Anyone have any info of Solisos Airline???
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I watched them land in a thunderstorm (less than 1/8 mile vis, about 2 inches of water on the runway in +TSRA) this past summer; they skidded by me nearly sideways as they tried to put their left main gear back ON to the runway, and my colleagues and I (we had chosen to wait until the weather cleared before we took off) ran out towards it, fully expecting to be pulling bodies out of the wreckage at the end of the runway. When the flying mud and water cleared, the tracks on the grass showed that they had touched down with the left mains off the runway and took out several runway lights on their offroading excursion. They didn't seem to be bothered (the tower didn't see what happened since the visibility was so bad) - they just hosed the mud off, did a quick turnaround (maybe enough time to clean the crap off the seats) and left.
Is that the kind of info you want to know?
Cheers!
Is that the kind of info you want to know?
Cheers!
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http://www.sosolisoairline.com/
I like how they attribute the crash last year solely to a "Natural Disaster." No mention of the pilot decision making to fly into said natural disaster.
I like how they attribute the crash last year solely to a "Natural Disaster." No mention of the pilot decision making to fly into said natural disaster.
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Incredible contract
Hello, I am glad to see a discussion about this airline here, because I just got offered a pilot position but the contract seems a little bit to good to be true, for instance they are offering a monthly salary of 34 000 USD !!!
I am wondering what's the catch ? Are the job really safe ? Are we gonna transport some illegal freight like arms or drugs ?
I am suppose to start working the 29th of january. The thing is I got a job right now and I am not sure I want to leave with so much questions in my mind ...
Please HELP !!!!
Here is a copy of the contract they send me :
1.0 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
Sosoliso Airline Corporation Nigeria Limited seek to employ your services as an
expatriate pilot for the provision of piloting services as stipulated in the following
acts in this document. This document embodies the approved Terms for the purpose
of this contract.
2.0 POSITION
I am wondering what's the catch ? Are the job really safe ? Are we gonna transport some illegal freight like arms or drugs ? I am suppose to start working the 29th of january. The thing is I got a job right now and I am not sure I want to leave with so much questions in my mind ...
Please HELP !!!!
Here is a copy of the contract they send me :
1.0 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
Sosoliso Airline Corporation Nigeria Limited seek to employ your services as an
expatriate pilot for the provision of piloting services as stipulated in the following
acts in this document. This document embodies the approved Terms for the purpose
of this contract.
2.0 POSITION
: Commercial Pilot
You will serve as a commercial pilot for the requirements of Sosoliso Airline
Corporation Nigeria Limited in Nigeria.
RESPONSIBILITY
Your responsibility entails final authority as to the safety operation of aircraft
assigned to. You must understand the FAR’s and comply at all times, coordinating
tasks to permit flight fueling, loading, passenger handling etc and associated duties
to covey passengers in a safe manner in accordance with company policies and
procedures. Pilots are team members both in cockpit (CRM) and with other
operational department. You are expected to present a professional image at all
times, including grooming standards and demeanors as a key representative of the
company to both external customers and Internal employees. All jobs must be
carried out in line with the HSE operational policy.
You would be expected to resume on site on the 29th of January 2007.
Prior to resumption as inscribed above, you shall also be expected to start your job
processes by acquiring and procuring your necessary Residence/Work permits
papers (With the Nigeria Immigration Services) on or before the 24th December,
2006 as a sign of readiness to enable you receive all your due entitlements/
emoluments prior to resumption of duty to enable you settle all domestic necessities
before embarking on project trip and avoidance of excuses leading to delays on your
side.
3.0 CONSULTING PERSONNEL:
You shall be expected to work lead a team of prime experienced pilots with the
mandate to provide excellent services.
4.0 ENTITLEMENTS:
All salary and expense figures shall be in U.S. Dollars (USD), Sterling or Euros
equivalent depending on employee home country and salary preference, (except
where employee prefers currency on his/her local/home currency).
