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111Moo,
so true, so true!!!!
Let a few people feel cause they can't hear or read the writing on the wall, daar is groot K#K!!
Thanks goodness a few left a while back and turned it down, best decision ever, quiet frankly I would rather fly just hang around on contract or wherever you are before getting into the link bus!!!
If you hav a ATPL(or Subjects) SAX will interview you, they looking, money is good, good guys, well disciplined and you never read crap about them doing **** they shouldn't, excellent SOP's etc!!!!
Smile ad Wave boys, there is another one on its way!!!!
so true, so true!!!!
Let a few people feel cause they can't hear or read the writing on the wall, daar is groot K#K!!
Thanks goodness a few left a while back and turned it down, best decision ever, quiet frankly I would rather fly just hang around on contract or wherever you are before getting into the link bus!!!
If you hav a ATPL(or Subjects) SAX will interview you, they looking, money is good, good guys, well disciplined and you never read crap about them doing **** they shouldn't, excellent SOP's etc!!!!
Smile ad Wave boys, there is another one on its way!!!!
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Don't get too cosy!
Fresh news. Rumour is that jvj has told a few boys that he has devised a new rostering/duty policy. Once you sign on you are his for the day. If your duty has been completed and they have an extra flight for you, you have to do it. Don't think you can just go home after your rostered duty. Sounds like that charter job in nigeria not so bad anymore. Also heard that a CA completed her duty for the day and got told to stay in ct for extra day. She refused( Because she has a life) and is now being called in for a disciplinary hearing. Soon they (CA's) are going to be unionised too. Good luck with your BS jvj!!! On a more positive note, one of the JS41 training captains withdrew his resignation and is no longer going to Mango
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Haha, only reason he's not goin is cause he is probably to embaressed to put on 3 bars and be shown that he is not as clever as he thinks he is!!!
JVJ, just hang your boots up, hope the ppl at link don't take all this crap from him!!!
JVJ, just hang your boots up, hope the ppl at link don't take all this crap from him!!!
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breaking rules again!!
the training Capt you refer to is actually next on the "list" to go onto the 146, and according to him, he can't take the salary drop to go and fly 737-800's (more that 10k for him).. a real pitty... now he is also stuck with them for life... and all RF and JvJ's crap...
also heard that thay want to bring the 'new' sign-on policies into effect which make you do your duty and then the rest of the time be on standby.. Already doing it with the 146 drivers!!! because they are so short on pilots!!
heard at a mate that according to their opsmanual the combined experience of the flight crew on an aircraft needs to be in excess of 1000hrs on type!! - So all the 146 flights are illigail !!!! and most of the JS41 flights!! - like always Link breaking the rules to make the operation work!
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The average time on type at link must be below 500hrs now...
Like I always say.. a change is as good as a holiday!! so stay away!
MOO
also heard that thay want to bring the 'new' sign-on policies into effect which make you do your duty and then the rest of the time be on standby.. Already doing it with the 146 drivers!!! because they are so short on pilots!!
heard at a mate that according to their opsmanual the combined experience of the flight crew on an aircraft needs to be in excess of 1000hrs on type!! - So all the 146 flights are illigail !!!! and most of the JS41 flights!! - like always Link breaking the rules to make the operation work!
-The average time on type at link must be below 500hrs now...
Like I always say.. a change is as good as a holiday!! so stay away!
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One of the training captains has just told me he had a call from jvj questioning his booking off sick
.I really did`nt know he was a medical doctor as well as aviation-advisor to the stars. Does this man`s talents know no boundaries? Someone in management told me that the wheels were not coming off at link....he said they were already off and the company is sliding along on it`s chassis! When the C.O.O is calling crew about booking off sick then its plain to see the degeneration into the abyss of chaos and desperation the company is finding itself tumbling into
. OPS is an unorganised mess,with crew reporting being phoned at 1am to crew a/c to "solve" other problems at other bases.Signing-on is a bit of a laugh at the moment as well-very often the captain,f.o and hostie have different sign-on times for the same flight! The roster is said to be manipulated daily to screw crew over in order to make the schedule work.From what i hear about 15-20 captains short,10 f.o`s, on-going resignations(crew,ops and most recently the security manager,not to mention engineering staff).A once very nice, well-run company..........
