Emirates - a threat for SA Airlines??
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Shouldn't you be selling fish & chips on a corner somewhere
Shouldn't you be selling fish & chips on a corner somewhere
I missed the punchline, what does this have to do with the price of Tea in China??
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just for info when EK starts flying to Durban it is supposed to be to the new airport at LA Mercy, which should be longer. The big question is when will La Mercy be ready?
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I have heard that they can use those frequencies to fly to other destinations ie. Dubai - Joburg - Lusaka and then return on the same route.
The fact that EK is offering opportunities to SA pilots I think is a great thing. If Comair/1time/Airlink can't train quick enough, then they will have to come up with retention packages. Its the old train vs retain debate.
It will drive salaries up top to bottom in the SA industry. Said it before, u have gotta love globalization.
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Believe me EK can make money on any sector however short the sector. Eg. Dubai - Doha, flying time 00:40. Aircraft A332. Seats full. Making money, yes.
EK will soon populate the rest of the world. The Sheik said he wants to be the biggest and most proffitable airline in the world by 2012. Wait for November and Dubai airshow to see another hugh >100 aircraft order.
I am sure EK will be doing dct CPT daily soon as well as DBN.
EK will soon populate the rest of the world. The Sheik said he wants to be the biggest and most proffitable airline in the world by 2012. Wait for November and Dubai airshow to see another hugh >100 aircraft order.
I am sure EK will be doing dct CPT daily soon as well as DBN.
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The earth moving equipment which has been parked at La Mercy for a while due to local objections, have now started working. Not long till new airport is done. Ek is still going to give all local airlines carrots.
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Ever heard of a little law by ICAO called Cabotage?
Cabotage is the transport of goods or passengers between two points in the same country.
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The fact that EK is offering opportunities to SA pilots I think is a great thing. If Comair/1time/Airlink can't train quick enough, then they will have to come up with retention packages. Its the old train vs retain debate
ts up, you'll have a bunch of SAA pilots looking for work in SA. The senior guys won't be going to EK, as the EK pilot on the last roadshow said they only look at guys " like Americans who have 15 000 hrs, of which 7 000 are PIC on the 777 " for the DEC program. As far as I know, none of the SAA guys have 777 time. I can't see working conditions improving in SA for a while, as RF,VB etc.. may have a huge pool to choose from shortly
Interesting thread. But having looked at the title, "Emirates - a threat for SA Airlines??" , I feel sure that SAA are more of a threat to themselves than any other major carrier! What an outfit! Not 'if', just 'when' with regard to it collapsing in a pile of its own poo.
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All Emirates has to do, is to initially set up a base in S.A., employ any number of well qualified pilots to operate the flights, which will generally all be SAA guys. Then as they grow the base, SAA will start to shrink further! Give it a bit of time, and they will swallow up the national carrier, maybe even buy it out! (if there's anything left to buy!!) And there you have it, the new national carrier, Emirates South African Airlines. Sound far fetched? I dont think so... Look at Virgin. They have already become the national carrier for Nigeria. Expanding in Aussie (V Australia), and getting going in the States! So there you have it.... Come and show these clowns how it's done EK!!!
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Emirates To SA
Just to correct a common misconception. Emirates is a privately owned carrier based in the UAE. Etihad is the government backed flag carrier of the UAE based in Abu Dhabi. And no I don't fly for either of them just in case anyone wants to climb on their soapbox and get personal or accuse me of bias. I fly for a privately owned company based at Johannesburg.
African governments and, to a greater or lesser extent, the managements of the majority of African flag carriers are to blame for the predicament that these airlines find themselves in. The privately owned carriers on the continent (especially in South Africa ) are, for the most part, doing OK. Same conditions w.r.t to weak currencies, high fuel prices, competition from other carriers etc.
These are the indisputable facts of the matter! It's a global world and companies have no option but to be competitive if they wish to survive and thrive. Keep national politics out of the airlines and hire professional people who can make the companies succeed, not cronies, lackies and Employment Equity wannabes! Jobs for pals just won't work anymore.
African governments and, to a greater or lesser extent, the managements of the majority of African flag carriers are to blame for the predicament that these airlines find themselves in. The privately owned carriers on the continent (especially in South Africa ) are, for the most part, doing OK. Same conditions w.r.t to weak currencies, high fuel prices, competition from other carriers etc.
These are the indisputable facts of the matter! It's a global world and companies have no option but to be competitive if they wish to survive and thrive. Keep national politics out of the airlines and hire professional people who can make the companies succeed, not cronies, lackies and Employment Equity wannabes! Jobs for pals just won't work anymore.
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