Cash strapped 1-Time ????
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Cash strapped 1-Time ????
Rumour has it that 1-Time is on a 'CASH ONLY' basis with the aircraft fuel suppliers at JIA. Also has anyone noticed that thier aircraft seem to be standing a lot more often than they should be and thier pax getting passed onto other airlines ?
Is this the beginning of the end for 1-Time or is it just me ?
Is this the beginning of the end for 1-Time or is it just me ?
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I've heard that they are using Safair 737's now and parking the DC-9's. Perhaps the price of fuel? Or reliability issues?
Hope for the sake of some good crews working for 1-Time that they can pull it through.
Hope for the sake of some good crews working for 1-Time that they can pull it through.
The comments on this thread are HIGHLY irresponsible. This is a rumour network, I appreciate, but this is the stuff which cripples airlines.
For your information, I have just confirmed with 1Time's offices that they are STILL flying (DC-9s too!) as we speak. And yes, it appears they are getting new aircraft as well - 737s apparently...
WHAT parked DC-9s????!!!!
For your information, I have just confirmed with 1Time's offices that they are STILL flying (DC-9s too!) as we speak. And yes, it appears they are getting new aircraft as well - 737s apparently...
WHAT parked DC-9s????!!!!
Well, I am VERY concerned about this lot since I have no less than 12 (TWELVE) return tickets booked and a pre-booked and paid for holiday with them for myself and family for a holiday next week Friday between Cape Town and East London.
I have requested comments from Simone at their public relations department and reported this thread to them.
I have requested comments from Simone at their public relations department and reported this thread to them.
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Rumour has it wrong yogi. No problems with 1time or its cash.
In fact, things have never been better. Take delivery of the next aircraft - MD83 - in the next 2 weeks, it is currently being prepared at Safair. DC9 is being returned.
Will carry the millionth passenger in the very near future. Load factors look good. Also some new routes this year.
In fact, things have never been better. Take delivery of the next aircraft - MD83 - in the next 2 weeks, it is currently being prepared at Safair. DC9 is being returned.
Will carry the millionth passenger in the very near future. Load factors look good. Also some new routes this year.
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This is extremely irresponsible.
The DC 9 parked at JNB is there for a reason- its been given back to the owners.
The MD 80 was parked in CTN because it was awaiting a loaner engine after FOD ingestion.
They are using 737's from Safair for very good financial reasons and are about to implement their third MD80.
The DC 9's will slowly go but 1Time is only going forward.
Why is so much criticism being weilded against such a great airline?????? I believe their fuel arrangements have always been the same-cash on a weekly basis in any case.
Lets rather concern ourselves with the bottomless pit that the taxpayers continue to fill in the governments support for an airline that doesnt need to make money...............
The DC 9 parked at JNB is there for a reason- its been given back to the owners.
The MD 80 was parked in CTN because it was awaiting a loaner engine after FOD ingestion.
They are using 737's from Safair for very good financial reasons and are about to implement their third MD80.
The DC 9's will slowly go but 1Time is only going forward.
Why is so much criticism being weilded against such a great airline?????? I believe their fuel arrangements have always been the same-cash on a weekly basis in any case.
Lets rather concern ourselves with the bottomless pit that the taxpayers continue to fill in the governments support for an airline that doesnt need to make money...............
Totally agree with FUG and Skyhooker. I now have it on good authority that 1time is actually in very good shape, and this is JUST a rumour (malicious though it seems).
One of their DC-9s is in for routine maintenance, and naturally, they are leasing a Safair aircraft in it's place meanwhile - what's wrong with THAT?
And their fleet IS expanding - they are taking delivery of another MD 83 within the next few weeks (currently being prepared by Safair).
Yogi, where did you get your info from? You are talking k_k boet!
And I am very suspicious that you are probably an agent for SA_ or Kul__a, and if you ARE, then you are a DISGRACE!
Cessnafan : Tell your mate to duck and/or otherwise keep a low profile....
Go 1time go!
One of their DC-9s is in for routine maintenance, and naturally, they are leasing a Safair aircraft in it's place meanwhile - what's wrong with THAT?
And their fleet IS expanding - they are taking delivery of another MD 83 within the next few weeks (currently being prepared by Safair).
Yogi, where did you get your info from? You are talking k_k boet!
And I am very suspicious that you are probably an agent for SA_ or Kul__a, and if you ARE, then you are a DISGRACE!
Cessnafan : Tell your mate to duck and/or otherwise keep a low profile....
Go 1time go!
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Hey !!!!!
Keep your frikken pants on guys......I was merely asking a question on this site...after all it is a Rumour network is it not????
