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Old 12th Nov 2009, 12:59
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RJ crash in Kigali?

Any info on an apparent RJ accident in Kigali?
 
Old 12th Nov 2009, 18:45
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Any more word on this???
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Did you check the link in the post above? Skypirate has posted another update there.
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Yes I did and I have a good friend who is flying for them so I am trying to find as much info as possible.
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Rwanda plane crash: 1 dead

2009-11-12 19:35

Kigali - At least one person was killed and several were injured on Thursday when a plane operated by RwandAir crashed on takeoff at Kigali's airport, officials said.
"I know that one person was killed and several hurt," Information Minister Louise Mushikiwabo told AFP.

She said the flight, that was heading for Entebbe in Uganda, developed a technical problem when it had almost left the ground. The pilot aborted the take-off but ran into the airport's VIP lounge.

An official at the airport also said the plane had developed an engine problem immediately after taking off.

"There were 10 passengers on board, including a baby and there were five crew members. They have all been taken to Roi Faycal hospital and their situation is stable," Ignatius Kabagambe, director general at the information ministry told AFP.

RwandAir had no immediate comment.

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Rwanda plane crash: 1 dead: News24: Africa: News
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Anymore info would be great.....thanks.
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Angel Kigali Crj Accident...

Parking plane crashes into VIP lounge, killing passengerNovember 13, 2009 - 12:15PM


Rwandan officials look at a Jetlink plane that crashed into the VIP lounge at the Kigali airport. Photo: Reuters

A Rwandair passenger plane bound for Uganda crashed into the airport VIP lounge in Rwanda's capital, Kigali, yesterday and killed one passenger, officials said.

Richard Masozera, director general of Rwanda Civil Aviation Authority, told reporters the pilot of the 50-seat jet reported a problem two minutes into the flight from Kigali and asked to land again.

"He landed safely on the runway and was guided by the marshals into the parking area," Masozera said.

"For some unexplained reason, the plane, from the parking spot, took off again at full power and ... took a right turn, unexplained, into the technical building," he said.

Information Minister Louise Mushikiwabo said the plane, reportedly a Bombadier CRJ-100, had hit the VIP lounge, which is inside the technical building.

Masozera said emergency services responded within two minutes of the crash, but one passenger later died of their injuries.

Jack Elk, acting chief executive of Rwandair, said the airline's best guess was that the plane "auto-accelerated".

"The captain could not control it. The plane did not get airborne again, it taxied into the building," Elk said, adding that the aircraft's black boxes would be studied by experts.

"The captain was taken to the hospital with a broken leg. He has not been able to give us any information so far," Elk said.

Its sad that happened we pray for the lost souls and God help all that survived.From Reuters look like the did take off landed and for some unexplained reason i will personally wait for the report later the Jet blasted off the parking slot,,,,?????

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Asn Accident Digest 2009-21

Date: 12 NOV 2009
Time: ca 12:30
Type: Canadair CL-600-2B19 Regional Jet CRJ-100ER
Operator: Rwandair Express
Registration: 5Y-JLD
C/n / msn: 7197
First flight: 1997
Engines: 2 General Electric CF34-3A1
Crew: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 3
Passengers: Fatalities: 1 / Occupants: 10
Total: Fatalities: 1 / Occupants: 13
Airplane damage: Substantial
Location: Kigali Airport (KGL) (Rwanda)
Phase: Taxi
Nature: International Scheduled Passenger
Departure airport: Kigali Airport (KGL)
Destination airport: Entebbe Airport (EBB)
Flightnumber:
A Canadair CRJ-100ER RegionalJet passenger plane, 5Y-JLD, operating for Rwandair Express, was substantially damaged when it struck an airport building at Kigali Airport (KGL), Rwanda. One passenger was killed. The airplane operated on a scheduled international flight to Entebbe Airport (EBB), Uganda. Two minutes after take-off, the pilot requested to return because of unspecified technical problems. The airplane landed safely and taxied back to the apron. However, when the plane reached it's parking spot in fron of the VIP lounge, the pilot reported that the engines had failed to stop and were running at " 100 percent power" according to the Rwandair Chief Operating Officer. The airplane moved forward, knocking over blast fences until it smashed through the concrete wall of the airport building. The nose gear collapsed and the nose was burried inside the building up to and including the forward passenger doors. Weather reported about the time of the accident (12:30 local, 10:30 UTC): HRYR 121030Z VRB03KT 9999 BKN030 24/18 Q1018 NOSIG= [Wind variable at 3 knots; unlimited visibility; Broken clouds at 3000 feet; temperature 24 degrees C, dew point 18 degrees C; 1018 MB]
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crj's dont have auto throttle do they?
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Some do, but it's rare to find one with them.
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 05:49
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From another discussion forum (from the link posted above):