4.1 SALARY:
Salary shall be paid monthly based on the number of fight hours flown each month
on Sterling or Euros equivalent depending on home country and currency
preference. A reserved pilot will receive a minimum of 75 credit hours per month.
Line holders pay is based on 82 to 92 hours and is paid on the higher of scheduled or
actual flight time. Our pay scales are negotiated by the Air Line Pilots Association
(ALPA) and are the highest in the regional airline industry. Work time shall be 40
hours work week for the Twelve (12) month contract term as such employee shall
also be entitled to over-time allowance if employee work time exceeds the official
stipulated hours. Salary shall also be liable to increments with time and employees'
official promotions and position in service.
Monthly salary is $34000USD (Thirty Four Thousand Dollars).
5.0 EXPENSES:
Expenses incurred by the employee related to job before commencement of duties
will be substantiated with receipts and the employer will reimburse the employee not
later than Five (5) working days after submission of employees expense report and
receipts.
5.1 ACCOMODATION:
First class accommodations will be provided for employee. Accommodation shall be
of first class international standard same as accommodates Sosoliso Airline
Corporation Nigeria Limited expatriate senior and management staff. Employer
shall also pay for and provide complete meals for employee / (Family) as deem
appropriate for period of contract.
5.2 TRAVEL:
$3,600.00 flat rate travel/entertainment allowance shall be paid to employee by
employer for each intercontinental trip. Travel shall be by business class/first class.
However for the purpose of commencement, the cost of travel ticket shall be paid in
addition to travel/entertainment allowance. Cost shall be substantiated and shall be
the rate charged at the Period/time of purchase. Employer shall also take care of
employees' travel ticket including that of employees' family only on employees' early
notification to employer and as shall be requested by employee.
5.3 MEALS:
This will be taken care of by us (employer).
5.4 MOVING EXPENSES:
The employee will be reimbursed by the employer for reasonable moving expense
incurred only as a result of relocation or early termination of leases, storage
charges; procurement of travel documents, immunizations etc. Reimbursements
shall be paid not more than five (5) Working days from submission of report/and
receipts as proof of payments.
5.5 MEDICAL EXPENSES:
Employer will provide the employee with comprehensive health care for the term of
contract, and follow-on care for injuries suffered during the term of contract for
employee and family.
5.6 OTHER ALLOWANCES AND/OR BENEFITS:
This shall be provided for as deemed appropriate, and will be paid by employer.
. Quality single or family housing in company community.
. Personal effects shipment and excess baggage allowances.
. Free medical care in Nigeria for you and your family for contract duration.
5.7 VACATION:
Employees' shall be authorized paid two times vacation during the term of the
contract, to be used at the employee’s discretion after duly informing and receiving
approval from employer’s management. Employer will pay for travel expenses (i.e.
flight tickets) and flat Rate travel allowance of US$3,600.00.
5.8 MOBILIZATIONS:
The first monthly salary shall be paid in advance before you embark on journey to
assume duty. This is to enable you settle all domestic needs before travel. As such no
excuses will be entertained on assumption of duty relating to default. All payment of
Salary after assumption of duty in Nigeria shall be 75% paid into an offshore
account to be provided by employee with the remaining 25% paid locally in Nigeria.
This is in line with the Federal Republic of Nigeria expatriate financial statutory
laws. Expatriate shall also be liable to pay 10% of salary as withholding tax to the
relevant authority in Nigeria.
5.9 CONTRACT:
This is with effect from 29th of January 2007, when the contractor/consultant
assumes duty in Nigeria.
Corporation Nigeria Limited in Nigeria.
RESPONSIBILITY
Your responsibility entails final authority as to the safety operation of aircraft
assigned to. You must understand the FAR’s and comply at all times, coordinating
tasks to permit flight fueling, loading, passenger handling etc and associated duties
to covey passengers in a safe manner in accordance with company policies and
procedures. Pilots are team members both in cockpit (CRM) and with other
operational department. You are expected to present a professional image at all
times, including grooming standards and demeanors as a key representative of the
company to both external customers and Internal employees. All jobs must be
carried out in line with the HSE operational policy.
