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Old 7th Dec 2009, 13:49
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This from Flightglobal Third Airlink accident in three months as ERJ overruns

Third Airlink accident in three months as ERJ overruns
By David Kaminski-Morrow

Regional carrier South African Airlink has suffered another serious operational incident, its third in less than three months, this time involving an Embraer ERJ-135.

The aircraft aquaplaned while landing at George Airport, near the southern coast, while operating flight SA8625 from Cape Town.

Airlink says that all 30 passengers and the three crew members have escaped without injury. The carrier states that the aircraft "appears to be damaged".

Images from the scene show that the jet has travelled part-way down an embankment and come to rest on a road, with substantial damage to its nose section.

Airlink and the South African civil aviation authority identify the twin-jet as bearing registration ZS-SJW. Flight's ACAS database gives this as a nine-year old example last listed as being owned by Coronation Aircraft Leasing.

"Airport staff and trauma counsellors are with the passengers at present," says the airline.

Meteorological data for the time of the accident, which Airlink gives as 11:06, shows light rain and variable winds, primarily from the east.

George Airport has a single main runway, designated 11/29, with a length of approximately 2,000m (6,560ft).

The incident follows just weeks after a British Aerospace Jetstream, operated by Airlink, veered off the runway during take-off from Port Elizabeth on 18 November.

Airlink also suffered a fatal take-off accident on 24 September when another Jetstream lost engine power and crashed at Durban, killing the pilot.
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 15:50
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Thumbs down

How long before this outfit gets shut down?
Surely the writing is on the wall!
They say things happen in three's

The worst luck ever or the worst training ever?
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 16:09
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I'm just wondering if SAA can pull the SA code from them. This is a reflection on the national carrier all over the world. Remember all the agents and the public think its SAA that had another accident.
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 16:15
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I doubt training a major factor here.

the problem is the low level of experience brought about by the treatment Airlink pilots get from management w.r.t. Salaries, FDP's, overall working conditions which makes Airlink a mere stepping stone to bigger and beter aircraft and working conditions, this rubs of with low moral, fatigue and general lowering of flight safety standards due to the overworked and morbid flight crew attitude, and this in turn can lead to pushing the safety envelope either intentionally or unintentionally with results as we see...3 accidents/incidents in 3 months.
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 16:23
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Had it rained that bad this morning? what was the weather there at the time of the crash?
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 16:27
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Mmmmmmmm
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 16:34
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Double standards?

It took only one serious incident for CAA to shut Nationwide down for months which indirectly led to them closing doors. Now Airlink has had 3 accidents in a matter of months and nothing from CAA? Makes one wonder...
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 16:58
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Thanks Suitcaseman..... maybe if they had their own simulators in JNB they would do more training?
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 17:05
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Heard that the Capt is an experienced farmer
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I am glad to hear nobody was badly bent. I was back in SA 2 weeks ago, I am sad to say that company has a problem. Was just reading my own comments I posted after an ERJ went farming in Ndola

P.S. I have to get my 5c worth about the comment:
“Many of us would not even be flying the EMB135 were it not for the astute business skills of Mr Foster!!! Lets give credit where credit is due.”

History will judge RF and his “astute business skills”. Me thinks history will not be kind. It is a pity hindsight is a 20/20 science
That was posted in 2004
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 17:53
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Link has possibly grown more than managment can handle, lets remember who is at the helm ... Dear mr JVJ! Where he goes disaster is sure to follow!

Look at the photo's on timeslive and you will see that the aircraft registration is in fact ZS SJW and not X.
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 17:55
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Dear mr JVJ! Where he goes disaster is sure to follow!
I thought the quote was "lawyers" not "disaster", but the sentiment is correct.
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 19:51
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Landing Gate?

Am not familiar with Airlinks SOP's, but do they have a strict adherance to landing gates to avoid high energy approaches. I hasten to add, I'm not saying this is what it was but I do know a EB135 loaded, near sea level, with a wet runway (Braking action - Good) on speed should present no problems with 2000m? Reported light rain... I'm not familiar with the surface but... hey guys....?
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 19:52
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Airlink Swaziland was placed on EU blacklist so now it seems SA Airlink should maybe also be blacklisted? Oh, thats right. They dont fly into EU airspace. Its OK t kill us useless Effricans! So now maybe they have to officially change the name to SA Scarelink?
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 20:24
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SA Airlink should maybe also be blacklisted? ....
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So now maybe they have to officially change the name to SA Scarelink?
Now you are being a little unfair. SAA had a runway overrun in a A320 (IIRC), landed next to 03R in JNB in a 738 and then also the 346 in CPT. Comair had a little excursion in DUR last year, 1time had one in ELS and SAX missed the taxiway at GRJ with a Q400.

Granted, this a/c is a bit battered, but Link is not out there alone......
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 20:28
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Heard that the Capt is an experienced farmer
Tin-tin? Are you referring to Ndola? Same guy?
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 20:55
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this is not very good

Its very dissapointing to see that our airlines are having so many incidents or accidents, remembering that what we all talk about is not necessarly all the ones that the caa know about. The majority of the time we dont even know about the other incidents that dont make the news!

I hope that when the report comes out we can learn from it and try not do it again! A lesson must be learnt or else we will be in deep trouble.

I wonder if the ATC on duty got counselling, that must pretty traumatic to watch an aircraft going off your runway!
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Old 8th Dec 2009, 05:05
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Any MEL extentions on the aircraft?
Would hate to think they had anti-skid issues and the spanner
said just do us a quick there and back and we'll sort it tonight.
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Old 8th Dec 2009, 05:33
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Dear Nugpot

Jip...and he had a little mishap in a Merlin many years ago..
(Ndola incident confirmed)
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Old 8th Dec 2009, 06:41
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It does not matter which way you cut the thing up.
Any airline which has three accidents in such rapid succession where the lives of passengers were endangered or could have been endangered should be avoided by the thinking travelling public.
Far from bad luck, Airlink have been most incredibly lucky in the injury and fatality rate attending their safety record. Probably time for passengers to read between the log book lines and vote with their feet?
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