KAS operator in Central Africa
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King Air Servces, 2 Kingair 200's based in Khartoum, and 4 Vans based in the field, Nyala, El obeid, Juba and Wau. They also always need Van crew
FDR ... anything to add ??????
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Helicopter operator - news from 2006
Helicopter at centre of High Court tug-of-war
The Mercury March 17, 2006
A High Court dispute is raging between Gauteng-based King Air Services Partnership and the office of KwaZulu-Natal Premier S'bu Ndebele over the ownership of a 1996 Bell helicopter.
The province maintained in papers before the Pietermaritzburg High Court that it had temporarily leased the helicopter to King Air on June 26 last year, while awaiting a decision by the province's Central Procurement Committee on whether to accept an offer from the company to buy both the helicopter and a Baron fixed-wing aircraft from the province.
The province maintained that the lease agreement was cancelled when King Air's offer was not accepted, and that it had since accepted an offer from another buyer.
Graeme Clarke of King Air maintained that his company had concluded a valid agreement of sale with the province and that it had tendered payment of the agreed purchase price.
He stated in court documents that although ownership had not yet passed to his company, the company demanded compliance with the alleged agreement.
The Mercury discovered on Thursday that the sheriff of the high court had attached the helicopter, which had been grounded at Lanseria Airport pending the outcome of the case.
According to an affidavit by Ndanduleni Mutheiwana, General Manager of Air Transport, Gaming and Betting in the province, the offer to purchase the helicopter and aircraft by King Air had been turned down by the procurement committee on September 1 2005.
The date for the next hearing of the dispute is April 28.
The Mercury March 17, 2006
A High Court dispute is raging between Gauteng-based King Air Services Partnership and the office of KwaZulu-Natal Premier S'bu Ndebele over the ownership of a 1996 Bell helicopter.
The province maintained in papers before the Pietermaritzburg High Court that it had temporarily leased the helicopter to King Air on June 26 last year, while awaiting a decision by the province's Central Procurement Committee on whether to accept an offer from the company to buy both the helicopter and a Baron fixed-wing aircraft from the province.
The province maintained that the lease agreement was cancelled when King Air's offer was not accepted, and that it had since accepted an offer from another buyer.
Graeme Clarke of King Air maintained that his company had concluded a valid agreement of sale with the province and that it had tendered payment of the agreed purchase price.
He stated in court documents that although ownership had not yet passed to his company, the company demanded compliance with the alleged agreement.
The Mercury discovered on Thursday that the sheriff of the high court had attached the helicopter, which had been grounded at Lanseria Airport pending the outcome of the case.
According to an affidavit by Ndanduleni Mutheiwana, General Manager of Air Transport, Gaming and Betting in the province, the offer to purchase the helicopter and aircraft by King Air had been turned down by the procurement committee on September 1 2005.
The date for the next hearing of the dispute is April 28.
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August 29 2006 at 09:55AM A dispute between Gauteng-based King Air Services Partnership and the office of KwaZulu Natal's premier and the director-general for KZN over ownership of a Bell helicopter has been settled.
The settlement agreement was confirmed by a court order granted in the Pietermaritzburg High Court on Monday.
In terms of the agreement, King Air Services Partnership is to pay the premier's office R5 502 500 after receipt of an invoice issued by the province in respect of the 1996 Bell 206L-IV Long Ranger helicopter.
King Air Services Partnership will become the registered owner of the helicopter on confirmation by another company, Bonus Way 16 (Pty) Ltd, that it has received payment due to it from the premier's office.
August 29 2006 at 09:55AM A dispute between Gauteng-based King Air Services Partnership and the office of KwaZulu Natal's premier and the director-general for KZN over ownership of a Bell helicopter has been settled.
The settlement agreement was confirmed by a court order granted in the Pietermaritzburg High Court on Monday.
In terms of the agreement, King Air Services Partnership is to pay the premier's office R5 502 500 after receipt of an invoice issued by the province in respect of the 1996 Bell 206L-IV Long Ranger helicopter.
King Air Services Partnership will become the registered owner of the helicopter on confirmation by another company, Bonus Way 16 (Pty) Ltd, that it has received payment due to it from the premier's office.
