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Guys, Its sad to say but I think everybody agree that the time has come for companies to realize that if you shake a tree no more pilots will fall out..
Competition is tough.. everywhere more aeries coming... incl Link.. but experienced pilots know better and rather take better jobs..
Link is just not seeing the big picture.. and now that most of the pilots are leaving.. Solidarity will also be in danger.. most of the new pilots are not joining because no leadership.. all these guys have either been fired or are leaving/has left already...
Heard that the "Boss Managment" pilot have RED warning lights on but dont know what to do... RF and JvJ rather take more cadets because they can get 3 for the price of 1...
Link will be without training capts on the JS41 soon.. and as we all know thats the money converter... the erj's are just sucking the bank dry.. and the 146 is somewhere inbetween... considering they were build ages ago.. and have lots of technicals..
All I can say is that its sad to see this hapening.. LINK use to be an awsome company..pitty really..
Moo
Competition is tough.. everywhere more aeries coming... incl Link.. but experienced pilots know better and rather take better jobs..
Link is just not seeing the big picture.. and now that most of the pilots are leaving.. Solidarity will also be in danger.. most of the new pilots are not joining because no leadership.. all these guys have either been fired or are leaving/has left already...
Heard that the "Boss Managment" pilot have RED warning lights on but dont know what to do... RF and JvJ rather take more cadets because they can get 3 for the price of 1...
Link will be without training capts on the JS41 soon.. and as we all know thats the money converter... the erj's are just sucking the bank dry.. and the 146 is somewhere inbetween... considering they were build ages ago.. and have lots of technicals..
All I can say is that its sad to see this hapening.. LINK use to be an awsome company..pitty really..
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AirwayBlocker, it is possible that mortivflow, dendronite and ufecatun are all him. A desperate attempt to try and salvage what he might consider to be left of the company after he has 
it over.
RF you surely can't be so oblivious as to what's happening in your company. Perhaps you want to close the company and contract the flying part of it out so that you don't have to deal with the labour issues.I wonder how the investors would feel about that. It is blatantly obvious that you have no problem watching jvj() run this company into the ground. Why can SAX do it. Good wages,good conditions, good relations. I bet their training cost is lower than link's even though it's of a higher standard. Yes you read it-Higher standard. More recurrence training and less initials. Theres a new concept for you RF. Try the following if you want to save it all. Give jvj the boot. Listen to the people so desperately hoping that you might take the compay back to the harmonious past and combining it with the future. We know you are capable of that.(but you have to want to-Do you?) Try rewarding for hard work rather than a whip to enforce it. Imagine people desperately trying to get a job at link rather than desperately trying to get a job out of link. Comair is doing it. Their mission from what I hear is to be the last company to close in RSA due to a pilot shortage.(News from you ex employees now at Comair-Very happy bunch of chaps by the way) Guess where the cv's are flocking to! RF, your people can either work for or against you. It is your call
it over. RF you surely can't be so oblivious as to what's happening in your company. Perhaps you want to close the company and contract the flying part of it out so that you don't have to deal with the labour issues.I wonder how the investors would feel about that. It is blatantly obvious that you have no problem watching jvj() run this company into the ground. Why can SAX do it. Good wages,good conditions, good relations. I bet their training cost is lower than link's even though it's of a higher standard. Yes you read it-Higher standard. More recurrence training and less initials. Theres a new concept for you RF. Try the following if you want to save it all. Give jvj the boot. Listen to the people so desperately hoping that you might take the compay back to the harmonious past and combining it with the future. We know you are capable of that.(but you have to want to-Do you?) Try rewarding for hard work rather than a whip to enforce it. Imagine people desperately trying to get a job at link rather than desperately trying to get a job out of link. Comair is doing it. Their mission from what I hear is to be the last company to close in RSA due to a pilot shortage.(News from you ex employees now at Comair-Very happy bunch of chaps by the way) Guess where the cv's are flocking to! RF, your people can either work for or against you. It is your call
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Sadly the slide at Link started 8 yrs ago when RF lost his mind and elected to fight the pilots on the crewing of the ERJ's. Once he started down that path, it slowly became a one way street. To change tack would be to admit defeat.
He hoped that by putting management people in place that would buy into his idiot ideas he could make it all fly. JvJ seems to be the latest idiot in this long line.
I think now he is in denial, even though the writing is truly on the wall.
Airlink has been a lesson for me too. Its been a lesson on 'what to do' and 'MORE of what NOT to do'. The creed has been 'penny wise pound foolish'.
As the problems were created at the highest level, we all await their latest idiot idea with baited breath.
He hoped that by putting management people in place that would buy into his idiot ideas he could make it all fly. JvJ seems to be the latest idiot in this long line.
I think now he is in denial, even though the writing is truly on the wall.
The truth is i have studied Airlink and seen the company grow from the magnum days to where it is now.
There are a lot of frustrations at the moment which is being attended to at the highest level.
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Then prove it. Fire that stupid lunatic you empoyed to "fix" the company. He is ruining it!!! We will gladly back you RF! If you will only back us too!!! But if you don't............
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The weak,tired,battered link...
Like I said in a previous link-related thread,now is the time for some deep soul-searching on RF`s part. I don`t mean the philanthropic,Tibetan style soul-searching,I mean a quiet sit-down by himself to contemplate the future of Airlink and its place in this industry.He can choose this continual path of conflict with all of his employees or he can start trying to hammer in the tent pegs with the help of all of his staff.
