Comair Transforming SA Aviation
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Comair Transforming SA Aviation
Well Checked the Sunday times and Comair is hiring cadets from the previously disadvantaged groups. Well Done Comair. Well the big boys in SA Aviation are setting the example which should be followed by the rest.
These little strides are vital if we ever going to have representivity in this industry.
These little strides are vital if we ever going to have representivity in this industry.
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Well there go the chances of yet another few dozen deserving,hard slogging white males who've battled on,flying crap aeroplanes around the continent living i warzones and trying to get a decent flying job in their own country...
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FFS. Maybe they can donate some money to everybody else so they can also afford to do it...aviation training isn't free. Maybe then their 'heroic' example can be followed by 'the rest'. Until then us mortals will have to comply with basic Financial Reality 101.
P.S. This is old news. I would have thought you already knew about this, being so interested in racial transformation in SA aviation.
P.S. This is old news. I would have thought you already knew about this, being so interested in racial transformation in SA aviation.
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Afriaviation
I realy feel sorry for you, I sincerely do.
You just cant let this go, can you? When are you going to realise that everything in life must take a natural course? It takes time for a flower to develop in the beautifull thing it is and for a tree to grow so we all enjoy the shade it provides. It takes time for a child to develop into an adult and if you force the issue, something is going to get lost in the process.
Wrongs were done in the past, we all acknowledge it. But thats just it....its in the past. Lets look to the future and build it together. Why try force stuff down peoples throats just to window dress.
Let go of if man.....allow it to follow its own natural course.....
Fly safe and proud
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You just cant let this go, can you? When are you going to realise that everything in life must take a natural course? It takes time for a flower to develop in the beautifull thing it is and for a tree to grow so we all enjoy the shade it provides. It takes time for a child to develop into an adult and if you force the issue, something is going to get lost in the process.
Wrongs were done in the past, we all acknowledge it. But thats just it....its in the past. Lets look to the future and build it together. Why try force stuff down peoples throats just to window dress.
Let go of if man.....allow it to follow its own natural course.....
Fly safe and proud
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Hang in there guys. As far as I know, only two cadets to join shortly. 7 or so resignations in the last few months so things are going to move and I'm sure there will be more to come.
If I can say it.....vasbyt manne!!!!
If I can say it.....vasbyt manne!!!!
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What's the Fuss?
I do not really understand the fuss - Comair has been doing this for a while now...
I do feel that in a certain way, cadets are being deprived of a great deal of "experience" due to these systems of rectifying the past...?
How many of them will still be flying after 10 years (Airline flying can be boring)? But if you have those other aviation experiences to back you up, it is easy to APPRECIATE every second of every flight.
The same as the age old Rich Family scenario:
1st Generation: Very poor and starts working hard towards something
2nd Generation: Builds on these and makes gr8 success
3rd & 4th Generation: Gets it in the lap and lets it slide until theres nothing left.
What i'm saying, if you get it 4 free, you won't mind losing it so easy.
Give them all 200hr ME/IF Ratings, but let them go "work" for the experience first - then lets c how many are still there... The ONE's who really want to, i bet you will be.
It is sad, but on a daily basis I c the elements who really do not even want to fly, but now they have done this thing.....
I do feel that in a certain way, cadets are being deprived of a great deal of "experience" due to these systems of rectifying the past...?
How many of them will still be flying after 10 years (Airline flying can be boring)? But if you have those other aviation experiences to back you up, it is easy to APPRECIATE every second of every flight.
The same as the age old Rich Family scenario:
1st Generation: Very poor and starts working hard towards something
2nd Generation: Builds on these and makes gr8 success
3rd & 4th Generation: Gets it in the lap and lets it slide until theres nothing left.
What i'm saying, if you get it 4 free, you won't mind losing it so easy.
Give them all 200hr ME/IF Ratings, but let them go "work" for the experience first - then lets c how many are still there... The ONE's who really want to, i bet you will be.
It is sad, but on a daily basis I c the elements who really do not even want to fly, but now they have done this thing.....
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This post confuses me. How can anyone say that airlines are moving forward because of said cadet training scheme.
BULL!
Go and have a look at 'pilot jobs in africa' post. Hundreds of unemployed pilots of which il guess at a quarter are South African.
Praising an airline for moving forward when they are training guys up to comm level when they could have a local and hardworking guy with 1000+ twin turbine at the least. Moving forward, Get real!!!!!
Cheers,
Wings.
BULL!
Go and have a look at 'pilot jobs in africa' post. Hundreds of unemployed pilots of which il guess at a quarter are South African.
Praising an airline for moving forward when they are training guys up to comm level when they could have a local and hardworking guy with 1000+ twin turbine at the least. Moving forward, Get real!!!!!
Cheers,
Wings.
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I do not really understand the fuss - Comair has been doing this for a while now...
This will be the second batch of cadets to start training thru Comair scheme.
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What is with Comair though, heard they lost 9 pilots this week, but still have about 17 guys waitlisted who have passed sim & interviews and have being buying time for over a year (for some) to get their start date.
So I could (God willing) get an interview in a month then and perhaps a start date in time for 2010 World Cup when they need me after the cadets who have been disadvantaged since 1994 get their run..................................
So I could (God willing) get an interview in a month then and perhaps a start date in time for 2010 World Cup when they need me after the cadets who have been disadvantaged since 1994 get their run..................................
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Airforce1, no movement = no resignations. Hang in there as I said already. It's hard but vasbyt! As they say good things come to those who wait!It will happen and you'll wonder what you fussed about!
Good luck........
Good luck........
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This sort of post makes me pissed. Afrivation you should change your name to agrivation! You clearly have been given a job that you do not deserve, so be thankful and please shut the hell up! I'm a non-white pilot but I don't hold this chip on my shoulder that you do. Do I want that airline job someday - for sure, do I want it handed over to me on a silver plate because of my skin colour - never in a million years. Your ignorant comments make it harder for the guys coming up the normal way, cutting their teeth in the industry to get the recognition they deserve - black or white. Have I worked hard for my CPL and to get were I am now - yes, am I willing to work harder to get that cushy job that's been shoved down so many unwilling, ungrateful, undeserving throats - for sure! Please everyone forgive my anger but this guys incessant and irresponsible whining just pisses me off! 
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ag its the same as everything in this country-"we want it all and we want it NOW" is the attitude...no foresight that good pilots come out of the G.A. ranks,and are not just 'created' to order and fill quotas.
And as for those people who go on and on about how wonderful the BEE programmes are...you're getting it your way,but most of the rest of us find your arrogant crowing quite tiresome.
And as for those people who go on and on about how wonderful the BEE programmes are...you're getting it your way,but most of the rest of us find your arrogant crowing quite tiresome.
Está servira para distraerle.
Cannot quite fathom the concept here of previously disadvantaged groups.
Previously never had to go to school, never had to learn to read or write, never had to work, never had to take responsibility. Always had special tables reserved, always had special toilets, always protected from Kilimanjaro snowlike trash. Helpfully had to carry reminder of name and address, helpfully had to be in bed with lights out at certain times and helpfully never allowed to carry guns.
Encouraged to sit around doing nothing, smiled at for drinking beer to excess, discreetly prevented from taking up dangerous jobs such as flight crew.
Allowed to play with dynamite underground, allowed to tinker with boats and bicycles, allowed to drive around in very old cars looking distinctly tatty.
All this under a warm sun with the sea side never so far away.
I've been trying to put this sort of retirement package together all my working life.
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