You would be expected to resume on site on the 29th of January 2007.
Prior to resumption as inscribed above, you shall also be expected to start your job
processes by acquiring and procuring your necessary Residence/Work permits
papers (With the Nigeria Immigration Services) on or before the 24th December,
2006 as a sign of readiness to enable you receive all your due entitlements/
emoluments prior to resumption of duty to enable you settle all domestic necessities
before embarking on project trip and avoidance of excuses leading to delays on your
side.
3.0 CONSULTING PERSONNEL:
You shall be expected to work lead a team of prime experienced pilots with the
mandate to provide excellent services.
4.0 ENTITLEMENTS:
All salary and expense figures shall be in U.S. Dollars (USD), Sterling or Euros
equivalent depending on employee home country and salary preference, (except
where employee prefers currency on his/her local/home currency).
4.1 SALARY:
Salary shall be paid monthly based on the number of fight hours flown each month
on Sterling or Euros equivalent depending on home country and currency
preference. A reserved pilot will receive a minimum of 75 credit hours per month.
Line holders pay is based on 82 to 92 hours and is paid on the higher of scheduled or
actual flight time. Our pay scales are negotiated by the Air Line Pilots Association
(ALPA) and are the highest in the regional airline industry. Work time shall be 40
hours work week for the Twelve (12) month contract term as such employee shall
also be entitled to over-time allowance if employee work time exceeds the official
stipulated hours. Salary shall also be liable to increments with time and employees'
official promotions and position in service.
Monthly salary is $34000USD (Thirty Four Thousand Dollars).
5.0 EXPENSES:
Expenses incurred by the employee related to job before commencement of duties
will be substantiated with receipts and the employer will reimburse the employee not
later than Five (5) working days after submission of employees expense report and
receipts.
5.1 ACCOMODATION:
First class accommodations will be provided for employee. Accommodation shall be
of first class international standard same as accommodates Sosoliso Airline
Corporation Nigeria Limited expatriate senior and management staff. Employer
shall also pay for and provide complete meals for employee / (Family) as deem
appropriate for period of contract.
5.2 TRAVEL:
$3,600.00 flat rate travel/entertainment allowance shall be paid to employee by
employer for each intercontinental trip. Travel shall be by business class/first class.
However for the purpose of commencement, the cost of travel ticket shall be paid in
addition to travel/entertainment allowance. Cost shall be substantiated and shall be
the rate charged at the Period/time of purchase. Employer shall also take care of
employees' travel ticket including that of employees' family only on employees' early
notification to employer and as shall be requested by employee.
5.3 MEALS:
This will be taken care of by us (employer).
5.4 MOVING EXPENSES:
The employee will be reimbursed by the employer for reasonable moving expense
incurred only as a result of relocation or early termination of leases, storage
charges; procurement of travel documents, immunizations etc. Reimbursements
shall be paid not more than five (5) Working days from submission of report/and
receipts as proof of payments.
5.5 MEDICAL EXPENSES:
Employer will provide the employee with comprehensive health care for the term of
contract, and follow-on care for injuries suffered during the term of contract for
employee and family.
5.6 OTHER ALLOWANCES AND/OR BENEFITS:
This shall be provided for as deemed appropriate, and will be paid by employer.
. Quality single or family housing in company community.
. Personal effects shipment and excess baggage allowances.
. Free medical care in Nigeria for you and your family for contract duration.
5.7 VACATION:
Employees' shall be authorized paid two times vacation during the term of the
contract, to be used at the employee’s discretion after duly informing and receiving
approval from employer’s management. Employer will pay for travel expenses (i.e.
flight tickets) and flat Rate travel allowance of US$3,600.00.
