Change at SAA
Change at SAA
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Whoever the new bloke is, he will need to furnish and equip a whole new siding for the gravy train so we will end up with yet another situation similar or not too different to the current state of affairs.
Still, we can only hope.............
Still, we can only hope.............
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Mabandla: SAA boss staying
Oct 1 2008 10:52AM
Cape Town - The chief executive of South African Airways Khaya Ngqula, has been given a ringing endorsement by his political boss, the Minister of Public Enterprises Brigitte Mabandla, who has just taken over from Alec Erwin. Giving a written reply to a parliamentary question circulated on Wednesday, the minister said that at this stage no consideration is being given to replacing the CEO of SAA.
"The airline operates in a tough commercial environment and the current management team and CEO continue to sustain SAA's high service standard in a difficult market environment," she said.
"In addition, the current management team and CEO should be commended on the implementation of a comprehensive and challenging restructuring programme that has enabled the airline to post an operating profit of R123m prior to restructuring costs at the end of 2007/08."
She explained that Ngqula's contract expires in October 2010. His remuneration for the past four years has been R2 295 000 in 2004/05, R6 850 000 which included a R1.85m performance bonus in 2005/06, R5 000 000 in 2006/07, and R5 687 669.40 including a retention premium of R687 699.40 in 2007/08.
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Oct 1 2008 10:52AM
Cape Town - The chief executive of South African Airways Khaya Ngqula, has been given a ringing endorsement by his political boss, the Minister of Public Enterprises Brigitte Mabandla, who has just taken over from Alec Erwin. Giving a written reply to a parliamentary question circulated on Wednesday, the minister said that at this stage no consideration is being given to replacing the CEO of SAA.
"The airline operates in a tough commercial environment and the current management team and CEO continue to sustain SAA's high service standard in a difficult market environment," she said.
"In addition, the current management team and CEO should be commended on the implementation of a comprehensive and challenging restructuring programme that has enabled the airline to post an operating profit of R123m prior to restructuring costs at the end of 2007/08."
She explained that Ngqula's contract expires in October 2010. His remuneration for the past four years has been R2 295 000 in 2004/05, R6 850 000 which included a R1.85m performance bonus in 2005/06, R5 000 000 in 2006/07, and R5 687 669.40 including a retention premium of R687 699.40 in 2007/08.
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And the band played on...
In addition, the current management team and CEO should be commended...
His remuneration for the past four years has been R2 295 000 in 2004/05, R6 850 000 which included a R1.85m performance bonus in 2005/06, R5 000 000 in 2006/07, and R5 687 669.40 including a retention premium of R687 699.40 in 2007/08
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SAA boss rakes in close to R20m
Oct 1 2008 11:16AM
Cape Town - SA Airways CEO Khaya Ngqula has been paid almost R20 million since his appointment on October 15 2004, it emerged on Wednesday.
In a written reply to a parliamentary question, Public Enterprises Minister Brigitte Mabandla said Ngqula's salary and fund contributions totalled R2 295,000 in 2004/05.
In 2005/06, he received a salary and fund contributions of R5m, as well as a performance bonus of R1 850 000.
His salary and fund contributions again totalled R5m in 2006/07, and again in 2007/08, when he also received a "retention premium" of R687 669.
In the four years he has been SAA CEO, Ngqula has thus taken home R19 832,669.
Mabandla said Ngqula's contract would expire in October 2010.
"At this stage no consideration is being given to replacing the CEO of SAA. The airline operates in a tough commercial environment and the current management team and CEO continue to sustain SAA's high service standard in a difficult market environment," she said.
SAA posted huge losses in 2006/07 and was thrown a R1.3bn lifeline by government with promises of more, subject to its return to profitability.
SAA's losses totalled R883m, with operating costs of R21.3 billion outstripping income of R20.6bn, for the year ending March 2007.
The airline has reportedly asked for R3bn from the National Treasury this financial year to offset losses sustained in the last financial year.
However, in July this year, Ngqula said SAA's restructuring had resulted in more than R1bn in costs being "taken out" of the organisation.