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Engineers
Engineers don't last too long on KAS contracts, major turnover of engineers at both Kinshasa and Entebbe. Looks like the same is happening in Lanseria
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South Coast .... take on UN contracts
I agree, totally naive way to run a business.
I think what normally happens is a company comes across a contract through someone who has a mate in the UN or something similar.
So, the company get the contract, they have a fairly unqualified group of people running their operations office who are now tasked to run the contract.
It is fine until unplanned maintenance is needed, fine until unplanned or even planned time off for the crews is required, basically, the snow ball has started to gather speed.
The low wages they pay the people in the office to manage and run the contracts reflects the level of qualification and experience those they employ have.
It is an age old situation, and this is not disrespectful to anyone.
'You pay peanuts and you get monkeys'
Simple!
Yes, it is a crap way to run a business, but the whole contract scene in SA is rotten, the UN and likes pay huge money for these contracts and there is absolutely no reason why the SA company should not make a good profit and pay their crews a decent salary.
Lets face it, all the directors still drive around in their BMW's and Merc's and 4x4's, oh and lets not forget the conflicts of interest by those concerned, forming consortiums of directors and buying planes which are then leased to the company they work for to go on contract for a fixed number of hours, regardless of how many hours the contract pays.
Oh, and who decides what plane to source and use on contract, the very managers/directors who own the planes.
I think what normally happens is a company comes across a contract through someone who has a mate in the UN or something similar.
So, the company get the contract, they have a fairly unqualified group of people running their operations office who are now tasked to run the contract.
It is fine until unplanned maintenance is needed, fine until unplanned or even planned time off for the crews is required, basically, the snow ball has started to gather speed.
The low wages they pay the people in the office to manage and run the contracts reflects the level of qualification and experience those they employ have.
It is an age old situation, and this is not disrespectful to anyone.
'You pay peanuts and you get monkeys'
Simple!
Yes, it is a crap way to run a business, but the whole contract scene in SA is rotten, the UN and likes pay huge money for these contracts and there is absolutely no reason why the SA company should not make a good profit and pay their crews a decent salary.
Lets face it, all the directors still drive around in their BMW's and Merc's and 4x4's, oh and lets not forget the conflicts of interest by those concerned, forming consortiums of directors and buying planes which are then leased to the company they work for to go on contract for a fixed number of hours, regardless of how many hours the contract pays.
Oh, and who decides what plane to source and use on contract, the very managers/directors who own the planes.
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Getting paid in Euro's
Gautengflyboy post - And another thing: There seems to be a tendency developing with some companies to revert salaries to a Euro basis due to the current volatility of the Dollar. Could this possibly be on the cards for the South African operators as well. It certainly would make sense. In this past month, you could say that crew on contract have taken about 8% cut in salary due to the strength of the Rand. That's way too volatile to effectively budget month to month.
I hear that S&T's are included in the monthly salaries and Brenda taxes this as well ????????
I hear that S&T's are included in the monthly salaries and Brenda taxes this as well ????????
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Not too many rated HS125 pilots out there that want to earn USD , if you are talking Euros at a reasonable rate say 10000 pm to work in Kinshasa and Entebbe you might get a few bites.
Have KAS had more turnover of HS125 crew again ???
Not too many rated HS125 pilots out there that want to earn USD , if you are talking Euros at a reasonable rate say 10000 pm to work in Kinshasa and Entebbe you might get a few bites.
Have KAS had more turnover of HS125 crew again ???
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You definately could! Wouldnt be any where close to flying the Hs125 though. Only guys/gals that have been in the company for years get to fly those machines, works on a 'favourites' basis, not so much TT. They operate 1900's as well though, also in the DRC, One in Bunia, Other in Kinshasa last I heard.
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www.kingair.co.za
Graeme Clarke
Chief Executive Officer
Carlo Talevi
Responsible Person Aircraft
Bjorn Holmer
Responsible Person Flight Operations
Mark van Buuren
General Manager
If you checkout their website, they have their phone number and map in Lanseria. One of these guys should be able to help you
Chief Executive Officer
Carlo Talevi
Responsible Person Aircraft
Bjorn Holmer
Responsible Person Flight Operations
Mark van Buuren
General Manager
If you checkout their website, they have their phone number and map in Lanseria. One of these guys should be able to help you
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Helijet you seem to want to know a lot about KAS.