5.8 MOBILIZATIONS:
The first monthly salary shall be paid in advance before you embark on journey to
assume duty. This is to enable you settle all domestic needs before travel. As such no
excuses will be entertained on assumption of duty relating to default. All payment of
Salary after assumption of duty in Nigeria shall be 75% paid into an offshore
account to be provided by employee with the remaining 25% paid locally in Nigeria.
This is in line with the Federal Republic of Nigeria expatriate financial statutory
laws. Expatriate shall also be liable to pay 10% of salary as withholding tax to the
relevant authority in Nigeria.
5.9 CONTRACT:
This is with effect from 29th of January 2007, when the contractor/consultant
assumes duty in Nigeria.
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Russian Roulette
Men these guys should just paint their planes yellow and black, cos they are no different from the buses out there.
Cheers,
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this look like a scam letter to me,the sosoliso i know will not pay 34000 usd per month,although sosoliso airlines does exisit its presently grounded by the authourities due safety oversights and insurance
this look like a scam letter to me,the sosoliso i know will not pay 34000 usd per month,although sosoliso airlines does exisit its presently grounded by the authourities due safety oversights and insurance
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Agree entirely, not sure why they would be recruiting when they are grounded indefinitely!! and dont mean to be a pesimist, but I doubt very much whether they or any other Nigerian airline would pay $34 K.p/m as a starting point.
Agree entirely, not sure why they would be recruiting when they are grounded indefinitely!! and dont mean to be a pesimist, but I doubt very much whether they or any other Nigerian airline would pay $34 K.p/m as a starting point.
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If it seems to be too good it probably is, no company would pay 34K unless your youre going to fly coke or something.
They seem to be really f -up.
Merry chrismas
They seem to be really f -up.
Merry chrismas
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Sosoliso Airlines's AOC was revoked by the NCAA and it's almost 100% certain they will never fly again.
To compound the nightmare for the owners, the French civil aviation authority contacted and warned the NCAA days ago about Sosoliso's forging of parts certificate documents.
Sosoliso is history, save yourself the hassle and energy.
To compound the nightmare for the owners, the French civil aviation authority contacted and warned the NCAA days ago about Sosoliso's forging of parts certificate documents.
Sosoliso is history, save yourself the hassle and energy.
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News !!!
I found that on http://www.thetidenews.com/article.a...olumn=AVIATION
an article from Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006
...Chief Ikwueniesi ...
He said the airline may resume operations next week, stating that the management expected that by Friday the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) may have return the Air Operator Certificate (AOC) of the airline. He also disclosed that the airline is expecting two more new aircraft before the first week of January, stressing that the aircraft recently acquired two new aircraft that are not less than five years...
Anybody has info about that ?
an article from Wednesday, Dec 13, 2006
...Chief Ikwueniesi ...
He said the airline may resume operations next week, stating that the management expected that by Friday the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) may have return the Air Operator Certificate (AOC) of the airline. He also disclosed that the airline is expecting two more new aircraft before the first week of January, stressing that the aircraft recently acquired two new aircraft that are not less than five years...
Anybody has info about that ?
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The 34k is the FIRST month's salary. Then you will be in the country and the next trick will be to keep getting paid, or if you quit, to try to get the return leg of your relocation costs paid. 
Assuming off course that you are not by then sitting in a Nigerian jail for breach of contract or something similarly dreamt up.
BTW, Merry Christmas and hapy festered season to you all, wherever you are, fly safe and be good.
UL.
Then you will be in the country and the next trick will be to keep getting paid, or if you quit, to try to get the return leg of your relocation costs paid. Assuming off course that you are not by then sitting in a Nigerian jail for breach of contract or something similarly dreamt up.
BTW, Merry Christmas and hapy festered season to you all, wherever you are, fly safe and be good.
UL.