.Surely he can see at what point relations with the pilots started to slide into the abyss
.A CEO employs the apparently most hated person in aviation and expects relations with the most important(business-wise at the moment)employee group to improve to smiles all-round? Sorry,but that does`nt sound like sharp business acumen to me.I think he needs to humble himself and have a heart to heart with some pilots.Either that,... or we need to get the union reps to invite the shareholders to an extaordinary pilot meeting....
with all of his employees or he can start trying to hammer in the tent pegs with the help of all of his staff..Surely he can see at what point relations with the pilots started to slide into the abyss.A CEO employs the apparently most hated person in aviation and expects relations with the most important(business-wise at the moment)employee group to improve to smiles all-round? Sorry,but that does`nt sound like sharp business acumen to me.I think he needs to humble himself and have a heart to heart with some pilots.Either that,... or we need to get the union reps to invite the shareholders to an extaordinary pilot meeting....
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Apology
dendronite. I apologise if you are'nt jvj. If you are RF and want to save the day, let's talk. We will come to the party if you do. If you are senior management (apart from jvj-mismanagement) then talk some sense into RF while there might still be a dim light at the end of the tunnel. RF, dare I say that you could almost be regarded a hero if you kick this jackass out of Link.
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The business of Link is people. People flying people.
On the ground and in the air there are people involved in the process of making this venture work. If you start messing with the people then you start sabotaging your own company. Essentially shooting it in the gut.
Why would any investor be interested in a company that does this? Why would any owner employ some one that sends this precious commodity packing?
On the ground and in the air there are people involved in the process of making this venture work. If you start messing with the people then you start sabotaging your own company. Essentially shooting it in the gut.
Why would any investor be interested in a company that does this? Why would any owner employ some one that sends this precious commodity packing?
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Farewell!
On a more positive note. I just heard 2 more captains got their starting dates at Comair and one F/O got an interview with them. Another captain also resigned to start at Mango next month. A second F/O got his interview wih Cathay.I suspect a few more promotions to P1 are eminent. Good luck gents!!
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Heard from a friend of mine in SAA that after a feedback with Khaha on Monday that they are now recruting and some guys have been invited to interviews and psycho's. Can anyone confirm this, as I may want to come back to SA, am tired of the sandpit!!!
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The awfull truth is that the guys are so overworked that they are calling in with fatique. One captain got booked off for a week. The props are coming off, several blades at a time!
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Despite all the negatives?
Well let me now be bold -
I hope by this time everyone has vented their anger -
My Question:
"Where can one sends your CV if you wants to works for Link?" 
- Me thinks:
"If you can't fight them - join them - and maybe become likes them?" 
You thinks it will works??
VortexGen300
I hope by this time everyone has vented their anger -
My Question:
"Where can one sends your CV if you wants to works for Link?" - Me thinks:
"If you can't fight them - join them - and maybe become likes them?" You thinks it will works??
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VortexGen300: Good for you boet. If you click on most other airline websites, you come across a link. A very special link. It normally reads "Join us" or "careers". Airlink has no site like that or else its just a secret. If you want to work for link, you come to the 4th floor in the south wing of the O R Thambo international airport. You then find a door that reads "Airlink". On the door there is a sign saying "No CV's accepted here". You have now arived at the correct place. Ask someone to slip it under the chief pilot's door. Do not hand it to your buddy at link to place it on the right pile. I do not know a single person who even got a call that way. Really! Good luck and welcome to the hotel california!
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c.v`s to link?
The 'right pile'? At link?There is no right pile.In fact there`s no pile.
Go through the door marked"no cv`s accepted" tell them you want to be a pilot for link....they`ll sign you up,as long as you can identify a fixed wing from a helicopter at least 7 times out of 10 your made....
Go through the door marked"no cv`s accepted" tell them you want to be a pilot for link....they`ll sign you up,as long as you can identify a fixed wing from a helicopter at least 7 times out of 10 your made....
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How long will it take for Link to start paying pilots on a Dollar scale? After all, if you are working on a Rand scale your salary seems to diminish on a weekly basis.
It would seem that the minimum starting salary right now, in order to buy an average house, own an average car (one, not two) and live a comfotable life is around R50 000.00 a month.
This should be the co-pilot's salary.
After all, the Captain should own two cars.
When are pilots going to start asking for what they are worth?
It would seem that the minimum starting salary right now, in order to buy an average house, own an average car (one, not two) and live a comfotable life is around R50 000.00 a month.
This should be the co-pilot's salary.
After all, the Captain should own two cars.
When are pilots going to start asking for what they are worth?
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Not quite sure what the fuss is about..........
Airlink is a stepping stone and like any stepping stone, you use it to cross the river, even if you still get your feet wet.
I would like to risk a comment here and state that none of the resignations at link are guys standing on their principles and saying they would rather be out on the steet. I bet they all have offers from bigger better airlines(ie the next stone).
Most people at link are on the way up and management accepts this......that is why they have a training bond scheme in place. With all due respect to those who wish to make a career at link....well, you gonna get what you deserve.
The guys that are at link or are thinking of taking a job there should be focused on their careers, not their terms and conditions. Frankly, if you get an offer to fly the 146 or ERJ, you should be taking that over a cushy Dash8 job. It will get you ahead quicker.......
Airlink is a stepping stone and like any stepping stone, you use it to cross the river, even if you still get your feet wet.
I would like to risk a comment here and state that none of the resignations at link are guys standing on their principles and saying they would rather be out on the steet. I bet they all have offers from bigger better airlines(ie the next stone).
Most people at link are on the way up and management accepts this......that is why they have a training bond scheme in place. With all due respect to those who wish to make a career at link....well, you gonna get what you deserve.
The guys that are at link or are thinking of taking a job there should be focused on their careers, not their terms and conditions. Frankly, if you get an offer to fly the 146 or ERJ, you should be taking that over a cushy Dash8 job. It will get you ahead quicker.......