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Without stepping outside the boundaries of libel or defamation laws, it's surely perfectly possible for someone to write an encapsulated biography of the hero of this thread? Thus those of us ignorant of his antics but amused by the plot may be further entertained at the expense of one so notorious? Perhaps someone could oblige?
Machines however, are creations of man and thus beneath the respect of their creators. Without wishing to set a biblical theme, it's really just a question of taking the correct spanner to the right nut. As for the greatness of care involved in carting two hundred, as balanced against one hundred, meatballs through the sky, something about mafia, spaghetti and broken eggs springs to mind. But then again, two hundred letters of condolence take longer to write than a straight tonne as any British First World War general could have told you.
Passengers are, in their own way, quite an expendable commodity. They are, after all, self perpetuating. It's what goes on at the pointy end that's important and management generally is well renowned for not possessing the wit to realise that it's the pilots who create the jobs for the members of the board. It's the flight crew who, from a legal perspective, carry the can when slack budgeting, crooked book keeping, sloppy maintenance and wicked rostering inevitably achieve the tragic comeuppance which such ghastly practices engender.
As for the themed thread guy, well who knows, perhaps he flunked flight training as a youngster. Not everyone can be as entertaining as Norman Bates.
Machines however, are creations of man and thus beneath the respect of their creators. Without wishing to set a biblical theme, it's really just a question of taking the correct spanner to the right nut. As for the greatness of care involved in carting two hundred, as balanced against one hundred, meatballs through the sky, something about mafia, spaghetti and broken eggs springs to mind. But then again, two hundred letters of condolence take longer to write than a straight tonne as any British First World War general could have told you.
Passengers are, in their own way, quite an expendable commodity. They are, after all, self perpetuating. It's what goes on at the pointy end that's important and management generally is well renowned for not possessing the wit to realise that it's the pilots who create the jobs for the members of the board. It's the flight crew who, from a legal perspective, carry the can when slack budgeting, crooked book keeping, sloppy maintenance and wicked rostering inevitably achieve the tragic comeuppance which such ghastly practices engender.
As for the themed thread guy, well who knows, perhaps he flunked flight training as a youngster. Not everyone can be as entertaining as Norman Bates.
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As for the themed thread guy, well who knows, perhaps he flunked flight training as a youngster. Not everyone can be as entertaining as Norman Bates.
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Corruption in training
Rumour, has it here at work, that the lady who heads up Airlink's training (JVJ's pomp and inside supplier of company details) helps her friend who is also intimately involved with JVJ, by giving him the answers to questions he will be asked at a company position interview! Talk about corruption/nepotism/positions for buddies etc.... rife everywhere, I know, but this is surely a measure of Link management pilots then?
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Leadership Qualities
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Lager
What are you accountable for? When you fly you operate someone else's equipment, in their name. You have no financial risk, no reputational risk, no legal exposure, nothing.
The thread within this "thread" is a simple problem of poor leadership qualities that have gone unrecognized by senior management of Airlink including the CEO who may or may not be aware of the "health" of the company due directly or indirectly of untruthful information being relayed to him. However, this will not be a valid excuse in the opinion of the shareholders when it comes time to answer to them with regard to declining/poor profitability,................"thats why you were elected as the CEO" they will say!
Perhaps, in the light of the events within the company and now attempted fraudulent management interview practices which in fact have become public, (this site is open to worldwide perusal by pilots and general public) maybe its time for the CEO to take a serious in depth examination of the "cancer" affecting the company.
The compulsive underlying problem lies solely in leadership qualities, especially those being discussed at crew level. This does not however exclude the leadership of senior management in the excuse of not being involved. Here are some thoughts on leadership that underscore and expose the plight of Airlink.
1. Leadership is like a lid or a ceiling on the airline. You will not rise beyond the level of your leadership. When the company needs to be fixed, (if thats what they really want) the leader/leaders are fired!
2. Its NOT the position that determines the leader, the leader determines the position.
3. The essence of all power lies in getting ALL persons to participate. (Not just all the cavorting empire building buddies!)
