust in Management
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From: UK
Soube
As Oyindo, I'm also very sorry you had that awful experience.
The fact is that no senior non flying local management at Arik have any respect whatsoever for any employee be they flight crew, cabin crew or sweeper of the hangar floor. It is the local culture here that sadly prevails and is evident in all employment. The same is true as I see it of the local employees here in the hotels - the boss is king and he/she cares nothing for the welfare of his/her employees.
I'm very sorry that you gave up employment with I assume Flybe - perhaps there is a chance that they may take you back? I flew a contract with AEU for Flybe on the 737 based at Exeter and Brum - very friendly and professional Cabin Crew.
I wish you all the best for the future.
Kind regards
Exeng
The fact is that no senior non flying local management at Arik have any respect whatsoever for any employee be they flight crew, cabin crew or sweeper of the hangar floor. It is the local culture here that sadly prevails and is evident in all employment. The same is true as I see it of the local employees here in the hotels - the boss is king and he/she cares nothing for the welfare of his/her employees.
I'm very sorry that you gave up employment with I assume Flybe - perhaps there is a chance that they may take you back? I flew a contract with AEU for Flybe on the 737 based at Exeter and Brum - very friendly and professional Cabin Crew.
I wish you all the best for the future.
Kind regards
Exeng
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From: London
sorry to hear about that. out of interest how many crew were made redundant, and why were you chosen? have many crew took the contract to work in Nigeria? if so are they all still there or did they leave?
there were a few crew who left BMI also, weren't there? do you know if they were made redundant? how much redundancy pay did you get?
thanks
there were a few crew who left BMI also, weren't there? do you know if they were made redundant? how much redundancy pay did you get?
thanks
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From: lagos
JAMES TAYLOR
1) Is this pay issue for expats only? not really,locals affected
2) Who is running airline/COO/DFO are they all in out etc? H.E AJ rules
3) Is father or son in charge? Both
4) What happened to J. Holt? Bolted away
5) How is life style in Lagos - safe enough to bring familY? Hmm depends on who's asking
6) Who does the maintenance in house ? LUFTHANSA TECHNIC
Thanks,
Lastly did you get paid this month yet?Referring to june? its on its way!!
1) Is this pay issue for expats only? not really,locals affected
2) Who is running airline/COO/DFO are they all in out etc? H.E AJ rules
3) Is father or son in charge? Both
4) What happened to J. Holt? Bolted away
5) How is life style in Lagos - safe enough to bring familY? Hmm depends on who's asking
6) Who does the maintenance in house ? LUFTHANSA TECHNIC
Thanks,
Lastly did you get paid this month yet?Referring to june? its on its way!!
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From: Emirates Living - The Meadows
FAO James Taylor
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A Few questions if I may...
1) Is this pay issue for expats only?
A Few questions if I may...
1) Is this pay issue for expats only?
2) Who is running airline/COO/DFO are they all in out etc?
3) Is father or son in charge?
4) What happened to J. Holt?
5) How is life style in Lagos - safe enough to bring familY?
If you come here, take a look and then decide to move your family to this place then you should not have a Class 1 medical as you cannot be entirely sane.
6) Who does the maintenance in house ?
Thanks,
Lastly did you get paid this month yet?
Lastly did you get paid this month yet?
If you are considering coming here PM a few Arik pilots, as unless you are unemployed then this is not the way forward for any pilot much less an expat right now.
With the NCAA change in hours required from Expat pilots. If you have the hours to come here you have the hours to go to Turkish.
If you drive 737s right now PM me I'll swap with you.
VT
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From: on the beach
At the risk of getting royally shot down I have to ask the following question.
Why in Gods name would any sane expat person leave a well paid secure job to join ARIK (or, for that matter, any airline in Nigeria, or for that matter any Nigerian company)?
Has the world gone mad or has no-one told these people what goes on in Nigeria. To my mind, they are one step away from "you got what you deserved".
Sorry if this sounds harsh but unless Nigerian companies have changed dramatically over the last 10 years, this isn't something that should have taken them completely by surprise.
Why in Gods name would any sane expat person leave a well paid secure job to join ARIK (or, for that matter, any airline in Nigeria, or for that matter any Nigerian company)?
Has the world gone mad or has no-one told these people what goes on in Nigeria. To my mind, they are one step away from "you got what you deserved".
Sorry if this sounds harsh but unless Nigerian companies have changed dramatically over the last 10 years, this isn't something that should have taken them completely by surprise.
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From: In transit
At the risk of getting royally shot down I have to make the following observation ....
I was asked to do some consultancy work in Nigeria, for a Nigerian company. I replied to the intermediary concerned saying simply that I was not interested in going to Nigeria nor in working for a Nigerian company and would they please not waste their time or mine offering me any further work in Nigeria.
Whether intentionally or not I don't know, but they forwarded my reply to the Nigerian prinicipal who emailed me stating that I was now 'person non gratia (sic) with them due to my rascism (sic)'. I have lost no sleep over this but had many a good chuckle over it.
I was asked to do some consultancy work in Nigeria, for a Nigerian company. I replied to the intermediary concerned saying simply that I was not interested in going to Nigeria nor in working for a Nigerian company and would they please not waste their time or mine offering me any further work in Nigeria.
Whether intentionally or not I don't know, but they forwarded my reply to the Nigerian prinicipal who emailed me stating that I was now 'person non gratia (sic) with them due to my rascism (sic)'. I have lost no sleep over this but had many a good chuckle over it.
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From: Emirates Living - The Meadows
You have obviously had an easy paper round
At the risk of getting royally shot down I have to ask the following question.
Why in Gods name would any sane expat person leave a well paid secure job to join ARIK (or, for that matter, any airline in Nigeria, or for that matter any Nigerian company)?
Why in Gods name would any sane expat person leave a well paid secure job to join ARIK (or, for that matter, any airline in Nigeria, or for that matter any Nigerian company)?
It is real simple do or die stuff, very very few people are here by choice and we leave the moment we can get something else that pays. You PM me a job and I will start tomorrow, anywhere else in the world. I think I speak for many of my colleagues.
VT