Originally Posted by Skypirate
To compound the situation, a casualty that survived the incident died when the ambulance he/she was being transported in to hospital was involved in a motorcar accident.
and then, later:

Originally Posted by Skypirate
Sad news that a further three injured passengers who were occupants in the ambulance accident passed away en-route after the ambulance accident.
Cripes, I was a passenger in that exact aircraft 3 weeks ago when I flew from HKJK to HRYR...
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just imagine surviving a plane woopsie like that and then dying when the ambulance crashes. only in africa.... too sad
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Wonder how many Pax still had their belts on and were actually still sitting down? From the casualty reports not many I would think...
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Crj Acciddent In Kigali

Any further confirmation on what exactly transpired?
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 09:20
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bmabango....first post fishing....
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 12:58
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Hi.

Was there last night. Everything I heard was 2nd hand...

Plane came back with technical problem. Taxied in w/ marshaller and was chocked.

Engines went to full power, and the pilots could not shut it down. Jumped the chocks, and ended up crashing into building that houses the ATC tower. 1 pax died, capt lost a leg, and female FO lost both legs. Ambulance crashed (rolled over) on way to hospital.

The airport was closed for a couple of hours or so. It was RwandAir flight, with Jetlink markings (Jetlink has one or more planes in RwandAir markings).

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The ramp is about 700m or so across. From their normal parking spot, they would've had to turn right to hit the tower building (the right turn was reported elsewhere). Emergency vehicles and lots of people still there around 2300. Fire fighters did a good job of putting out fire, or else everyone would have died.

This accident makes no sense to me:
Why couldn't the engines be shut down?
Why didn't brakes stop the aircraft?
Why did it hit the building, vs. going into grassy berm that was straight ahead?
I hope it was a mechanical fault that can be fixed on all CRJs, and not the pilots' fault!

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PS-It could have been me. I tried to get hired at Jetlink. My buddy said they had a very good operation...very professional.
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 14:29
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There are 2 Engine Fire Push switches on the glare shield that will stop the engines regardless of the malfunction. The SOV's will all close and the engine WILL shut down. I am not sure why they didn't do this.....I have also done many engine runs at 98% N1....the Brakes will hold the Aircraft at full throttle....and the AC was Chalked....the emergency brake should have been set.....
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Okay, I've read it may have been a thrust lever jam. These are cable-driven fuel controls so it is entirely plausible that either one thrust lever or both became stuck in an open position.

Question remains- why did the crew decide to taxi back on to the apron in this condition. Better to shut down both engines after touchdown with the fire switches. The brakes must have been extremely hot and faded after a power-on landing and taxi-in...
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The CRJ 100/200 would be hard to land with the Thrust levers stuck in a position other than idle.......at 50 feet you pull the thrust levers to idle or you will float all the way down the runway....if it was applying much power it would be almost impossible to land and get stopped before going off the end ....much less what would happen to the brakes....you would quickly get a Brake Overheat master warning and the its possible the brakes would catch fire trying to taxi to the gate with power........something doesn't add up....we will see with the investigation......I have never flown a CRJ with Auto Throttles but I have heard that is is an option..possibly a malfunction if equipped?.......or a problem with the cables for the FCV....its all just speculation at this point...
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dzaaam! very unfortunate.
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