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Old 11th Jul 2007, 21:55
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Pilot Wages in Nigeria

Hello Ppruners,

I am looking to work in Nigeria once i conclude my JAA training later this year and should have in the region of 300 hours (a third of which is multi & sim time).
  • I am aware of the numerous aircraft types available in the Nigerian Aviation industry and i would be grateful if those who have an experience/knowledge of the industry in Nigeria can offer any valuable piece of information on the typical renumeration for different positons they are aware of OR might have held in the past.
  • Also, could you please share your views on the level of importance placed on the MCC qualification by Nigerian Airlines.
I look forward to tapping into the brains of the thousands of experienced flyers out there on this forum. Thanks in advance for your guidance!

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Nice to know your doin the MCC thing, am sure we are going to start pickin up on that soon here. Know a whole bunch of us here who need to get fixed up on an MCC class . and stop thinking the cockpit is there throne.

Pay is fine mate. Dont worry too much about pay now, just come and fly.
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Naijaninja,
PM me.
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with your MCC and being a Ninja i am sure you will show sone tingods a lesson back home

As zazoo rightly said just come back and fly. The pay is ok.

However, you should be prepared for License conversion and find a little job to do for at least two months.
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if you add a 737-300 to that jaa of yours,if you can afford it.............you have almost automatic employment in VIRGIN NIGERIA,and i think something equally close in ARIK and AERO.
You have to convert your licence,at the snail paced NCAA,and that can be quite frustrating,as they will insist on a fax from the issuing authority to verify ,and the fax machine at NCAA will
1.probably be out of paper
or
2.a power cut will not allow it to function
or
3.they may not have paid thier phone bills so it may be dead
but they will insist on this fax
so i suggest you get your issuing authority to send a courier to them in advance of your arrival to help you going
am not trying to kill your spirit but it takes a while to do the conversion

THE PAY IS COOL
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Congrats in advance as said so far all is well in nigeria pay wise and its a good place to log hours quickly. Changing your licence is not going to be hectic as coming with a JAA licence allows you to escape all the exams except Air Law which should not be too bad. The NCAA is now greatly improved from when i did my conversion and it should not take you more than 3 weeks to convert. Try to get a type if you can if not GOOD LUCK coz it might take a year to get a job as airlines in nigeria employ firstly on WHO U KNOW( course you must be qualified) then what you know.
ONCE AGAIN ALL THE BEST.
AND WELCOME
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Thanx For the Advice Cos I Am Still In School (Minna)And looking foward to Flying in Nigeria in acouple of years by God's Grace. But For My the Pay is Second The love of it Comes First.ALWAYS
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There's a limit to how much the 'love' thing goes and it won't take you long to FIND out. We are all attracted to this profession for the thrills it brings amongst other reasons but trust me, you are deceiving yourself if you assert that renumeration isn't important.

I know a few captains who will testify to the love thing being a temporary thing. Temporary in the sense that it will ultimately take second place once the novelty wears out. Without opening a can of worms, the novelty does wear out after a while especially in the Nigerian scene!

As someone outside of the Nigerian system, i raised this thread simply to get a wide range of views on what the Nigerian scene has to offer, not to project the view that money drives my willingness to fly in Nigeria because if it did; i am certainly barking up the wrong tree!
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Common people, am sure there are more guys and/or ladies out there with an opinion on this thread, please share it with us all!

Just trying to reactivate this thread!
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Angry

I really find it insulting you started a thread to get info under false pretences about the nigerian situation JUST ASK OPENLY thats what this site is about, I have flown in nigeria all my career and can say I have not yet met an EXPAT pilot who hates the situation there, I've met racist pilots and fantastic pilots all stay at least 10years unless fired for unsafe attitudes. About MCC most captains in nigeria now respect their F/O and show great regard towards the cabin/ground staff not because they are forced to but they know what it takes to operate safely.
To sum up there are a few(VERY FEW) TIN GODS left in nigeria and I advise anyone looking for a safe(YES I DID SAY SAFE) enviroment to fly in and live in to come home and get a jod coz pay is now equal to and in some cases more than european levels.
I DO NOT KNOW ANY EXPATS IN ALL MY YEARS WHO GOT ATTACKED FOLLOWING BASIC SECURITY CONCIOUS RULES WHICH APPLY TO MOST 1st WORLD COUNTRIES AND AROUND AFRICA.
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Wo, Wo, Wo, Wo, slow down Nijasea, enough of your unwarranted attack which seems to be aimed at me. I am actually assuming its not aimed at me because i simply can't find any justification for your outburst considering you've positively contributed to this thread in the past.

PS: if you can't remember contributing or can't remember what questions i raised to start this thread, all you need do is scroll DOWN▼!

Then, i challenge you to let me know what your beef is all about! Peace man!

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CRJ job

I have been flying in Mexico for the last year and a half CRJ 200's and before that I flew DC-9's for 12 years. Plus all kinds of air Taxi, Corporate, Government , Instructing jobs I could find.
Would you advise me to try to get a job with ARIK?

Thanks!

I f I did get a a job there, how much money woud I be making?
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There's (or used to be) a Mexican Capt, Jose, flying the CRJ for Arik. He went there through Avionco, so maybe you can get in touch with him through them.
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Thanks!

We had lunch the other day and it was very insightful.

He is very happy with his assignments.

Best regards
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I guess we never met, then,

because I was in a mini-bus that got shot up pretty comprehensively, just going to work out at Murtala Muhammed Airport.

Broad daylight, middle of Isolo there by Chicken Tetrazzini, 0615, some dirtbags in a stolen "Danfo" (VW bus in Lagos taxi colours) blocked us in the usual go-slow, climbed out and just started shooting. So what were we doing wrong there?

