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Old 21st Dec 2009, 11:21
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We have a summary of the preliminary report in our briefing files (we operate CRJ 200's).

It states that the left engine thrust lever became stuck at t/o thrust lever position and pilots could not move lever. Right engine controls OK.

After return and taxiing to gate, the right engine was shut down with the thrust lever, but the left engine remained operating at close to full power. After parking and just before disembarking of passengers started, the a/c started moving and accelerated to finally end up in the lounge.

There is no indication in the report of the pilots attempting to shut the left motor down using the Fire switch and considering the fact that the motor was "still running at high power" in the bay, I guess that no attempt was made to shut the left motor down with the fire switch. I assume that the prelim report would have mentioned a failure of the electrical firewall switches.

It does state that they are investigating interference by the cowl strut with the thrust lever mechanism and also investigating the crew handling of the initial failure.
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 21:20
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Kgl Crj Incident

Plane Crashed In Building But No One Was Killed There.
Female Copilot Breaks Both Legs,she Did Not Loss Them.ambulance Crashes Enroute To Hospital.captain Breaks One Leg And Ambulance Driver Dies On The Spot.
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Old 8th Jan 2010, 12:50
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CRJ's are not banned in Rwanda. Rwandair has their own and now operational CRJ 200's which can be seen at Kigali. The Jetlink aircraft did land with one engine at full power. When you shut down an engine on an RJ, you lose hydraulics for inboard or outboard brakes. My guess is that the captain shutdown the good engine, lost inboard or outboard braking on already overheated brakes, and the rest is history. I don't like to critique or criticize other pilots but let's face it, this was an example of bad decision making, lack of systems knowledge and poor CRM. The captain obviously did not use the QRH which states that the engine will be shut down using the fire button. He wanted to shutdown the engine by spraying water from the fire truck into the intake??? Are you kidding me? The f/o supposedly suggested that the captain shutdown the engine using the fire button. My buddy replayed the event in the sim at his last recurrent and was able to land with one at full power and the other at idle. Flight spoilers were used and the approach angle was shallow but he got it on the tarmac(in the sim). A normal single engine landing is easier and safer which is probably why the QRH tells you to shut down the engine in question. Just my 2 cents and probably why Rwandair has their own CRJ's now.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 18:00
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Hey, after speaking to one of our engineers, we came to the conclusion that shutting down the engine would not have immediately caused a loss in hydraulic pressure to the A and B pumps. The B pumps would not have been on if the flaps were up but regardless, pressure should not have been lost. I heard through a grapevine that the engineer for jetlink pushed the jammed throttle even farther forward. I feel that I'm speculating too much and apologize. I still feel that there was a fundemental lack of CRM, sound judgement and systems knowledge.
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Old 16th Jan 2010, 17:53
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Does anyone know where this company got their pilots and who did their training?
This was such a preventable accident it isn't funny.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 12:21
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Hi,

The pilots involved in this accident are locally-recruited Kenyans, as are the majority of Jetlink's CRJ pilots. I believe the company trains its CRJ pilots 'in-house', with groundschool conducted in Nairobi and then sim training in Madrid or Berlin, all utilising company instructors.
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