.I really did`nt know he was a medical doctor as well as aviation-advisor to the stars. Does this man`s talents know no boundaries? Someone in management told me that the wheels were not coming off at link....he said they were already off and the company is sliding along on it`s chassis! When the C.O.O is calling crew about booking off sick then its plain to see the degeneration into the abyss of chaos and desperation the company is finding itself tumbling into. OPS is an unorganised mess,with crew reporting being phoned at 1am to crew a/c to "solve" other problems at other bases.Signing-on is a bit of a laugh at the moment as well-very often the captain,f.o and hostie have different sign-on times for the same flight! The roster is said to be manipulated daily to screw crew over in order to make the schedule work.From what i hear about 15-20 captains short,10 f.o`s, on-going resignations(crew,ops and most recently the security manager,not to mention engineering staff).A once very nice, well-run company..........
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all the above TRUE!!! the crew are all gatvol... and now that JvJ got his finger in the pie... he is really pissing off the pilots... from what I hear there atleast another 15 on the "to resign" list next month!!
Oh and now JvJ a medical expert aswell... what a circius at link! Guess that makes me an Astronaut..
They are even using EX-Airlink pilots to do their test flights... no employed crew avaliable to crew the "extra" flights.. and with the Propellers cracking... the JS41 will be not be flying much longer.. Maby thats what they need.. some of thier own medicine.. they screw the crew.. now they are being screwed...
Its just a matter of time.. then we will see a huge mushroom cloud...
Just Heard another Link 911.. on the radio.. and its a 146... another "help is on the way" aerie... normal ops these days..
Guys STAY AWAY!!! Link is bad news!!
Oh and now JvJ a medical expert aswell... what a circius at link! Guess that makes me an Astronaut..
They are even using EX-Airlink pilots to do their test flights... no employed crew avaliable to crew the "extra" flights.. and with the Propellers cracking... the JS41 will be not be flying much longer.. Maby thats what they need.. some of thier own medicine.. they screw the crew.. now they are being screwed...
Its just a matter of time.. then we will see a huge mushroom cloud...
Just Heard another Link 911.. on the radio.. and its a 146... another "help is on the way" aerie... normal ops these days..
Guys STAY AWAY!!! Link is bad news!!
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dendronite Where exactly is this "there" you are refering to? JVJ's new duty policy. You probably think that that so called policy is going to be bilaterally agreed upon
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This is an old problem that is being monitored at the highest level. Those j41s are extremely tough and reliable.
They have served well and are going to contiue to serve for many years to come.
The worst case is that now and then a j41 will have to carry reduced payloads
all airlines suffer breakdowns etc so 911 is not a bad thing
bring it on mr astronaought MOO - bring it on
They have served well and are going to contiue to serve for many years to come.
The worst case is that now and then a j41 will have to carry reduced payloads
all airlines suffer breakdowns etc so 911 is not a bad thing
bring it on mr astronaought MOO - bring it on
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Welcome ufecatun
ufecatun, welcome to the pprune world. See this is your first time you participate. Yes it is supposed to be positive and that is the sole intent. I suspect that I am not going to be able to give you a satisfactory answer. I suggest you look at previous posts about airlink and make up your own mind as to why that is. After you have read them, my best attempt to answer your question in a nut shell would be: Just trying to hold on to the dream!
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Boswell wilkie continued....
"......which is being attended to at the highest level".
.Don`t make me laugh-the problem with link is at the highest levels.RF & jvj have lost touch with the realities of their employees and IMHO with the industry as a whole. The airline is functioning in pure desperation mode and being managed with a siege mentality. The shareholders need to get involved here and quickly.The tent pegs are coming loose...and its a big tent.and the wind is picking up...
.Don`t make me laugh-the problem with link is at the highest levels.RF & jvj have lost touch with the realities of their employees and IMHO with the industry as a whole. The airline is functioning in pure desperation mode and being managed with a siege mentality. The shareholders need to get involved here and quickly.The tent pegs are coming loose...and its a big tent.and the wind is picking up...
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TO a few of you sucking up in hope off......