4. Margaret Thatcher quoted: "Being in power is like a lady - if you have to tell people you are - you're not"
5. Trust is the foundation for effective leadership. (Not enhancing or enticing the exclusion of more knowledgeable staff to the point of leaving)
6. When it comes to leadership, there are no shortcuts.
7. People will naturally follow people stronger than themselves. Leaders therefore naturally fall in behind those whom they sense have a "higher leadership quotient" than themselves. (This principle promotes growth, and not decay.)
8. Mark Twain quoted: "Great things happen when you don't care who gets the credit" Great leaders gain authority when they give it away!
9. It takes a leader to raise up a leader. "It takes one to know one, to show one to grow one"
10. Leaders can't win without good athletes, but a leader can LOSE with them.
11. You can't steer a company if it is not moving forward.
12. When you become a leader you LOSE the right to think about yourself.
13.A leaders lasting value is measured by succession.
14. Activity is not necessarily accomplishment. He/she that thinks they laed, but has no followers, merely take a walk. (At the detrimental expense of others and ultimately the Company itself)
Good luck CEO.
What are you accountable for? When you fly you operate someone else's equipment, in their name. You have no financial risk, no reputational risk, no legal exposure, nothing.
The thread within this "thread" is a simple problem of poor leadership qualities that have gone unrecognized by senior management of Airlink including the CEO who may or may not be aware of the "health" of the company due directly or indirectly of untruthful information being relayed to him. However, this will not be a valid excuse in the opinion of the shareholders when it comes time to answer to them with regard to declining/poor profitability,................"thats why you were elected as the CEO" they will say!
Perhaps, in the light of the events within the company and now attempted fraudulent management interview practices which in fact have become public, (this site is open to worldwide perusal by pilots and general public) maybe its time for the CEO to take a serious in depth examination of the "cancer" affecting the company.
The compulsive underlying problem lies solely in leadership qualities, especially those being discussed at crew level. This does not however exclude the leadership of senior management in the excuse of not being involved. Here are some thoughts on leadership that underscore and expose the plight of Airlink.
1. Leadership is like a lid or a ceiling on the airline. You will not rise beyond the level of your leadership. When the company needs to be fixed, (if thats what they really want) the leader/leaders are fired!
2. Its NOT the position that determines the leader, the leader determines the position.
3. The essence of all power lies in getting ALL persons to participate. (Not just all the cavorting empire building buddies!)
4. Margaret Thatcher quoted: "Being in power is like a lady - if you have to tell people you are - you're not"
5. Trust is the foundation for effective leadership. (Not enhancing or enticing the exclusion of more knowledgeable staff to the point of leaving)
6. When it comes to leadership, there are no shortcuts.
7. People will naturally follow people stronger than themselves. Leaders therefore naturally fall in behind those whom they sense have a "higher leadership quotient" than themselves. (This principle promotes growth, and not decay.)
8. Mark Twain quoted: "Great things happen when you don't care who gets the credit" Great leaders gain authority when they give it away!
9. It takes a leader to raise up a leader. "It takes one to know one, to show one to grow one"
10. Leaders can't win without good athletes, but a leader can LOSE with them.
11. You can't steer a company if it is not moving forward.
12. When you become a leader you LOSE the right to think about yourself.
13.A leaders lasting value is measured by succession.
14. Activity is not necessarily accomplishment. He/she that thinks they laed, but has no followers, merely take a walk. (At the detrimental expense of others and ultimately the Company itself)
Good luck CEO.
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Not since Woodrow's equally important fourteen points has such a mayroshka been revealed to a quivering world. It's completely irrelevant of course. The aptitude of a CEO to disembowel his opponents should never be confused with the quality of leadership. There's no semblance of that on these pages is there? It's just straightforward nastiness.
Who is Norman Bates? He's the lead loony in Pyscho and a good man with a knife behind the shower curtain. He's undiagnosed as having had a pregenital fixation but certainly was the object of a great mother complex, perhaps even a dead mother complex. But that's Jungian theory for you, a trifle complicated for the masses.
Who is Norman Bates? He's the lead loony in Pyscho and a good man with a knife behind the shower curtain. He's undiagnosed as having had a pregenital fixation but certainly was the object of a great mother complex, perhaps even a dead mother complex. But that's Jungian theory for you, a trifle complicated for the masses.