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.......Hey Survey, I was dumbfounded for some minutes after reading your post. You mean these 'Liso guys play "Russian Roulette" with lives??? No offence, but guess they had that PH thing coming. Meanwhile, I've been reading in the news something about fake/forged documents and certificates. Anyone know about this?
Men these guys should just paint their planes yellow and black, cos they are no different from the buses out there.
Cheers,
V1.
Men these guys should just paint their planes yellow and black, cos they are no different from the buses out there.
Cheers,
V1.
All photos taken from the mid-field taxiway, the first two shortly after the incident.
The first one looks towards the touch-down zone, the second one looks down the runway to where they got all wheels back on to it and started to skid, and the third one is after things dried up and you can sort of see the skid marks on the runway, about 1000' - 1500' from the end.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...i-IMG_4529.jpg
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spearomic,
All said and done, that is one scam they hope you fall for
.
Sosoliso is not registered as a corporation to start with, and i know for sure, there aint NO airline in Nigeria Paying that kinda money ; Hell! I'd be home in a flash!
As far as i know for now, or at least till the government changes in may next year, sosoliso is not flying because the AOC was not suspended, but revoked!
You may wanna rethink making a move in that direction mate, you might be the one who ends up paying out that $34k.
Merry Christmas mate!
All said and done, that is one scam they hope you fall for
.Sosoliso is not registered as a corporation to start with, and i know for sure, there aint NO airline in Nigeria Paying that kinda money
; Hell! I'd be home in a flash!As far as i know for now, or at least till the government changes in may next year, sosoliso is not flying because the AOC was not suspended, but revoked!
You may wanna rethink making a move in that direction mate, you might be the one who ends up paying out that $34k.
Merry Christmas mate!
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From what I have read in their rejoinder to these claims,sosoliso management claim the aircraft a DC9,came with the parts being scrutinised and for which they have presented documentary proof,and they have metioned which company they purchased the aircraft from.
They also claim that the aircraft had not been used for eighteen months prior to the accident,and was put up for sale.
So you detractors should SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
NCAA are doing a great job,and the media should support them by ensuring the facts as they are is reported in full,so these speculators dont ruin reputations unnecessarily.
The ADC aircraft that crashed was leased to ADC by an Irish Man Chris Geohaegan who represents an American Based company,who was also responsible for the maintenance but you dont see his name here or in the media.
Independent investigation has attributed the crash of Sosoliso to weather phenomenon.Why dont you quote that you misguided sooth sayers.
They also claim that the aircraft had not been used for eighteen months prior to the accident,and was put up for sale.
So you detractors should SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
NCAA are doing a great job,and the media should support them by ensuring the facts as they are is reported in full,so these speculators dont ruin reputations unnecessarily.
The ADC aircraft that crashed was leased to ADC by an Irish Man Chris Geohaegan who represents an American Based company,who was also responsible for the maintenance but you dont see his name here or in the media.
Independent investigation has attributed the crash of Sosoliso to weather phenomenon.Why dont you quote that you misguided sooth sayers.
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First, you should take it easy! No need to bad mouth anyone.
Second, I'm not sure what your real position is towards SOSOLISO. If you are defending their record as a so-called "airline" - that would be a reflection of your own professional conduct. Now beside the fact that the Sosoliso crash claimed dozens of children's lives, it's very obvious the crew elected to land during severe thunderstorms and windshear activity in a hazardous field such as PHC (prone to power outage and ILS going bezerk). Granted the weather "centres" are unreliable, the fire engines irresponsive, etc. This is absolutely no excuse to take risks. Aero and VK are now behaving accordingly and should be commended+emulated.
Can anyone honestly say Sosoliso operated to book? What about training schemes for the crew, the airline never commented about this. Their attitute towards customers is pathetic hence their schedule disruption every time an aircraft goes to Euro for its checks. The French came forward with evidence that some of their parts are fake (Sosoliso ignorance about this issue does not absolve them of the blame/responsibility ).