I think its time you surelly come to light and realise the facts mate, ppl are talking about link, people in PMB don't even want to fly with them anymore, I personally know and have spoken to ppl that rather travel to durban and fly from there, there are countless delays, flights landing 4hrs late with pax that are fuming and when they land there is no freakin bus for them, no baggage handlers etc, this is not being negative, but surelly realistic, how would you feel arriving 3hrs late, missing your connection and not knowing where u stayin etc,THINGS are a mess there at the moment, take your blinkers off mate, NO AIRLINE IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS I KNOW MAKES YOU FLY THEN WHEN U LAND U GO HOME BUT ARE ON HOME RESERVE, prove me wrong on this, and also tell me who,we not talking about monkey operators. LInk is a big player in the field, but htings are not working, we could write a story on them, they screw new hires on salary, not paying them what other FO's are getting, they dont want to pay people longevity for work thats been done cause they resigned, please this is work done already, they must cough up.
OPS, well thats even a bigger joke, I mean there is 1 guy that is as thick as a brick, try listening out and have a laugh at his RT skills. Decisions can't be made, the ops manager can't even count let alone organise ops, they manipulate rosters at there will, they are short crew, engineering is a F%^K up and they dont even have drivers to drive crew backwards and forwards. the list goes on....
The crew are great guysand gals, but i dont work cause people are nice, I have a house to pay and bills to honour, if you can survive on their ****ty salary then good for you!!!
Just remember that people dont just work for money also, we need to be looked after and have a career, people aren't getting moved to the Jets cause roger is nice, please, they have to move them otherwise they will go, once hes got a few across the whole process will commence again of having to fight for everything. He could not give a rats ass about you and your career, he wants to line he's pocket but soon if he doesn't move a few across he's in big kak, imagine if 10 J41 drivers pack it in and 5ERJ capt they would be totally stuffed!!!
If you can't realise that there is kak happening there, then you to dumb or blind or deaf but its time you acknowledge that there is stuff happening thats not good for people and most importantly the Company( If it folds, thereare lots of hungery mouths out there), by saying this, its important to get a career path etc, BUT THE J41 pilots must not screw their work partners just to get onto a jet, work as a team and stop being selffish about it!!! There is no way you can expect a ERJ/B146 fo to sit for 4 years before moving to the J41 as a capt and lots of other things as well!!! no airline works like this, if link gets a system going, people will be happier and not leave so quickly and they will have to jack up a lot of other things as well.
BUT FIRST YOU ALL NEED TO KICK JVJ's KNEECAPS IN AND THEN KICK HIS ASS RIGHT OUT OF THE OFFICE, CAUSE THAT MAN IS A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!!!!!!
he comes with a **** track record!!!
Till things change, I still maintain that one should stear well clear of link!!!!
I think its time you surelly come to light and realise the facts mate, ppl are talking about link, people in PMB don't even want to fly with them anymore, I personally know and have spoken to ppl that rather travel to durban and fly from there, there are countless delays, flights landing 4hrs late with pax that are fuming and when they land there is no freakin bus for them, no baggage handlers etc, this is not being negative, but surelly realistic, how would you feel arriving 3hrs late, missing your connection and not knowing where u stayin etc,THINGS are a mess there at the moment, take your blinkers off mate, NO AIRLINE IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS I KNOW MAKES YOU FLY THEN WHEN U LAND U GO HOME BUT ARE ON HOME RESERVE, prove me wrong on this, and also tell me who,we not talking about monkey operators. LInk is a big player in the field, but htings are not working, we could write a story on them, they screw new hires on salary, not paying them what other FO's are getting, they dont want to pay people longevity for work thats been done cause they resigned, please this is work done already, they must cough up.
OPS, well thats even a bigger joke, I mean there is 1 guy that is as thick as a brick, try listening out and have a laugh at his RT skills. Decisions can't be made, the ops manager can't even count let alone organise ops, they manipulate rosters at there will, they are short crew, engineering is a F%^K up and they dont even have drivers to drive crew backwards and forwards. the list goes on....
The crew are great guysand gals, but i dont work cause people are nice, I have a house to pay and bills to honour, if you can survive on their ****ty salary then good for you!!!
