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SA Flying schools and Jobs in Nam/Bots

Old 6th Apr 2007, 14:22
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great post icarus208
What about flight instructing jobs in africa? is there any places you would recommend beside south africa?
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 19:09
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Hey CF..No problem.. Hope you come right with Bots...great place to fly and remember to take a new liver along.... a lot of drinking going on there..just be carefull not to fall into that kinda routine otherwise it will become very expensive place to live in...

Gilliam..Im a instructor in Namibia and South Africa...only instructed in those two countries... Not really great knowledge about other African Countries though..What I really can see about those two is that there will always be work for instructors in those countries. Try Namiba, they are ALWAYS short of instructors there. SA is whole different ball game. Lots of jobs there too. You just have to keep on emailing the Flying Schools. If they dont reply now...try again next month. SA is a place if they need pilots they will take the first CV that is on top of Pile. If youre CV is there then you have the job. Same with Namibia, but Nam you have to be there because they like sort of informal interviews.

Any other African country is not worth it because there is no money for anybody to start their training. Go look for development countries like SA, Nam and Kenya...lots of flying there too...

Hope this help guys.

Need more help...just shout
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 19:41
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thanks icarus

thanks a lot icarus
do you know if FAA CFI can instruct in Africa? or i need to convert my license?
where are you working now? (you seem quite expert of round and about Africa)
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 22:31
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My liver still hurts

Hey mate,

The best thing to do is get the old 206 on the licence, some companies will only hire guys with a 206 on the licence. Some donít really mind. But rather have it than not.

Make sure you have all your original documents with you, i.e. birth cert, licence, all that kind of jazz as they need all that for the work permit.

With the smaller companies its all about how you are going to fit in with the other boys and girls working in the company, donít suck up to the chief pilots but be friendly to them. When I was hiring guys it was mostly the guys and girls that got on with the rest of us in the pub and could have a laugh with that got hired. One thing you have to remember about Maun is basically you live in each others pockets in and out of work so donít be a pest!!! hehaha

The best thing to do is ask to go on as many rides as possible, when there are empty legs the CP usually lets a new guy go along for the ride its a great experience, generally because most of the pilots out there are really good at what they do, so its a learning experience and its pretty fun too!!! Remember things change really often so donít get bummed out or angry if you get bumped off a ride.

If you get chucked out of sedia got to Audi, they give pirates a good deal, and usually there are quite a few unemployed people to hang with and drink with!!!

Have fun while you are there, and remember things change in maun daily so donít write off a company because they "arenít hiring" go in and make yourself known to the CP or ops manager. Usually companies not hiring are the best ones to get some "free rides" with.

Enjoy, I know I sure did
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Old 7th Apr 2007, 03:45
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Question sorry if I'm being thick?

Guys your talking about putting the c-206 onto my cpl. Now is there a type rating or something for this a/c. I thought it was a 5 place Single Engine Piston??

Do you mean have it in your logbook that you have flown this a/c ?? like a check ride of competency??

Again cheers for the posts guys, good to see pilots spreading the joy
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Old 7th Apr 2007, 04:57
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That's about it. Unlike the UK and US where a class up to a certain weight is allowed on a PPL or CPL, in these parts you need to have each type noted and signed off by an instructor in your logbook, turbines and those above 5700kg will be endorsed on your licence.

It's a bit nanny state but probably the only way to prevent people getting into an aircraft without ever having seen the flight manual or being aware of unusual characteristics.

Best you get a few hours on C206 before heading out to Bots, in other words.
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Old 7th Apr 2007, 05:05
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yes

The Botswana DCA require 5 hours on type for a type rating...

Although it is really expensive to buy 5 hours yourself. So if you can get it signed off in less time than that do it!!! your company will do some circut bashing and your flight test can be "made" to equal 5 hours if you know what I mean!
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Old 7th Apr 2007, 06:51
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Hey Guys..

SRT.. you are on the monyey with that comment. I think the way we do it and do some conversions before we ever go "solo" in our small pisscats is probably a lot safer than some other countries.

pyote..thanks for the input...forgot about the actual paperwork side of things which is probably the most important part of getting the job.

Then onto the FAA instructors licence... SA is very sticky on FAA licence just being converted. If you want to get your SA licence unfortunately you have to write on your commercial exams and instructors exams..just like any other Comm pilot out there. Then do your test after that after done some "patter" with an instructor...Long run, gona cost you a whole lot of cash before getting started...then there is still no job for you guarenteed.

Namibia on the other hand is a lot easier. Just a practical flight test on a C152 on C172 and with an easy Airlaw test...which incidently cost you U$1...what a joke to ask for money anyway. Then on your way to get a job. There is only a few flight schools in Namibia and a lot of students with lots of money there. Pay is pretty crap though.

Good luck
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 14:07
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thanks a lot Icarus
well pay is crap everywhere for an instructor
Icarus i tried to pm you but this function is disabled...can you please pm me with more info about jobs in bots namibia and etc.
thanks a lot mate
more than a beer for you when we will meet
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 22:11
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cheers Icarus208
So you are working as a flight instructor in namibia that must be something,nice weather and nice scenery as I can imagine.
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 03:50
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Great Thread

Awesome, good to see ppl spreading the love instead of bitching for once!

Can I take the thread up a level asking about getting Multi time in Bots for someone with a few hundred 206 hours under their belt? I imagine there would be some sort of seniorority system like most places. But is it time spent in the company or time spent in the air ie. Total time?

I'm looking at africa or PNG with 1100tot and just shy of 500hours in a 206 with 60 in a BN2. Can you guys steer me in the right direction?

much appreciated

PJ
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 04:12
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what an awesome place

I think people should be asking. "Hey, I'm looking for a sweet place to meet some great people and sink some bevvies for the next couple of years...oh yeah and since I'll probably have to get a job any room for an extra pilot?"
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 02:27
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Twin Time

In Bots, it was definatly a seniority thing. I would advise you to look somewhere other than Bots if you want twin time. Tanzania is a good place to start looking!
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Old 22nd Apr 2007, 20:19
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Given the opportunity to choose...

...which country in Africa would you pick to relocate to in order to get a flying job?

Reason i ask is that my better half will be working at an embassy (don't know which one, but we get to make a list of where we want to go) and we are trying to figure out where to go. I want to be able to fly where ever it is that we do end up. Which country in Africa (or anywhere for that matter) has the most opportunities? I like the idea of doing some bush flying.

By the time we get there i am looking to have around 300 hours with PPL, Comm, Instrument and maybe some multi time. Before i go i'll get some time in C206 or the like also, from what i have read on here.

Thanks
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Old 23rd Apr 2007, 07:19
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Africa

I don't know much about the rest of Africa but in Southern Africa, with your experience level, Botswana is the only place. There are lots of threads about Botswana/Maun so do a search. The only problem is the Embassy is in Gaborone (South Botswana) and the flying jobs are in Maun on the edge of the Okavango Delta (way up north).
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 09:27
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Haha...that's an idea too. Seems smarter to me.

Maybe i just need to convince my wife to let me buy my own plane
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 18:08
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Uganda... yip...I wont mind flying out of Entebbe and living on the lake.
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 19:56
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Was in Entebbe recently...

Had 2 500ml beers (great) and a full fish dinner, only cost me $9
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 15:58
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fish Entebbe by the lake!

Aah yes Entebbe, living by the lake, just the lake flies and bilharzia to contend with - bliss!
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Old 1st May 2007, 15:44
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Lovely place Uganda. Great flying, huge thunderstorms. Bugger all ATC to mess you about. Just make sure you take your own generator.
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