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Nope, I have never flown a twotter, so I guess I am unfamiliar with it.
BUT! It doesnt matter if its a 737 or a C172.. if the law says you need a means of measuring outside air temperature under IFR flight rules then the same rule applies regardless. MEL or no MEL.
Temperature could be 40 degress C on the ground and the flight at 3000ft in 34 degrees.. still makes no difference.. The law still applies doesnt it?
But hey, I was only assuming this was an IFR flight.. if it was not, then this guy was totally unreasonable...
BUT! It doesnt matter if its a 737 or a C172.. if the law says you need a means of measuring outside air temperature under IFR flight rules then the same rule applies regardless. MEL or no MEL.
Temperature could be 40 degress C on the ground and the flight at 3000ft in 34 degrees.. still makes no difference.. The law still applies doesnt it?
But hey, I was only assuming this was an IFR flight.. if it was not, then this guy was totally unreasonable...
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I am just going on what was said in the original post "the OAT gauge came off while in the field". (to me, this means broken?)
Doesnt stipulate that he still had it with him in a serviceable condition, to be able to stick it out the window.
Maybe you guys know more about the story....
Doesnt stipulate that he still had it with him in a serviceable condition, to be able to stick it out the window.
Maybe you guys know more about the story....
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It is a pretty robust little item with no moving parts aside from the pointer linked to the bimetallic coil. I am guessing when I say that it probably just came loose and fell into the cockpit, annoying but so what?
No joke, you really could just slide the window open and stick the probe out into the passing breeze if you even cared to. The temperature inside, in flight, is going to be pretty close to the temperature outside in any case, given that your average Twotter is about as drafty as an old shed.
No joke, you really could just slide the window open and stick the probe out into the passing breeze if you even cared to. The temperature inside, in flight, is going to be pretty close to the temperature outside in any case, given that your average Twotter is about as drafty as an old shed.
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Hey guys!
Sorry for off topic...
I'm looking for a Zimex Pilot. Would like to ask some questions.
If anyone is willing to share some information, please contact me via pm or email finalchecklist [at] googlemail.com
Thanks in advance...
Once again sorry for OT.
All the best
Max
Sorry for off topic...
I'm looking for a Zimex Pilot. Would like to ask some questions.
If anyone is willing to share some information, please contact me via pm or email finalchecklist [at] googlemail.com
Thanks in advance...
Once again sorry for OT.
All the best
Max
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Well...
I had advanced to a Transport Category Airplane, when we used to moan if the cockpit got up to 25 degrees C. If I wanted a cup of tea I just pushed a button and, Presto! it was there. Each take-off was guaranteed to be a winner whether or not one of the donkeys decided to drop dead or not...
Then ugly reality intervened and after a while I found myself back in a drafty shed. If it was 50 degrees outside then it was at least 51 degrees inside. If it was raining outside, it was raining inside, too. I could push all the buttons I wanted to in there, when one or two would fall off and rattle around under the seat but none would cause any God-damned tea to appear as if by magic.
Take-offs were now down to the FAR 3 'suck it and see' method, when losing an engine might just result in doing a face-plant into a sand dune, when the accident report was sure to read 'Pilot Error,' plus, some of those engines were obviously tired.
Refueling was now a matter of pumping smelly old Jet A into two holes in the side of the airplane, instead of just setting a magic number from the cockpit and watching it all happen while you had a nice cup of tea in the cool breeze from the air-conditioning.
I am sure this tale of woe, something no one has ever had happen to them in aviation before, has caused you all to feel deep upwellings of compassion for chuks so that I will stop now before I break your hearts.
Then ugly reality intervened and after a while I found myself back in a drafty shed. If it was 50 degrees outside then it was at least 51 degrees inside. If it was raining outside, it was raining inside, too. I could push all the buttons I wanted to in there, when one or two would fall off and rattle around under the seat but none would cause any God-damned tea to appear as if by magic.
Take-offs were now down to the FAR 3 'suck it and see' method, when losing an engine might just result in doing a face-plant into a sand dune, when the accident report was sure to read 'Pilot Error,' plus, some of those engines were obviously tired.
Refueling was now a matter of pumping smelly old Jet A into two holes in the side of the airplane, instead of just setting a magic number from the cockpit and watching it all happen while you had a nice cup of tea in the cool breeze from the air-conditioning.
I am sure this tale of woe, something no one has ever had happen to them in aviation before, has caused you all to feel deep upwellings of compassion for chuks so that I will stop now before I break your hearts.
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Because...
My female FOs were university graduates and Algerian citizens. I was merely a degree-less visitor to their country so that that would have been entirely out of place, that is why!
No, tea was off; the most we could hope for was an iced-down bottle of water and we were quite grateful for that. Flying in the Sahara was one of those things I had always wanted to do but it definitely became a matter of 'been there, done that, got the tee-shirt!'
When you have seen one camel spider you have seen them all, really, and my last medevac was for a guy who had drugged and raped his workmate and then had a kitchen knife rammed sideways through his throat as payback. I ended up with this creep bleeding like a pig all over my Twotter, with nobody seeming to care if he died in there while we waited and waited for that promised ambulance.
No, tea was off; the most we could hope for was an iced-down bottle of water and we were quite grateful for that. Flying in the Sahara was one of those things I had always wanted to do but it definitely became a matter of 'been there, done that, got the tee-shirt!'
When you have seen one camel spider you have seen them all, really, and my last medevac was for a guy who had drugged and raped his workmate and then had a kitchen knife rammed sideways through his throat as payback. I ended up with this creep bleeding like a pig all over my Twotter, with nobody seeming to care if he died in there while we waited and waited for that promised ambulance.
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Bearli,
It will depend upon a couple things,
A) are you current on type (Y or N)
B) is DHC6 on a JAA licence (Y or N)
an N to either will probably mean a trip to Toronto and a bond. One year is the normal and hard to enforce if longer, if they are putting up big $ to make you employable they dont need you zipping off (hard in an otter i know) elsewhere
Having done time with Zimex before, when I went back the second time I was Y to both and no bond
Having said that the last ZIM contract i signed was 7 years ago so dont ask me for any details
It will depend upon a couple things,
A) are you current on type (Y or N)
B) is DHC6 on a JAA licence (Y or N)
an N to either will probably mean a trip to Toronto and a bond. One year is the normal and hard to enforce if longer, if they are putting up big $ to make you employable they dont need you zipping off (hard in an otter i know) elsewhere
Having done time with Zimex before, when I went back the second time I was Y to both and no bond
Having said that the last ZIM contract i signed was 7 years ago so dont ask me for any details
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You don't get a job with Zimex anyway, but with some crappy little Channel Islands mail drop company. If anything bad happens, your survivors get to deal with them.
I have worked for people from Jersey, from Guernsey, from Vaduz, Lichtenstein and from Nicosia, Cyprus without ever having met any of them in person, perhaps because they never existed except as a name on a letterhead and a brass plaque somewhere.
Just go talk to them in Zurich and try not to laugh too hard when you find out what they pay for what can be very hard work, even as a pilot.
Be sure to enjoy Switzerland when you go. It makes Germany look like Woodstock!
I have worked for people from Jersey, from Guernsey, from Vaduz, Lichtenstein and from Nicosia, Cyprus without ever having met any of them in person, perhaps because they never existed except as a name on a letterhead and a brass plaque somewhere.
Just go talk to them in Zurich and try not to laugh too hard when you find out what they pay for what can be very hard work, even as a pilot.
Be sure to enjoy Switzerland when you go. It makes Germany look like Woodstock!