This information was passed onto me and I wanted to find out if anyone knew what was going on........sheesh talking about sensitive souls out there
barryt.....I dont know you and you dont know me so dont go calling people things ok ???
I was merely trying to find out sheesh !!!!!
PS: I am not an 'AGENT' for SA_ or KU_a as 'blarryt' so nicely puts it........they could not pay me enough to do that
Chill out guys......there is enuff going on these days without trying crap on every person who asks a simple question....
Keep your frikken pants on guys......I was merely asking a question on this site...after all it is a Rumour network is it not????
This information was passed onto me and I wanted to find out if anyone knew what was going on........sheesh talking about sensitive souls out there
barryt.....I dont know you and you dont know me so dont go calling people things ok ???
I was merely trying to find out sheesh !!!!!
PS: I am not an 'AGENT' for SA_ or KU_a as 'blarryt' so nicely puts it........they could not pay me enough to do that
Chill out guys......there is enuff going on these days without trying crap on every person who asks a simple question....
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I have flown with 1time on several occassions and am very impressed with their service, price and state of aircraft.
Did anyone hear about k-l-l-'s turnback on Tuesday evening at Jhb International Airport? Apparently emergency services had to escort them back in.... wonder what happened there??
I've had the same experience with them before and a scary exercise I can tell you...
Did anyone hear about k-l-l-'s turnback on Tuesday evening at Jhb International Airport? Apparently emergency services had to escort them back in.... wonder what happened there??
I've had the same experience with them before and a scary exercise I can tell you...
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Hey Yogibear!!!! Is that you Jorg??
I think so. Sour grapes maybe that you didnt get the nod to be accepted by 1Time???
No reason to be malicious and spread totally inaccurate rumours about a sound airline.
Get a life.........or a job!!!!!
I think so. Sour grapes maybe that you didnt get the nod to be accepted by 1Time???
No reason to be malicious and spread totally inaccurate rumours about a sound airline.
Get a life.........or a job!!!!!
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hey guys
1 time is a very good airline , and doing very well.
i think it will out last all of them.
in ref to cash for fuel , alot of airlines pay cash for fuel on weekly basis.
go 1 time
1 time is a very good airline , and doing very well.
i think it will out last all of them.
in ref to cash for fuel , alot of airlines pay cash for fuel on weekly basis.
go 1 time
I'm sorry 4HolerPoler, and I respect the forum's rules, however in this case, I have to disagree with you I am afraid. I feel that in some cases a "rumour" can go too far, with a potential very negative effect, as was the case here. I am sure you will agree with me that often the "hard media" picks up things from these "rumour" forums and takes them as hard gospel fact, and reports as such (irresponsible as it may be).
I feel that you as moderator should have toned this lot down long before I started posting, and should have realised yourself that this is potentially a dangerous situation, with people's actual livelihoods at stake. It would be the responsible thing to do.
It's no good hiding behind the fact that it's a "rumour" forum, and anything goes. It doesn't in some cases I feel, and I am disappointed at your approach and attitude here - you are, in effect, condoning the situation where an airline could potentially be put in jeopardy, so I most certainly whole heartedly disagree with you on this one. One needs to make a stand for integrity sometimes, even if it means "breaking the rules" of the forum on the odd occasion.
Of course, you are the moderator, so you can just delete this response, I know, but if you don't, then I will believe you have integrity and are not one of those editors who believes in "freedom of the press stops right here on my desk"...
You've had your warning barryt - you are a guest on this site - please feel free to post your opinions but do not advise others as how to post - by all means disagree with other's stances but respect the freedom of other's speech & avoid demanding retractions & apologies based on your knee-jerk reaction, driven partly by the fact that you have a few tickets on the subject airline. And by all means report the content of posts to Mbeki himself - it will have no effect on the ability of members to continue to post their rumors. 4HP
I feel that you as moderator should have toned this lot down long before I started posting, and should have realised yourself that this is potentially a dangerous situation, with people's actual livelihoods at stake. It would be the responsible thing to do.
It's no good hiding behind the fact that it's a "rumour" forum, and anything goes. It doesn't in some cases I feel, and I am disappointed at your approach and attitude here - you are, in effect, condoning the situation where an airline could potentially be put in jeopardy, so I most certainly whole heartedly disagree with you on this one. One needs to make a stand for integrity sometimes, even if it means "breaking the rules" of the forum on the odd occasion.
Of course, you are the moderator, so you can just delete this response, I know, but if you don't, then I will believe you have integrity and are not one of those editors who believes in "freedom of the press stops right here on my desk"...
You've had your warning barryt - you are a guest on this site - please feel free to post your opinions but do not advise others as how to post - by all means disagree with other's stances but respect the freedom of other's speech & avoid demanding retractions & apologies based on your knee-jerk reaction, driven partly by the fact that you have a few tickets on the subject airline. And by all means report the content of posts to Mbeki himself - it will have no effect on the ability of members to continue to post their rumors. 4HP
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Skyhooker !!!!
