Mango - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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Ahhhhh Jetnut....whilst I agree
There are, but the average ex-SAA guy has seen it all before and it not inclined to say such a thing to ATC, there are a whole lot of low hours ex Safair/and other pilots working for Mango who have not worked it out yet and believe they are Gods gift to aviation.....my thought is they are more likley the culprits of beforementioned low class behaviour
Lots of frustrated ex-SAA over 60's flying for mango
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If memory serves me correctly, there were several posts commenting on questionable R/T from their drivers when Mango started, funnily enough.
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ATC in SA is a pleasure to operate with, just go north of the Limpopo and decide for yourselves.
Even the Transavia crew from Holland currently flying the B737-800 for Kulula will fully agree that its a pleasure dealing with SA ATC compared to European traffic flows and volumes....they just don't like our summer CB's.
Even the Transavia crew from Holland currently flying the B737-800 for Kulula will fully agree that its a pleasure dealing with SA ATC compared to European traffic flows and volumes....they just don't like our summer CB's.
off and go do it then, you tit.
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I agree with Oom Kaspaas...
Go do with your time whatever you want, speak to the Chief Pilot at Mango, dont come and wash your dirty laundry here.
You obvisouly did not hear the whole ATC / Mango conversation. Sometimes the area and approach controller dont seem to share the same planning.
Go do with your time whatever you want, speak to the Chief Pilot at Mango, dont come and wash your dirty laundry here.
You obvisouly did not hear the whole ATC / Mango conversation. Sometimes the area and approach controller dont seem to share the same planning.
doesn't seem to think it's too much fun at all
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Fluffyfan wrote: "There are, but the average ex-SAA guy has seen it all before and it not inclined to say such a thing to ATC, there are a whole lot of low hours ex Safair/and other pilots working for Mango"
And now the mud-slinging must go against the former Safair guys? Maybe all us former Safair guys around the world should start responding in typical SAA fashion.
And now the mud-slinging must go against the former Safair guys? Maybe all us former Safair guys around the world should start responding in typical SAA fashion.
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Replies 10 & 11
Oom Kaspaas and Jangys,
Personally I think your joint replies to this thread stink.
Left10Degrees posted what I see as a very valid point and judging by other responses I am not alone.
Your kind of attitudes is not what this Industry needs, wise up guys and relax.
Personally I think your joint replies to this thread stink.
Left10Degrees posted what I see as a very valid point and judging by other responses I am not alone.
Your kind of attitudes is not what this Industry needs, wise up guys and relax.
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I see how my comment on having better things to do with my off time struck a nerve with posters 10 and 11. It wasn't meant to insult or degrade the regulars on here - to clarify - I was merely stating that my daughters swimming lessons and my sons kite surfing school for eg. take priority - and to ME - those are "better things".
I would like to reiterate though that that whole "I'm the Captain and do as I command" attitude in the cockpit is dangerous and has no place in modern aviation.
Too many accident have been the result of the "I can do it on my own" mentality!
L.T.D.
I would like to reiterate though that that whole "I'm the Captain and do as I command" attitude in the cockpit is dangerous and has no place in modern aviation.
Too many accident have been the result of the "I can do it on my own" mentality!
L.T.D.
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"I'm the Captain and do as I command"
[QUOTE]
"I can do it on my own"
In your original post you remark on the inappropriate comms by the Mango crew. Now you accuse them of an unsafe operation and make your own assumptions in there attitudes. I think you just want to stir.
Threatening that you are going to report it to the Mango ops and release the PIC's name is all blah-blah-blah. Do what you feel is right but PLEASEEEE go on with your life.
I fully agree there is no space for arrogance in the cockpit but make sure you have all the facts!!! ( Sorry, I forgot this is a rumour network....as you were)
"I'm the Captain and do as I command"
[QUOTE]
"I can do it on my own"
In your original post you remark on the inappropriate comms by the Mango crew. Now you accuse them of an unsafe operation and make your own assumptions in there attitudes. I think you just want to stir.
Threatening that you are going to report it to the Mango ops and release the PIC's name is all blah-blah-blah. Do what you feel is right but PLEASEEEE go on with your life.
I fully agree there is no space for arrogance in the cockpit but make sure you have all the facts!!! ( Sorry, I forgot this is a rumour network....as you were)
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LTD had a perfectly valid point - regardless of the facts, there's no need to backchat over the frequency unless there is a valid safety concern. I know the temptation to fire off an incisive reply over the RT is there, but just bite your tongue. Ask for a telephone number and discuss it after the fact like mature adults. I've done that before, and the controllers are more than willing to admit fault, or explain the situation as they saw it. There's no need to get all excited by this form of 'peer review' on the forum, comments like 'Eff off tit' are just ridiculous.
