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Two Air Mishaps Averted In Lagos And Abuja

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Old 29th Jan 2009, 19:25
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QUOTE BALEWA;Arik is solely funded by an international corporation, one of the largest in the world with a lot of business interest in the aviation sector and thats it, Johnson facilitated their entry into the African Aviation business and thats all.
Actually they have been in Nigeria but doing business in another area.

Just curious,who are this,and what prior experience in aviation?
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 20:17
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You have to be joking...

Where but in Nigeria should you find a major international airline without its funding sources being clearly documented and hardly ever someone accused of major fraud in sight? Come on! That is part of the approval process for the issuance of an Air Operator's Certificate, is it not?

Here Balewa is telling us that Arik is owned or perhaps part-owned by some mysterious entity he cannot name. Is that not rather weird? Let us take a wild guess at the name: Rockson Engineering Company Ltd. Where did I come up with that one from? Did I get that right? Can I claim my five pounds?

You want to know who owns British Airways, Lufthansa, practically any major airline, well, you just look that information up! The travelling public have a right to know that an operation is financially solid, something the regulators look after rather strictly when they are doing their job!

Why do you suppose Alitalia was about to be shut down recently? "Lack of proper finance," is why!

Time will tell on this one but my bet is on this whole Arik deal being more-or-less fraudulent. It stinks! I am not losing any sleep over this; it is just an idea I have that comes from a few of the deals I have seen go down in Nigeria. Perhaps things have changed out of all recognition since late 2005; I really have no idea and I certainly do not wish ill to anyone working for Arik; given the chance my trotters would be right there in that particular trough.

LJT, you rock, dude! Love the emoticons! You hurt my feelings, though, by accusing me of "bashing." Well that and the horrid seeing-to you give our common heritage, the English language. Tsk-tsk! What would Chinua Achebe say?

Bitching, needling, whining and moaning and occasionally employing my secret weapon, being so boringly pedantic that those reading my prose fall into such a slumber before the display that they go into estivation (when I do this I have to be careful to type the stuff without looking at the screen lest I self-destruct): these are all things I do but "bashing?" Never!

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Old 30th Jan 2009, 01:51
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LJT,

As an exercise log onto any airline's website and book both return and one way tickets from anywhere to anywhere and you will find that a one-way ticket is ALWAYS a lot more expensive than a return.
I am not sure why it's like that but it is not just BA picking on Nigerians, believe me. My boss paid almost double on a one-way LOS-JNB for me when I had to get home for an emergency.
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 11:29
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unstable load,
I beg to differ.
You may say that it makes more financial sense to purchase a return ticket, but a one way is always cheaper. Even if its by only a couple of quid.
More times than you can count? One way tickets are cheaper.
The ticket i referred to was bought because it was slightly cheaper than a return and i had no use for the return leg; So, why not save a few 's.
Before i decided to make that statement, i had checked. I always do.
That way, i can talk without feeling like i have exaggerated anything.
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 13:11
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LJT,

a one way is always cheaper. Even if its by only a couple of quid.
Following your post to ul, I have just checked a variety of airline direct booking websites and had the following result using a one-way departure date of 11 February and return of 25 March:

BA London - Lagos one way, 642 - return 446.30

Virgin Atlantic London - Lagos one way, 683.20 - return 507.80

Air France (same dates) Paris - Lagos one way 3481.76 - return 800.35

Lufthansa Frankfurt - Lagos one way 1762.80, - return 717.60

Bellview quoted $750 one way, but a one month economy class return at $849

That seems to comprehensively show that your checking is not very thorough - maybe you only looked at the Bellview site
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 13:23
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More times than you can count?
Seeing as you're so good at checking, please check my post to see where I wrote that.

That way, i can talk without feeling like i have exaggerated anything.
With the exception of putting words in my mouth, that is......
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 13:51
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Phone Wind,
My bad. I went through the sites individually in a bit of a hurry and failed to click on the one-way boxes and just went straight to prices of individual legs.
Again, my apologies.
unstable load,
Well, you can read between the lines. I made a mistake. I admit.
We're all subject to these.
I do however, have the honour of tucking my tail on this one.
Cheers.
Hopefully, we can now return to BRITISH AIRWAYS or maybe the knighting of SIR ARUMEMI JOHNSON???? Hahahaha

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Old 30th Jan 2009, 15:44
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Question Knight of What?

LJT,

Apology unconditionally accepted . You, Sir, are a gentleman.

Interesting the business about Arumemi-Johnson. Air Transport Intelligence describes a "Sir" Arumemi-Johnson as the Chief Executive of Arik Air. However, I notice that the EFCC refers to him merely as Mr Arumemi-Jihnson, whilst The Vanguard and a number of other Nigerian newspapers refer to him as "Sir" Arumemi-Johnson. The Government College, Ughelli Old Boys' Association refers to him as Sir (Engineer) Joseph Akinola Arumemi - Ikhide. They list him as having attained a BEng in mechanical engineering from Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria in 1973, aged 25. He worked for a number of international companies as an engineer and has a lot of experience in designing and building power stations. The GCU website says that he is a papal knight of the Catholic church and maybe it is from that he claims his title?

Government College, Ughelli

Having tried to find a list of papal knights (most of whom seem to be referred to as Chevalier, rather than Sir, I can find no reference to Arumemi-Johnson. Perhaps he obtained it via the Papal Knighthood
Pontifical Honors Scam via the Bogus Papal Agent for the United States, Mr Rutherford Johnson:

papalscams

He does not seem to have been conferred with a Papal knighthood by Pope John Paul 11:

Pope John Paul Knighthoods, Nigeria

I can't find any mention of him in the Order of the Knights of Saint Mulumba, Nigeria.

So does anyone know where, when and by whom his knighthood was conferred?
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 17:16
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Titles...

I was amused once to buy some music by Alhaji Sir Siriaku Barrister. The music was just sort of "okay" but that name!

This whole Arik business... someone will probably write a book about it one day! The deeper you look the dodgier it seems. Are they working with Sri Lankan? I have to ask because of the curious similarity of their websites.

A few years ago there was this Nigerian "prince" who was getting something or other going in Formula One. It seemed a bit odd at the time, this fellow no one had heard of coming up with promises of pots of cash as a real "mover and shaker" but hey... Turned out there was no cash; the man was scamming! In the meantime, though, he was taken completely at face value. Of course that sort of thing never happens in aviation does it?
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