Wrong guy altogether bud......so maybe you get a life huh ?????
...guys c\'mon huh......I did not create or start the rumour.....it was already out there and now you guys are getting all sanctimonious and taking things personally..........do you guys do this with all the other rumours that abound in all the other forums.
If you read my original post it started with \'Romour has it\'.......but hey I guess not every-one reads things properly do they????
And now you guys are all crapping all over me???...well crap away guys....if it makes your little narrow minds feel better !!!!!!
PS: If my spelling is not correct.....sorry for you !!!
PPS: Hot gossip from JIA domestic departures.......that SAFAIR has taken over 1-Time.....guys this is a rumour that has come my way so before you all get on your little soap boxes and crap all over me..........I would like to know if this IS just a rumour like the last one or is this possibly true ?????
Wrong guy altogether bud......so maybe you get a life huh ?????
...guys c\'mon huh......I did not create or start the rumour.....it was already out there and now you guys are getting all sanctimonious and taking things personally..........do you guys do this with all the other rumours that abound in all the other forums.If you read my original post it started with \'Romour has it\'.......but hey I guess not every-one reads things properly do they????
And now you guys are all crapping all over me???...well crap away guys....if it makes your little narrow minds feel better !!!!!!
PS: If my spelling is not correct.....sorry for you !!!
PPS: Hot gossip from JIA domestic departures.......that SAFAIR has taken over 1-Time.....guys this is a rumour that has come my way so before you all get on your little soap boxes and crap all over me..........I would like to know if this IS just a rumour like the last one or is this possibly true ?????
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yogibear, have you actually READ the previous posts mate?
To answer your question, a big NO, NADA, NYET. 1time is most definately not being taken over by Safair!
This IS a rumour yogi, and before some naive newspaper reporter or some such picks up on your little "bouncing ball" here and writes a story about it to potentially cause havoc for 1time (airlines trade on CONFIDENCE levels mate - think about that!), best you put this one to bed now....let your mates know out there who have started this rumour that they are badly misinformed, and are potentially causing a lot of totally unnecesary harm! Tell them to have a little integrity and establish the facts first before spreading potentially malicious rumours.
Repeat of previous posts for your convenience :
Safair (to my knowledge) is merely LEASING one of their aircraft (a 737 I think) to 1time WHILST they SERVICE one of 1time's MD's for it's routine maintenance and checks etc.
That's ALL there is to the "Safair" link/story/rumor or whatever you choose to call it, OK?...
Let it be known....there is a strong case for yogi being employed by Nationwide.....now it all makes sense...... These rumour forums are fun....weeeeeee......
To answer your question, a big NO, NADA, NYET. 1time is most definately not being taken over by Safair!
This IS a rumour yogi, and before some naive newspaper reporter or some such picks up on your little "bouncing ball" here and writes a story about it to potentially cause havoc for 1time (airlines trade on CONFIDENCE levels mate - think about that!), best you put this one to bed now....let your mates know out there who have started this rumour that they are badly misinformed, and are potentially causing a lot of totally unnecesary harm! Tell them to have a little integrity and establish the facts first before spreading potentially malicious rumours.
Repeat of previous posts for your convenience :
Safair (to my knowledge) is merely LEASING one of their aircraft (a 737 I think) to 1time WHILST they SERVICE one of 1time's MD's for it's routine maintenance and checks etc.
That's ALL there is to the "Safair" link/story/rumor or whatever you choose to call it, OK?...
Let it be known....there is a strong case for yogi being employed by Nationwide.....now it all makes sense......
These rumour forums are fun....weeeeeee......
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I don't want to get involved in the whole they are or aren't rubbish.........
.........but I can't help thinking that if this topic had the name CIVAIR instead of 1Time, you guys would be agreeing with him. Not moaning because jobs were at stake.
It's because the public didn't know the rumours about CIVAIR that they lost out.
People should be able to hear the rumours, then they can make up their own minds! You can't be selective about these things. It then gives other people, like you guys, the chance counter them.
The guy heard a rumour and passed it on. He didn't go for lunch with Bobby M!!!
.........but I can't help thinking that if this topic had the name CIVAIR instead of 1Time, you guys would be agreeing with him. Not moaning because jobs were at stake.
It's because the public didn't know the rumours about CIVAIR that they lost out.
People should be able to hear the rumours, then they can make up their own minds! You can't be selective about these things. It then gives other people, like you guys, the chance counter them.
The guy heard a rumour and passed it on. He didn't go for lunch with Bobby M!!!