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11 hurt in 1Time evacuation
Johannesburg - Eleven people were injured when they were evacuated from a 1Time aircraft that aborted take-off on Sunday, Airports Company SA said.
Spokesperson Unathi Batyashe-Fillis said the aircraft, which was destined for Cape Town from OR Tambo International Airport in Johannesburg, did not take off because of an engine failure.
"The pilot left the runway and stopped the aircraft at one of the airports' aprons. Acsa firefighters were already on scene and responded to an engine fire on the left side of the aircraft," Batyashe-Fillis said in a statement.
The 128 passengers were evacuated via the emergency chutes. Eleven were injured during the evacuation process, of which six were taken to a nearby hospital, and the rest were treated at the airport clinic.
Spokesperson Unathi Batyashe-Fillis said the aircraft, which was destined for Cape Town from OR Tambo International Airport in Johannesburg, did not take off because of an engine failure.
"The pilot left the runway and stopped the aircraft at one of the airports' aprons. Acsa firefighters were already on scene and responded to an engine fire on the left side of the aircraft," Batyashe-Fillis said in a statement.
The 128 passengers were evacuated via the emergency chutes. Eleven were injured during the evacuation process, of which six were taken to a nearby hospital, and the rest were treated at the airport clinic.
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Don't know the details. I worked for this company and loved it. I think they're a great outfit, but come on guys take the plunge and get some NG stuff. It may cost you but if you don't keep up with the rest of the world you ARE going to lose!!
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Just read this on beeld.com
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You know you are going to have a bad day if the air hostesses panic more than the pax. Could cost cutting at the budget airlines be putting pax in dangerous situations?
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You know you are going to have a bad day if the air hostesses panic more than the pax. Could cost cutting at the budget airlines be putting pax in dangerous situations?
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To be fair, this is by no means unique to 1time. Open any newspaper anywhere in the world reporting on an emergency evacuation on any airline and you will read that half the cabin crew were more spooked than the PAX.
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maybe what was seen as panic by the hostesses was actually them trying to get the pax to leave their cabin luggage behind as the pax were briefed in the pre take offf briefing and get off the aircraft.
what gets me is the press never get the crews side of the story and only the pax who are the ones in the wrong most of the time.
All airlines are doing the cost cutting thing these days and have problems unique to themselves but give them a break. This would have ended very differently if there was no training at all .
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what gets me is the press never get the crews side of the story and only the pax who are the ones in the wrong most of the time.
All airlines are doing the cost cutting thing these days and have problems unique to themselves but give them a break. This would have ended very differently if there was no training at all .
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Strange how inaccurate rumours proliferate. I had dinner last night with a friend who was at CPT airport in the afternoon and he'd heard that a 1Time plane landed at CPT after on onboard fire and that 15 passengers were taken to hospital suffering from smoke inhalation. Obviously complete and utter bollocks!
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Strange how the cabin crew are always blamed for being hysterical and how annoying it is when we do our shouted commands! remember the emergency landing a couple of weeks ago in the states with single crew? none of us were there and we don't really know what happened!! well done on evacuating the cabin with a few minor injuries!!!
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Smoke or Fire to rapid disembark or emergency evacuation
Attention all operators: take good note of this 1Time incident and beware that you are by no means immune to exactly the same.
Your captain you employ makes the call to emergency evacuate from there onwards all hell can certainly brake loose...no passenger is a well-trained aircraft evacuator! and therefore relies on co-ordinated crew; and availability of emergency exists- free from obstructions..etc.
Your captain makes this call based on his training but in my humble aviation experience to date I have come across two scenarios with built in possibilities of flaw one such decision is to rapidly disembark passengers or call an emergency evacuation? and the latter is the decision to emergy descent or initiate a rapid descent..? these "trigger happy moments" are underlined in manufacturers checklists: "EVACUATE EVACUATE".....COMMAND OVER PA. (CAPTAIN)
Well when you hear these words being shouted over the PA - the outcome is simple- PANIC...
In short: Employers train captains to use checklists from manufacturers that create PANIC.
Your captain you employ makes the call to emergency evacuate from there onwards all hell can certainly brake loose...no passenger is a well-trained aircraft evacuator! and therefore relies on co-ordinated crew; and availability of emergency exists- free from obstructions..etc.
Your captain makes this call based on his training but in my humble aviation experience to date I have come across two scenarios with built in possibilities of flaw one such decision is to rapidly disembark passengers or call an emergency evacuation? and the latter is the decision to emergy descent or initiate a rapid descent..? these "trigger happy moments" are underlined in manufacturers checklists: "EVACUATE EVACUATE".....COMMAND OVER PA. (CAPTAIN)
Well when you hear these words being shouted over the PA - the outcome is simple- PANIC...
In short: Employers train captains to use checklists from manufacturers that create PANIC.
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But it would be no fun if there was no panic. How would they sell newspapers?
