General Aviation in Nigeria

[eagleflier]

Hi All,
I need information on general aviation companies in Nigeria.
Been doing some digging and cant seem to find much.
Any kind of info is appreciated; name,website,email, tel. no.

[DA-10mm]

can't seem to find much?....go figure.
it's Nigeria, let alone most of Africa.
as your "location" is in Lagos, why is this a surprise?

[Shunanny]

Hi, it depends on what you mean by "General Aviation".
Piston single's and twins..NIL
Small turboprops a la B200 etc...NIL
Business and Charter aviation....Available


Yeah..you are located in Lagos, ........Nigeria or Portugal???????

[eagleflier]

Piston single's and twins..NIL
Small turboprops a la B200 etc...NIL

Exactly what I was looking for.

Does that mean there are no other options in Nigeria but the airlines for a low hour guy looking for work?

[baba70]

looks like that buddy, Nigeria stopped making 100LL many, many, many years ago.
so no juice for pistons

[Shunanny]

"Nigeria stopped making 100LL many, many, many years ago.
so no juice for pistons" amongst other things...but that is for another forum.

Eagleflier, there are a few companies which fly 30-50 seat turbo props (B-1900, E-120). Landover and Associated to name a few.
You actually have to get out there and do the rounds, sit under the almond tree (or has that been cut down) etc. etc. Get your face known.
By the way what is wrong with the airlines I do hear that some are taking on 200-300hr candidates.

[AlternativeProcedure]

Many 200 hour pilots go onto fly turbo-props at the very least, most go onto fly Jets, thats the traditional route for most Nigerian boys and girls coming back to the country or finishing from Zaria. Since I started there, I dont think I've ever heard of anyone going to fly pistons, maybe there are but havent seen any. Maybe the ones who finish at Zaria and decide to stay on as instructors. But there are jobs for higher performance aircraft if thats what you truly want.

AP

[eagleflier]

But there are jobs for higher performance aircraft if thats what you truly want.

That's exactly what I want but no one seems to be hiring non-type rated crew

Or buy yourself a type rating on a 737-300-up to 800, 777,

That brings us to the question,is it advisable?
Some seem to think paying for your own TR is a NO NO, but with the present situation in Nigeria, I'm strongly considering it

[AlternativeProcedure]

eagleflier, whatever you do, dont pay for a type rating. This was exactly the same scenario in 2005(but alot worse then) where the likes of bellview/chanchangi would only take a pilot if they were already rated. And the rating of choice at the time was 737-200, if you didnt have one you were nobody. Capital airlines had just stopped operations, associated only had a HS125, only one or two people managed to get into aero at the time, mobil was a no go area.

It all seemed as if the world was coming to an end. Trust me things are a 100 times better now, you have the likes of arik, virgin, caverton who all didnt exist at the time. And even when Virgin came, they didnt want low houred co-pilots like us at the time, so that was a waste.

The only beacon of hope was aero. And they eventually squawked ident and gave me a job. I started on the twin otter at aero and now I fly jets in Europe for a well known national carrier. Just be patient, get to know people, network, network, network and in the mean time get all your conversions done to the NCAA licence. Its very easy to let all the doom and gloom get to you. Someone will need you very soon, it may not be the big jet of your choice, but guaranteed, it will be a turbine aircraft and thats all you need to start in this game. If you get into a turbo-prop you will learn how to trully fly a plane and you'll never regret it. No rush mate!!!

[ls500]

Caverton

Well dont expect any hiring from Caverton anytime soon, they have been listed as debtors on cbn's new list, just the helicopter biz alone has more than 2 billion NGN outstanding loan

http://www.cenbank.org/Out/publicati...KS14102009.pdf

[DA-10mm]

what ever happened to N118KL out of DNAA?
nicest guys ever..

[bluehawaii]

SHIINANNY,all the weak and inexperienced pilots from Europe and America end up in Lagos Nigeria.

[chuks]

Oh, absolutely!

How long have you spent there, then, Mr Hawaii? Long enough to have met most of the expatriate and local pilots working in Lagos? I have to ask because that is a rather sweeping statement you have made. Can you back it up with any facts?

[DA-10mm]

bluehawaii, how did you come up with THAT conclusion?

we all know that Africa is challenging, difficult, and stuck about 40-50 years back, as far as their development of their aviation infrastructure...
it sucks, we all know. every man for himself, SLOP always helps...

[Cpt. Underpants]

Here I was thinking that "General Aviation" is the bloke whose account in Switzerland was frozen following his death in a Coup De Etat in 2005!

I've been offered a fair percentage of the frozen funds if I will assist in releasing the money.

All they want me to do is send them a canceled cheque, a signature, my passport details (photocopy preferred) and a processing fee of a paltry USD50,000.

I just don't know if it's bona fide or not...

[rlfrazier]

"what ever happened to N118KL out of DNAA?
nicest guys ever.."

Well I was the flight engineer on N118KL and after the company screwed me I quit and bought a 1-way ticket back to Houston, TX in July-09. Thanks for the comment thou.

I'm not sure what happened to the airplane thou if its not in Abuja it might be in Accura, Ghana

[Klogic]

811KL

N811KL is parked at the domestic wing DNAA.Call sign is expressjet and they fly often.

[zetec2]

Nigerian aviation query

Can anyone advise, does Express Airways Nigeria , run by Cpt Mohammed Joji still operate, they used Bandierantes mid 90's tried to sell them Let 410's , deal fell through but curious to know if still operating & what with, remember they did Government flights & mail deliveries around Nigeria, Paul H.

[froggy_pilot]

N registration in Nigeria

Can someone help me with this ?

What are the rules and regulations to operate a US registered aircraft in Nigeria and for how long is it possible ?

Thanks
Froggy

[chuks]

With the right connections you could probably fly an "N" or other foreign-registered aircraft for a long, long time. (N6802B might be a lucky number for this.) Without the right connections you probably would find this very, very difficult to do. Well, perhaps easy to start with, especially investing your money in a start-up there with the required local partner who will own 60% of your venture. Wait a year and then see what happens.

I think the rules say "six months" but I am not sure about that one and anyway it isn't the rules you really have to worry about but the people interpreting and applying the rules. Are you new to Nigeria? I only ask because you seem to attach undue importance to the Nigerian rules without thinking about the people you will meet there, the Nigerians and their special sort of reality.

Just "wait small" and a few will be along to tell you what a wonderful place it is and how you can make a small fortune there. (It's easy; all you have to do is start with a large one!)