Why not PM me your email and all the questions and queries you have and I'll happily reply.
Fire
Don't hide behind your handle, find a pair.
Why not PM me your email and all the questions and queries you have and I'll happily reply.
Fire
Don't hide behind your handle, find a pair.
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Research on Company, in my humble opinion can't be a waste of space. By the sounds of it you might have valuable info to contribute. Maybe you work for them, or have worked for them. If so maybe answer some of the questions and enlighten us.
Better to be forewarned and forearmed, gives guys a better opportunity to decide on SOP's, training, maintenance and accommodation conditions before arriving on the job.
Do you know what the UN requirements are for Captains and F/O's on the HS125 and BE190
Research on Company, in my humble opinion can't be a waste of space. By the sounds of it you might have valuable info to contribute. Maybe you work for them, or have worked for them. If so maybe answer some of the questions and enlighten us.
Better to be forewarned and forearmed, gives guys a better opportunity to decide on SOP's, training, maintenance and accommodation conditions before arriving on the job.
Do you know what the UN requirements are for Captains and F/O's on the HS125 and BE190
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As 4g says..90% of the posts in this thread come from you...so "us" might not be all that interested, most are happy with the way their companies are run. In my experience the only people unhappy with companies have either been asked to leave or never send back on contact due to their lack of ability and general negative attitude towards an operation.
It seems you're the only person interested in KAS in this post and how the company is run...I still await your email and questions which will be happily answered or why not stop by the office next time you're at FALA.
As 4g says..90% of the posts in this thread come from you...so "us" might not be all that interested, most are happy with the way their companies are run. In my experience the only people unhappy with companies have either been asked to leave or never send back on contact due to their lack of ability and general negative attitude towards an operation.
It seems you're the only person interested in KAS in this post and how the company is run...I still await your email and questions which will be happily answered or why not stop by the office next time you're at FALA.
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Due diligence
Fireitup ... you obviously work for KAS, here are some of the questions extracted from the previous threads.
1.Does anybody know what they pay their pilots and engineers.?
2.What is their maintenance like if they are in places like the DRC and Sudan.? Is there danger pay, etc.
Read an interesting post on Kinshasa DRC-aflame where both you and 4G made comments on what was happening at KZAA - thus the question on danger pay etc
3.Do they have Hangars and maintenance equipment in these places, or are they a bush type operator?
4.What are their accommodation facilities like?
5.Do these guys pay on time?
6.What are their training standards? If it takes 1.4 to do a HS125 rating for a P2.?
7.Do they use FSI in the UK for sim training?
8.Do you know what the UN requirements are for Captains and F/O's on the HS125 and BE190?
9.Do they pay in Euro's now that the USD has taken a major tumble on the forex market?
Have received PM's from previous employees, would be great to get the goods from the employer.
Bit tough to visit FALA when on is based in Port Harcort, Nigeria ... few Nigerians interested in working for your company, they have also worked in Equatorial Guinea and have citation x ratings as well. Heard you do have a Kenyan pilot on your staff.
1.Does anybody know what they pay their pilots and engineers.?
2.What is their maintenance like if they are in places like the DRC and Sudan.? Is there danger pay, etc.
Read an interesting post on Kinshasa DRC-aflame where both you and 4G made comments on what was happening at KZAA - thus the question on danger pay etc
3.Do they have Hangars and maintenance equipment in these places, or are they a bush type operator?
4.What are their accommodation facilities like?
5.Do these guys pay on time?
6.What are their training standards? If it takes 1.4 to do a HS125 rating for a P2.?
7.Do they use FSI in the UK for sim training?
8.Do you know what the UN requirements are for Captains and F/O's on the HS125 and BE190?
9.Do they pay in Euro's now that the USD has taken a major tumble on the forex market?
Have received PM's from previous employees, would be great to get the goods from the employer.
Bit tough to visit FALA when on is based in Port Harcort, Nigeria ... few Nigerians interested in working for your company, they have also worked in Equatorial Guinea and have citation x ratings as well. Heard you do have a Kenyan pilot on your staff.
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