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WorldCynic,
GET OVER YOURSELF, you are not Willy Walsh, or James Doolittle, or Charles Yeager nor Charles Lindberg or any one of the Wright brothers, you are a nobody, a number, nothing more.
I do not care for the names nor the great authors you quote, even thought you might quote it to your friends and relatives not involved in aviation, and they may think you are the original testpilot on the columbia, but alas....
I have lately done some flying in the States, funny thing this side is that most pilots shut their pieholes and do what they get paid to do, no matter if he flies a 152 or a G5, they are humble, friendly, helpfull, nice people to be around, they work their asses off, fly 1900 freighters single crew, from 40 degrees to minus 40, worse weather than you will ever see, and a very important fact, they earn on average $3000 a month, for a captain around 5000 hrs.
Sharing your wisdom with the world has been mildly entertaining at best, now be a good monkey and go and read the first line again.
GET OVER YOURSELF, you are not Willy Walsh, or James Doolittle, or Charles Yeager nor Charles Lindberg or any one of the Wright brothers, you are a nobody, a number, nothing more.
I do not care for the names nor the great authors you quote, even thought you might quote it to your friends and relatives not involved in aviation, and they may think you are the original testpilot on the columbia, but alas....
I have lately done some flying in the States, funny thing this side is that most pilots shut their pieholes and do what they get paid to do, no matter if he flies a 152 or a G5, they are humble, friendly, helpfull, nice people to be around, they work their asses off, fly 1900 freighters single crew, from 40 degrees to minus 40, worse weather than you will ever see, and a very important fact, they earn on average $3000 a month, for a captain around 5000 hrs.
Sharing your wisdom with the world has been mildly entertaining at best, now be a good monkey and go and read the first line again.
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The thread drifts worse than a demented oil slick in a hurricane.
Sure, in the States salaries vary hugely but they probably average somewhere between $24,000 to $120,000 per annum for a pilot, depending on rank and experience. Averages are open to manipulation because they are after all nothing more than all the salaries added together divided by the number of all the pilots earning them. A 5,000 hour pilot in the USA is perhaps in his mid to late 20s. He might not even have a lot of real experience if he came from the military. You'll might well find that $36,000 pa is a median salary for that age group? Of course there are far too many pilots who are much too young and inexperienced to be captains floating around out there in South Africa. Many of them think that they should earn quite serious money. This potentially self aggrandizing envy may be laid at the door of South African Airways where the boys and girls are seriously overpaid for what they do and where they do it. It's also where, I would hazard a guess, the pension scheme is unsupportable in the long term. It's not sensible to look at someone else's grossly inflated pay scale won through industrial muscle and negotiation and base one's own desired remuneration package on those inflated figures.
Sure, in the States salaries vary hugely but they probably average somewhere between $24,000 to $120,000 per annum for a pilot, depending on rank and experience. Averages are open to manipulation because they are after all nothing more than all the salaries added together divided by the number of all the pilots earning them. A 5,000 hour pilot in the USA is perhaps in his mid to late 20s. He might not even have a lot of real experience if he came from the military. You'll might well find that $36,000 pa is a median salary for that age group? Of course there are far too many pilots who are much too young and inexperienced to be captains floating around out there in South Africa. Many of them think that they should earn quite serious money. This potentially self aggrandizing envy may be laid at the door of South African Airways where the boys and girls are seriously overpaid for what they do and where they do it. It's also where, I would hazard a guess, the pension scheme is unsupportable in the long term. It's not sensible to look at someone else's grossly inflated pay scale won through industrial muscle and negotiation and base one's own desired remuneration package on those inflated figures.
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I wish one could quote the above TWO posts, because boys - those are two peaches.
Both 100% accurate, correct and poignant to the extreme.
Kronos and CC....may I please doff my cap?
Both 100% accurate, correct and poignant to the extreme.
Kronos and CC....may I please doff my cap?
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Hang not on infinite wisdom but rather on infinite appetite. Kronos is better known for being all devouring than all seeing. As for words that one could live by, were Kronos to have uttered them then, 'I'll bite your head off and chew your arms into little stumps' would be appropriate to the occasion.
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Mmmm.
Cheetah,
Correct you are sir, but alas, Greek mythology might be lost on the audience......every time I suspect this thread has run its course, another scrumptious snack wanders across my path.