SAA reported a turnaround to post a R123m net profit (excluding restructuring costs) from ongoing operations in the year to end March 2008, against the loss of R883m the previous year. - Sapa
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Danjou,
You are quite right about people being able to have their say. What touches my nerves (Yes... It does) is the vindictive, ill-considered manner in which it is done. Hence my vindictive style of reply.
SAA most certainly does have it's challenges... An even that may be a gross understatement, but it is simply fascinating, and indeed disturbing to see how so many (I'm assuming here) non-SAA people are rabidly keen to witness this airline's demise.
While I am no particular fan of Khaya's, and consider his remuneration an insulting indication of self-enrichment at an inappropriate time in the company's history, I have been pretty impressed by the success of the restructuring program that he initiated.
Now, if this forum could become a place where we, as professional pilots could constructively brain-storm solutions to the industry's many challenges, it would elicit less emotionally driven writing, and become a valuable intellectual resource.
Until then however... It will, unfortunately remain a place where bored pilots vent their frustrated spleens, and other bored pilots (like me, for example) respond in kind.
The Tech-Log forum on this website is a good example of pilots working together in a constructive manner to find solutions that would remain otherwise elusive.
Cheers,
Pitch&Fan
You are quite right about people being able to have their say. What touches my nerves (Yes... It does) is the vindictive, ill-considered manner in which it is done. Hence my vindictive style of reply.
SAA most certainly does have it's challenges... An even that may be a gross understatement, but it is simply fascinating, and indeed disturbing to see how so many (I'm assuming here) non-SAA people are rabidly keen to witness this airline's demise.
While I am no particular fan of Khaya's, and consider his remuneration an insulting indication of self-enrichment at an inappropriate time in the company's history, I have been pretty impressed by the success of the restructuring program that he initiated.
Now, if this forum could become a place where we, as professional pilots could constructively brain-storm solutions to the industry's many challenges, it would elicit less emotionally driven writing, and become a valuable intellectual resource.
Until then however... It will, unfortunately remain a place where bored pilots vent their frustrated spleens, and other bored pilots (like me, for example) respond in kind.
The Tech-Log forum on this website is a good example of pilots working together in a constructive manner to find solutions that would remain otherwise elusive.
Cheers,
Pitch&Fan
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Such loyalty!
I love PPRUNE threads on SAA - they are always so entertaining!
Having had a chat to friends of mine who have the misfortune of being employed by this model organisation (although, naturally they don't - or he doesn't - think so), it never ceases to amaze me the complete propaganda and apparent brainwashed mentality which these supposedly competent and intelligent pilots portray when discussing SAA - think for yourselves buggers, you are all such a bunch of sheep, bleating on about how superb SAA is! I say privatisation is the way forward and then lets see how things go.
Having had a chat to friends of mine who have the misfortune of being employed by this model organisation (although, naturally they don't - or he doesn't - think so), it never ceases to amaze me the complete propaganda and apparent brainwashed mentality which these supposedly competent and intelligent pilots portray when discussing SAA - think for yourselves buggers, you are all such a bunch of sheep, bleating on about how superb SAA is! I say privatisation is the way forward and then lets see how things go.
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Actually P(B)itch&Groan - I can like to wear the jean pant - they can feel very comfortable, especially when I've drinked so much beer! There are much more space in my pant (for obvious reasons) than there are in those tight pilot pant the boys at SAA can like to wear!
Take a chill-pill Happiness, it isn't such a bad experience when you join the real world and listen to what others have to say - now back to the thread, which isn't half as amusing as watching our friend here nearly blow a gasket!
Take a chill-pill Happiness, it isn't such a bad experience when you join the real world and listen to what others have to say - now back to the thread, which isn't half as amusing as watching our friend here nearly blow a gasket!
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PitchandFan, management obviously sharing is aap-twak with you sycophants now? You okes are talking crap from the same branch now. Seems thier smoke and mirrors have gotten to you.
How many days will SAA's doors remain open, if they were privatised tomorrow and actually had to make a profit to survive. If there was no more tax-tit to suck on?
Parasites.
You still have hope if you are willing to admit management needs to pull its winky out of cat, if not, you might still learn one day.