The other two pilots were both wounded and I got off with just a fright. There were 13 holes in the bus, including one in the headrest next to mine and another in my seat cushion about the level of my shoulder blades. Oh, and a third one that would have got me in the ankles if I hadn't had my feet up on the wheelwell.

Good thing, too, that poster said "ex-pats." What, dead local pilots don't count?

One Captain from Mobil, shot dead by robbers on the steps of his Ikeja residence just before Christmas one year... that sort of put the mockers on Chrimbo, I can tell you!

Another Captain with Imani, I think it was, shot dead on the Agege Motor Road one afternoon one afternoon.

Jerry Agbeyagbe... ended up dead, no one really knows how. Of course that time, yes, he was out at Oh-dark-thirty, an arguably silly thing to do.

Not to come across as all gloomy and pessimistic but my personal impression of Lagos in particular and Nigeria in general was that you didn't have to be doing anything particularly stupid or dangerous to become a victim of an armed robbery or even just some bullet addressed, "To Whom It May Concern..." Much worse than that one with your name on it!
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Again!

Thanks for reminding us of ur famous episode again Chuks!

By the way remind us of the year again please.
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I guess that would also be the time that Bristow had at least 6 helicopters and their crews kidnapped and held hostage, plus another pilot kidnapped from outside the Shell camp in Warri. Aero only had 3 machines which were hijacked for very short times and no crews held in the bush like Bristow did. Some of those guys are still around, but some never really recovered from the experience. Now, down in Port Harcourt everyone leaves their so-called secure compounds only to go to work, with armed security escorts. I've been attacked several times in Nigeria, but been lucky to avoid serious injury . The fun has gone out of the place.
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When was the shooting? CRAP! Glad you made it out.
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Here is some pay info on Arik. Hope it helps. Good Luck!

Arik Air commenced operations with their inaugural flight on the 30
th
October
2006 using one of their three newly delivered CRJ900 aircraft. Since
October 2006 the airline has already increased their fleet size by introducing
2 x B737-300, 2 x B737-700, CRJ900 and Hawker800 aircraft. At present
their current fleet provides scheduled domestic passenger services as well
as ad hoc executive services. In August 2007 Arik Air will commence log
haul international services using two wet leased B747-400 aircraft. Further to
this the airline expects delivery of their first 777 aircraft in 2010 which will
facilitate the airlines international expansion.
In consideration of the airlines fast expanding operations they are currently
seeking applications from qualified flight crew personnel for permanent
positions with an operating base in Nigeria. Knowing that successful
candidates will originate from various locations worldwide the airline has
implemented a well structured schedule allowing crew members return home
for four consecutive weeks at a time after eight weeks of service.
Opportunities with Arik Air will offer successful candidates very positive and
attractive long term career prospects with the possibility of command
upgrades and even further possibilities to move on to larger aircraft
types as the airline continues to grow.
CRJ200/900 Instructor
CRJ200/900
Line Captains
CRJ200/900
First Officers
Client airline will pay tax free salaries on a monthly basis at the following
rates
USD8, 500 per month
USD7, 500 per month
USD 3, 000- USD 5,000 per month (dependant on candidate experience)
Per Diem
Crewmembers will be paid a per diem of NGN 10,000 (Approx USD80) per
day at layovers and outstations.
Operating Base
Crewmembers shall be based in Lagos, Nigeria.
Accommodation
Crewmembers will be provided by the client airline with fully furnished
apartments in a newly developed secure complex. Onsite facilities include NOT BUILT! YOU WILL STAY AT A GUEST HOUSE. WHICH HAS SEEN BETTER DAYS. BRING TONS OF MOSQUITO REP
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No problem,

Zazoo, the date was easy to remember, 10 September, 2001. I guess that is why it never made it into the world news, eh?

If your point is that it happened more than six years ago, well, mine is that there is no particular reason it should not happen again in more-or-less the same way. Well, maybe the dirtbags learn to shoot better, so that they could kill us all with an AK-47 at near point-blank range; that much could be different! Too, since then the situation has deteriorated further in Nigeria so that levels of crime are even higher than six years ago. Or have I got that wrong?

What passes for police in Nigeria, huh! They never bothered to investigate the incident seriously so that the perpetrators were never caught. A couple of guys came out, looked at the holes in the bus and went away. That was all.

The Shell doctor gave us some little white pills to help us sleep; so much for being a sub-contractor, I guess. There were some fine words about their deep concern for us but nothing like practical help to keep it from happening again.

The Company continued to run the same vehicle (holes patched up) past the same point, albeit slightly later in the day, 0630, arguing that, well, "It only happened once." I could hardly wait for "twice" to see what explanation that would bring! Probably, yes, that we had done something wrong.

There are opportunities in Nigeria, sure. Good luck to anyone else who wants to try his luck; I had some good times there and I still have a warm spot for the people.

On the other hand, a normal European might have no idea of the levels of danger there to be found.

Don't waste your time and mine reading war stories but go to the US Department of State website for travel advisories, for example.

Definitely check with a doctor who is experienced in tropical diseases before you go.

Have a think about the fact that the standard of driving in Nigeria is insanely dangerous, too. The ride to the airport can be the worst part of your day, no fooling.

If anyone wants to take at face value a statement that living in today's Nigeria is "safe" well, I have $30 million in a blocked bank account that I am willing to share with anyone who wants to give me their account details, okay? (That's just a bit of sarcasm: there is no $30 million, just as there isn't much safety in Lagos. In other words, check it out very, very carefully before you decide to go work there.)
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