Correct you are sir, but alas, Greek mythology might be lost on the audience......every time I suspect this thread has run its course, another scrumptious snack wanders across my path.
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NOTOT
Ask not what others can do for you, but what you can do for others....
Dont look directly at the sun.
Say please and thank you.
Shaking more than three times is considered playing.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
Two wrongs dont make a right, but three rights make a left
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.
Listen to kalahari, I suspect he has a point.
mostly shamelessly stolen from really great minds......
Thank you, now who's hungry !
Dont look directly at the sun.
Say please and thank you.
Shaking more than three times is considered playing.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
Two wrongs dont make a right, but three rights make a left
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.
Listen to kalahari, I suspect he has a point.
mostly shamelessly stolen from really great minds......
Thank you, now who's hungry !
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Peacefull sleep
KRONOS, I always wonder at chaps like you, those who are willing to stab their comrades in the back in order to further themselves in the aviation ladder. Do you really sleep well at night when you put your head down? "Well lets see, today I managed to destroy this part of aviating successfully, in return I will get rewarded with......." Maybe it DOES give you that warm fuzzy feeling in your tummy. One day when you're old and decrepit, looking back on your career, you'll be able to say to yourself, "Mmmm, I did that".
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Sleep
Dude,
Open your ears, and your mind, you have made the same mistake for the second time on this thread, as the saying goes, assumption is the mother of all
ups.... I am not your comrade, nor your peer, nor your equal, I do not need to step on anyone,nor resort to backstabbing, I am too awesome, they simply step aside in my presence.
Come walk a day in my shoes, you sleep when you can, between destroying airlines, demoralising superstar pilots, eating small children, drinking like a fish, smoking, partying and camping weekends with strippers, I sleep like a rock....thank you for asking.
here is a little gem for you,
What do you call a small pig? a piglet
What do you call a small pile? a pilot
Awesomeness awaits, to infinity and beyond
Open your ears, and your mind, you have made the same mistake for the second time on this thread, as the saying goes, assumption is the mother of all
ups.... I am not your comrade, nor your peer, nor your equal, I do not need to step on anyone,nor resort to backstabbing, I am too awesome, they simply step aside in my presence.Come walk a day in my shoes, you sleep when you can, between destroying airlines, demoralising superstar pilots, eating small children, drinking like a fish, smoking, partying and camping weekends with strippers, I sleep like a rock....thank you for asking.
here is a little gem for you,
What do you call a small pig? a piglet
What do you call a small pile? a pilot
Awesomeness awaits, to infinity and beyond
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Awsome??
"Come walk a day in my shoes" ~ No can do, they stink!
" you sleep when you can" ~ So I am right, you can't sleep...
" between destroying airlines" ~ you certainly got that right!
" demoralising superstar pilots" ~ No, just forcing them to leave the company to get away from your face!
" eating small children" ~ No, just driving over them.....
" drinking like a fish"~ your whisky tan gave you away, from the beginning.
" smoking" ~ it's what you do. Healthy arn't you now?
" partying and camping weekends with strippers"~ they come from your strip club, no doubt there!
" I sleep like a rock....thank you for asking." ~ You're right there too, you ARE a rock!
KRONOS= JVJ
" you sleep when you can" ~ So I am right, you can't sleep...
" between destroying airlines" ~ you certainly got that right!
" demoralising superstar pilots" ~ No, just forcing them to leave the company to get away from your face!
" eating small children" ~ No, just driving over them.....
" drinking like a fish"~ your whisky tan gave you away, from the beginning.
" smoking" ~ it's what you do. Healthy arn't you now?
" partying and camping weekends with strippers"~ they come from your strip club, no doubt there!
" I sleep like a rock....thank you for asking." ~ You're right there too, you ARE a rock!
KRONOS= JVJ
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Wow Worldcynic, difficult to imagine how your responses could get any more purile.
Again, if you want to know why JVJ et al treat you with such complete contempt then no need to look any further than the mirror. Yes, you are pathetic, no point blaming them for that, its not their fault.
Again, if you want to know why JVJ et al treat you with such complete contempt then no need to look any further than the mirror. Yes, you are pathetic, no point blaming them for that, its not their fault.