In conclusion, tokunbo airlines run by chiefs/godfathers/ogas/alhajis/obas should take a hike, and save a few children's lives while they show us their back!
PS. I wouln't bet on Sosoliso coming back post May 2007 because NCAA is now autonomous, and it seems NCAA's sharp teeth were eyeing Sosoliso waaaaaaaay before their autonomy was legislated+signed into law.
Second, I'm not sure what your real position is towards SOSOLISO. If you are defending their record as a so-called "airline" - that would be a reflection of your own professional conduct. Now beside the fact that the Sosoliso crash claimed dozens of children's lives, it's very obvious the crew elected to land during severe thunderstorms and windshear activity in a hazardous field such as PHC (prone to power outage and ILS going bezerk). Granted the weather "centres" are unreliable, the fire engines irresponsive, etc. This is absolutely no excuse to take risks. Aero and VK are now behaving accordingly and should be commended+emulated.
Can anyone honestly say Sosoliso operated to book? What about training schemes for the crew, the airline never commented about this. Their attitute towards customers is pathetic hence their schedule disruption every time an aircraft goes to Euro for its checks. The French came forward with evidence that some of their parts are fake (Sosoliso ignorance about this issue does not absolve them of the blame/responsibility
).In conclusion, tokunbo airlines run by chiefs/godfathers/ogas/alhajis/obas should take a hike, and save a few children's lives while they show us their back!
PS. I wouln't bet on Sosoliso coming back post May 2007 because NCAA is now autonomous, and it seems NCAA's sharp teeth were eyeing Sosoliso waaaaaaaay before their autonomy was legislated+signed into law.
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AVSEC,
Take it easy man! I do understand your frustration with certain posts that might not have the full facts, but people are only repeating what they heard/read from other sources. Your claim seems to say "well, there was windshear, we flew into it and crashed.-it's not our fault" I am dumbfounded by that!!!!!
With regards to the Sosoliso incident in PH last year, I was very incensed when I saw that they were attributing the cause of the crash to natural weather phenomena. I have seen a copy of the report although I don't have it with me now, but I remember that some of the causes identified were:
1) The crews' decision to continue an approach into an area of expected windshear
2) Their decision to continue the approach lower than the DH while not stabilsed or even on the ILS in poor visibility.
3) Their late decision to execute a go-around
4) Touchdown was on the grass between the runway and taxiway
etc,etc,
There were other contributary causes of the fatalities as well, including but not limited to a)the poor/non-existent fire cover at the airport. b) the inappropriate placement of the concrete berm the aircraft struck, but the airline must be blamed fully.
I wonder why immediately after the accident, Sosoliso was in the press every other day advertising the fact that they had just recruited an American training captain. That to me looks like the actions of an airline that knew they'd done something wrong. How they got along without training captains before the accident, I don't know.
Take it easy man! I do understand your frustration with certain posts that might not have the full facts, but people are only repeating what they heard/read from other sources. Your claim seems to say "well, there was windshear, we flew into it and crashed.-it's not our fault" I am dumbfounded by that!!!!!
With regards to the Sosoliso incident in PH last year, I was very incensed when I saw that they were attributing the cause of the crash to natural weather phenomena. I have seen a copy of the report although I don't have it with me now, but I remember that some of the causes identified were:
1) The crews' decision to continue an approach into an area of expected windshear
2) Their decision to continue the approach lower than the DH while not stabilsed or even on the ILS in poor visibility.
3) Their late decision to execute a go-around
4) Touchdown was on the grass between the runway and taxiway
etc,etc,
There were other contributary causes of the fatalities as well, including but not limited to a)the poor/non-existent fire cover at the airport. b) the inappropriate placement of the concrete berm the aircraft struck, but the airline must be blamed fully.
I wonder why immediately after the accident, Sosoliso was in the press every other day advertising the fact that they had just recruited an American training captain. That to me looks like the actions of an airline that knew they'd done something wrong. How they got along without training captains before the accident, I don't know.