Just remember that people dont just work for money also, we need to be looked after and have a career, people aren't getting moved to the Jets cause roger is nice, please, they have to move them otherwise they will go, once hes got a few across the whole process will commence again of having to fight for everything. He could not give a rats ass about you and your career, he wants to line he's pocket but soon if he doesn't move a few across he's in big kak, imagine if 10 J41 drivers pack it in and 5ERJ capt they would be totally stuffed!!!
If you can't realise that there is kak happening there, then you to dumb or blind or deaf but its time you acknowledge that there is stuff happening thats not good for people and most importantly the Company( If it folds, thereare lots of hungery mouths out there), by saying this, its important to get a career path etc, BUT THE J41 pilots must not screw their work partners just to get onto a jet, work as a team and stop being selffish about it!!! There is no way you can expect a ERJ/B146 fo to sit for 4 years before moving to the J41 as a capt and lots of other things as well!!! no airline works like this, if link gets a system going, people will be happier and not leave so quickly and they will have to jack up a lot of other things as well.
BUT FIRST YOU ALL NEED TO KICK JVJ's KNEECAPS IN AND THEN KICK HIS ASS RIGHT OUT OF THE OFFICE, CAUSE THAT MAN IS A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!!!!!!
he comes with a **** track record!!!
Till things change, I still maintain that one should stear well clear of link!!!!
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Monkey business
From what appears it seems that the sick is being bullied, the hosties are being victimised, the planes are falling apart, the crew is inexperienced and then JVJ wants to enslave the ppls by making inappropriate changes to conditions of service...
Where did JVJ and RF get their business savvy? The Bob Mugabe school of business?
To make it worse they appear to be pransing about like the Emperor with no clothes. Maybe blinded by their own egos while the company callapses into a screaming heap.
Ironically the solution is so simple... get rid of the one with the monkey brains for business sense.
Where did JVJ and RF get their business savvy? The Bob Mugabe school of business?
To make it worse they appear to be pransing about like the Emperor with no clothes. Maybe blinded by their own egos while the company callapses into a screaming heap.
Ironically the solution is so simple... get rid of the one with the monkey brains for business sense.
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No joking!
FatFunny, no joking. I count at least 29 resignations (curret and eminent) and pilots that have left from our last seniority list dated 17 February 2008. That is from a list of 127. By my calculation that is nearly 23% of crew in a period of approximately 3 months. At least it will not be a very big screaming heap.
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The "PAWPAW" may have just then hit the fan!!!!!
Would be interresting to know how many have left in the last year, I guess more than around 50 people!!!!! oh and thats Aircrew, not engineers or ops or headoffice, OH BUT NOTHING IS WRONG AT AIRLINK ITS ROSY!!!!!
Would be interresting to know how many have left in the last year, I guess more than around 50 people!!!!! oh and thats Aircrew, not engineers or ops or headoffice, OH BUT NOTHING IS WRONG AT AIRLINK ITS ROSY!!!!!
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The Crew Shortage will Bite...
It bit REX in Australia for the same reasons it is going to bite Link in the VERY near future.
Modus Operandi at REX (Post Crew Shortage): 1 Hour before 1st sign-on it is decided which flights will be manned and which will be cancelled for the day.
It bit REX in Australia for the same reasons it is going to bite Link in the VERY near future.
Modus Operandi at REX (Post Crew Shortage): 1 Hour before 1st sign-on it is decided which flights will be manned and which will be cancelled for the day.
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but this policy has been in effect at SAX for years. Once you sign on, you are available for the full extent of your FDP. It works for us.
Then again, you might get used once every 2 or 3 years for 2 extra legs and at SAX you get paid extra.........
NO AIRLINE IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS I KNOW MAKES YOU FLY THEN WHEN U LAND U GO HOME BUT ARE ON HOME RESERVE
Then again, you might get used once every 2 or 3 years for 2 extra legs and at SAX you get paid extra.........
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Ok, nice, but a least u get paid a bit extra and looked after, link u get a kick in the ass and expected to do it tomorrow again!!
I think the chickens are finally coming to roost after the closing of the APA branch of ALPA. Good luck with Solidarity!