Frankly, if I am sitting in an aircraft an get the command to evacuate, I am quite happy the skipper well understands the chain of events that are about to be unleashed, and as such, before making the call, he must have a good enough reason. A scraped knee and bruised finger is fair trade in my opinion. There have been enough previous examples that have ended up catastrophically due to delays in evacuation.
The problem lies with the pax. They do not listen to briefings, they are arrogant, they are ignorant and they all think they are better than the one sitting next to them. They all believe that have more right to life than their neighbours. If you want to have a squizz at a very representative demographic cross section of South African society, you need to look no further than on our roads. When I look at the roads and then look at the pax whenever I am sitting in the back of an aircraft, I realise that they are one and the same. And that - is fooking frightening. I am terrified of having to evacuate an aircraft with the load of typical South African passengers I see whenever I fly. All I can say is, they are very lucky that there was no serious fire/smoke sweeping through the cabin. Very, very lucky.
Cabin crew need to carry TAZERS. Nail each and every imbecile who is reaching for carry on luggage/not responding/being a dumbass during an emergency - there is no excuse > you are briefed and there is a safety card. Fookem too if they then don't make it out after being 'prodded'. They were willing to sacrifice the lives of others by not obeying the commands/briefings, they gave up their own right to survive.
Frankly, if I am sitting in an aircraft an get the command to evacuate, I am quite happy the skipper well understands the chain of events that are about to be unleashed, and as such, before making the call, he must have a good enough reason. A scraped knee and bruised finger is fair trade in my opinion. There have been enough previous examples that have ended up catastrophically due to delays in evacuation.
The problem lies with the pax. They do not listen to briefings, they are arrogant, they are ignorant and they all think they are better than the one sitting next to them. They all believe that have more right to life than their neighbours. If you want to have a squizz at a very representative demographic cross section of South African society, you need to look no further than on our roads. When I look at the roads and then look at the pax whenever I am sitting in the back of an aircraft, I realise that they are one and the same. And that - is fooking frightening. I am terrified of having to evacuate an aircraft with the load of typical South African passengers I see whenever I fly. All I can say is, they are very lucky that there was no serious fire/smoke sweeping through the cabin. Very, very lucky.
Cabin crew need to carry TAZERS. Nail each and every imbecile who is reaching for carry on luggage/not responding/being a dumbass during an emergency - there is no excuse > you are briefed and there is a safety card. Fookem too if they then don't make it out after being 'prodded'. They were willing to sacrifice the lives of others by not obeying the commands/briefings, they gave up their own right to survive.
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The problem lies with the pax. They do not listen to briefings, they are arrogant, they are ignorant and they all think they are better than the one sitting next to them.
However, what stunned me was on descent into Hobart, following the announcement that all electronic devices were to be turned off etc. the pax sitting next to me spent the whole approach texting on his mobile. If the weather had been anything other than CAVOK I would have called for a flight attendant as a friend of mine did when the pax next to him was calling on her mobile just as the aircraft was about to commence an ILS in very ordinary weather. In that case the FA spoke rather sternly to the offending pax who then spent the rest of the flight glaring daggers at my friend.
In reality pax think that it will never happen to them and that the restrictions should not apply to them either. It is about time for the airlines to start prosecuting for these breaches but of course they never will because of pax backlash. Perhaps they should just let them burn.
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With regard to the Quantas A380 engine incident today, I noticed on Sky that the Singapore fire services foamed the engine on landing, and pax exited the aircraft the normal way.
No emergency evacuation, as ordered by the 1 Time Captain.
Seems simillar situations between the aircarft to me. Different horses for different courses?
No emergency evacuation, as ordered by the 1 Time Captain.
Seems simillar situations between the aircarft to me. Different horses for different courses?
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With regard to the Quantas A380 engine incident today, I noticed on Sky that the Singapore fire services foamed the engine on landing, and pax exited the aircraft the normal way.
No emergency evacuation, as ordered by the 1 Time Captain.
Seems simillar situations between the aircarft to me. Different horses for different courses?
No emergency evacuation, as ordered by the 1 Time Captain.
Seems simillar situations between the aircarft to me. Different horses for different courses?
He also had a lot of time during the return to plan actions on the ground. It would have been pretty obvious that the engine was not burning.
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The initial reports in the media are usually inaccurate. I happened to be seated in the rear end of a 737 of a large domestic carrier in SA two years ago when it lost an engine on take off.
There was an extremely loud explosion, the aircraft veered violently from side to side and flames shot out the back of the engine, much to my sons delight!
Contrary to the normal media accounts the cabin crew carried out their duties flawlessly and the cockpit crew likewise. There was no panic or mayhem and we were escorted into a bay by a fire truck. Well done SAA.
There was an extremely loud explosion, the aircraft veered violently from side to side and flames shot out the back of the engine, much to my sons delight!
Contrary to the normal media accounts the cabin crew carried out their duties flawlessly and the cockpit crew likewise. There was no panic or mayhem and we were escorted into a bay by a fire truck. Well done SAA.
