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Old 20th Oct 2009, 09:20
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ERASER..
Hah! History...you are incorrect.
A simple quote will be sufficient I think.
The Great Trek

The historical events in 19th century South Africa are marked by the "Groot Trek". Starting in 1835, more than 10,000 Boers, the Voortrekkers, left the Cape Colony with their families and went north and north-east. The reasons for this mass exodus were their economic problems, the threatening danger of conflict with the Xhosa, who settled on the other side of the Fish River, and primarily, discontent with the English colonial authorities who didn't provide sufficient protection and had forbidden the slave trade and postulated the equality of whites and non-whites.

from this web site..

The Great Trek - South Africa History

The British anti slavery bills and the efforts of Herr Wilberforce are well documented.
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 10:56
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So you got your reliable information from the internet……mhhhhhh…..
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At least he didn't get it from Wikipedia, that mine of misinformation. Of course it has its uses, but it annoys me when people say : "It was on Wikipedia so it must be right." It's not the Britannica.

By the way, great repository of sick jokes here : Sick Joke Wiki - Sickipedia
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 14:24
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There's a big difference with operating an aircraft into Paris where French is also been spoken and operating into Kinshasa/Brazza or Luanda (Portugese). The level of ATC at these places is disgraceful to say the least and when it's mixed with the controller speaking to a local in local it makes for a dangerus flying.

There's more to been a ICAO signatory State than a signature. You have actually comply to the standards as well.

Unfortunately we will lose more a/c in these places until the standards improve.

DH

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Old 21st Oct 2009, 10:01
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With attitudes like this no wonder Africa has such a bad safety record.

Sorry for you MR but no airline worthy of the title, whether South African or from elsewhere will compromise safety at any stage at any airport. It it means taking it up with ATC at an appropriate time then so be it. Accepting the status quo will ensure many more passengers will die.
TAVLA, I agree that it is good to adress safety concerns through appropriate channels, but what was under discussion was suppossedly proffessional airline crews getting chirpy and sarcastic with ATC's on working frequencies.

This behavior is unproffessional and serves no constructive purpose and only adds to the existing mahyam and confusion.

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Old 21st Oct 2009, 13:47
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WOW!!!

Dear Mr.Hammer

Even from your first post you were TOTALLY out of line and your comments were uncalled for, especially referring to the "BOERS" as a whole and there attitude towards "slavery", then I'll let go of a couple of other issues too. If it wasn't for the Boers I am pretty damn sure you wouldn't have been here today. I don't want to know from what cultural background you are ,because I don't bloody care , but let me tell you 1 thing, I really do not hope that they would have to use your dental records to identify your charred remains after a mid-air in the Congo OK!!!, a tragedy like that just because you did not want to voice your right to English ATC services to help you create a picture of what the hell is going on around you in places like CONGO!!. At the end of the day you know just as well as I do that if you are not 100% aware of/or at least try to the best of you ability to find out what the hell is happening around you, you're gonna crash and burn. En ek hoop nie ons paaie kruis eendag nie, want met iemand soos jy wat geen positiewe bydraes tot hierdie forum kan by bring nie, en met absolute irrasionele stellings soos hierdie k.....k van jou!!! Mag ek jou dalk net moer. Sharpen up on the French dude, coz it seems like you gonna need it to keep your a**s in the air.
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 14:09
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Thread closed - guys when will we ever draw close & stop beating up on each other?

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