Oh and ps - you will never guess who I work for, because you obviously think its for the competition....
How many days will SAA's doors remain open, if they were privatised tomorrow and actually had to make a profit to survive. If there was no more tax-tit to suck on?
Parasites.
You still have hope if you are willing to admit management needs to pull its winky out of cat, if not, you might still learn one day.
Oh and ps - you will never guess who I work for, because you obviously think its for the competition....
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Your therapist has a long road ahead.
This may come as a surprise to you but many of us really have no desire to work for SAA. It is a shocking entity, filled with dishonest people, run for political ends and commercially unviable. The fact that you pay your rent from it every month doesn’t make SAA okay, it makes you a leech on the South African taxpaying public too. Not only is there a life beyond SAA, there is an entire world were the scabby little airline doesn’t really matter all that much.
Anyhow, where exactly is this bar so high? Customer service is pathetic, its financially decrepit, SAAT have no capabilities left, its safety record is average at best, its filled with greedy thieves, and its ethics have been subject to review by both the Courts and Competition Commission on several occasions.
Since you consider yourself to be an English expert, try only starting new sentences With a Capital letter. Oh, and there is no hyphen in ‘bottom feeder’. For the rest your spelling with the single syllable words was exemplary.
Finally, is anyone there really that loyal, or is nobody else willing to employ them?
Anyhow, where exactly is this bar so high? Customer service is pathetic, its financially decrepit, SAAT have no capabilities left, its safety record is average at best, its filled with greedy thieves, and its ethics have been subject to review by both the Courts and Competition Commission on several occasions.
Since you consider yourself to be an English expert, try only starting new sentences With a Capital letter. Oh, and there is no hyphen in ‘bottom feeder’. For the rest your spelling with the single syllable words was exemplary.
Finally, is anyone there really that loyal, or is nobody else willing to employ them?
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Pitch & Fan you're not shedding much of a decent light on SAA pilots are you? Frankly I would get off your high horse and stop making out that SAA is the be all and end all of aviation, because quite honestly it ain't. I understand you want to stand up for what you believe in and rightly so but no need to attack and undermine others who have no idea what it's like working for the company.
And before you start degrading and judging me, I happen to work for the airline. Yes I made my choice and am fortuate to be there BUT I do not sit on my high horse and pretend nothing is wrong within the company. We all know it has its problems, money is wasted and certain esteemed leaders and others are paid numerous amounts of cash to do nothing. It makes me sick to my stomach, but hey we can't change it and never will!
But the rest of you on this thread also have to realise that we are all part of the aviation community, we do the same job, we have the same ideals and it just so happens that we are part of SAA. We don't make the rules, we just follow them so in essence realise that if we as a pilot body could change the face of SAA tomorrow, be assured we would. But that ain't going to happen...so we, like you, carry on our daily lives/jobs like any of you working at Comair, 1 Time, Link, SAX, etc........
Nuff said.....hope my spelling and use of grammar is ok pitch & fan.......
And before you start degrading and judging me, I happen to work for the airline. Yes I made my choice and am fortuate to be there BUT I do not sit on my high horse and pretend nothing is wrong within the company. We all know it has its problems, money is wasted and certain esteemed leaders and others are paid numerous amounts of cash to do nothing. It makes me sick to my stomach, but hey we can't change it and never will!
But the rest of you on this thread also have to realise that we are all part of the aviation community, we do the same job, we have the same ideals and it just so happens that we are part of SAA. We don't make the rules, we just follow them so in essence realise that if we as a pilot body could change the face of SAA tomorrow, be assured we would. But that ain't going to happen...so we, like you, carry on our daily lives/jobs like any of you working at Comair, 1 Time, Link, SAX, etc........
Nuff said.....hope my spelling and use of grammar is ok pitch & fan.......
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Ok & fair enough. I'll hop off my high horse for now, and reign in the stirring!
Cheers,
Pitch&Fan
PS: Nice to read a balanced, objective posting for a change though, even if you don't altogether agree with me.
Cheers,
Pitch&Fan
PS: Nice to read a balanced, objective posting for a change though, even if you don't altogether agree with me.