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Old 24th Jul 2005, 05:16
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LH A330 overrun in LOS

News sources indicate it was the brand-new D-AIKH.
Some blame faulty hyraulic system, others a deep pothole on 18L.
This gives a total of 5 overruns in 2 months.
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"Some blame faulty hyraulic system, others a deep pothole on 18L.
This gives a total of 5 overruns in 2 months."

If I were a gambler, I would opt for a pothole. If I drove heavy Iron and there was no pothole, I would see to one being dug before the boss found out I had broken his airplane.

5 in 2 months, as most here will say, "Yea, but its Africa." As if its expected that the accident/incident rate is acceptably off the scale.
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 07:12
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FAAN had stopped progress payments for the 18R resurfacing project.

Either they failed to eject and replace the under-performing contractor or they think relying on a stretch of pot-holes is acceptable and in the process wait for a time bomb to go off.

My VERY favorite quote:

"We can't afford to get messed around by pilots"
-The Incompetent Minister of Aviation, B. Borishade
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"We can't afford to get messed around by pilots"
Will we be expecting now a banning order by the minister, of those poor pilots or even a compulsory sim check on the new pothole avoidance procedure for the rest of us?
The Government must get their thumb out of their a$$ and get 18R up and running ASAP before lives are lost. I can imagine what the outcome will be if the emergency procedures and services are put to test. Beware of litigation FAAN, it is an expensive business. Getting 18R OPEN SOON MAY BE THE CHEAPER OPTION. A word is enough............
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A nigerian daily carried this:

A LUFTHANSA aircraft yesterday, skidded off the Murtala Muhammed Airport runway, after its front tyres burst due to some pot -holes on the only functional runway of the airport.

The aircraft's front tyres were said to have burst shortly after touch down on the runway 18L, forcing it to skid off the only functional runway.

The runway was closed for about an hour before it was removed from the spot of the incident.

The aircraft, an A330-300 from Frankfurt was en route Lagos and Accra, Ghana.

The airline while manouvering destroyed some navigation equipment around the airfield.

Lufthansa yesterday in Lagos confirmed the incident stating that the incident caused a damage to the aircraft, which ultimately grounded it.

According to Mr Kayode Olaniyan, the airline's spokesman in Nigeria who spoke with The Guardian on phone 'Lufthansa flight Number 564 from Frankfurt landed safely in Lagos this evening. As it was moving to the gate a damage occurred to the aircraft. This will require that Lufthansa technicians come from Germany to repair the damage. Nobody was injured and an alternative arrangement has been made for all the passengers flying to Accra to take them to their destination.'

Olaniyan who declined to explain the nature of damage to the aircraft said 'I cannot speculate on the extent of the damage until the technicians come to examine the aircraft.'

A source, who went to the scene said the incident happened around the area rainwater normally gather, which he said has caused a big pothole in the middle of the runway.

He said although the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) had patched the spot, it was not properly done adding that the incident occurred between exit three and four of the runway.

A source said the control tower was already alerting pilots on the part of the runway that was bad although the source added that FAAN had quickly patched the pot-hole.

This brings to four the number of near air mishap that has occurred in less than two months. Two domestic airlines' aircraft and foreign cargo plane have overrun the runway within the last two months resulting in closure of the runway for hours.

The state of the Lagos runway has become a serious concern to operators and pilots who have insisted that unless urgent action is taken sometyhing more serious may occur.

Penultimate week, an Air France aircraft with 196 passengers on board ran into a herd of cows on touch down at the runway of the Port Harcourt International Airport. The airport was closed for about eight hours.

A domestic operator, however, faulted the fire brigade approach of Federal Airport Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) adding that pilots are not magicians. FAAN has been accused of collecting huge fees from the users without adequate maintenace of its facilities.

Meanwhile, South African Airways said it had suspended all international flights because of a strike by its cabin crew and ground staff that began on Friday morning.

It called on passengers to postpone their travel plans or make alternative arrangements.
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Glad to read that there were no injuries!

The runway was closed for about an hour before it was removed from the spot of the incident.
Simply remove the runway: The Nigerian way of solving problems?
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The report must be a hoax....."navigation equipment on the airport damaged"???

We are talking about Lagos International right?

The Lagos in Nigeria?

Shame on them Lufties for "messing around"!

Why can they not dodge potholes in the dark?

Pilot error....yep...right....uh huh!
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 17:48
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Looks like the Virgin Nigeria flight 281 bound for London is cancelled. Way to go FAAN, very conducive for the "Lagos Hub" project. Clean up your act for safety first.
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Meanwhile, South African Airways said it had suspended all international flights because of a strike by its cabin crew and ground staff that began on Friday morning.
It called on passengers to postpone their travel plans or make alternative arrangements.
Like choosing more leg space in the wheel well? And when you get to the US you don't need to bug about customs & irritation, we'll drop you off on approach!
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Gets better by the minute..... This from www.thisdayonline.com


BA Plane Unable to Land in Lagos, Diverts to Abuja
By Samuel Famakinwa and Crusoe Osagie, 07.25.2005

A British Airways aircraft from London last night had to be diverted from Lagos to Abuja due to inability of the plane to land safely at the Murtala Mohammed International Airport in Lagos.
The British Airways Boeing 747-400 aircraft, was said to possess very huge landing gears and therefore too big to land on the Lagos Airport runway, which has experienced no less than five landing mishaps in the last few months.
Though other smaller aircraft could land on the runway larger ones in the league of Boeing 747 will be risking a major disaster if they dare to land on the Lagos runway.
The runway is said to have degenerated rapidly due to the repeated crash landings that have occurred on it in the last three months. About three weeks ago a cargo plane belonging to Almiron Aviation of Uganda overshot the runway; the same thing happened to Lufthansa German Airlines last Saturday.
A British Airways spokesman who confirmed the development to THISDAY yesterday explained that it was to ensure the safety of their passengers that the had to divert the plane to Abuja, stating that it was a risk too much to take if they attempted to land the aircraft in Lagos.
However some of the passengers to leave for London last night on the BA flight had to be taken to Abuja on a chartered Aero contractors flight, which will also bring some of the Lagos bound passengers who were on board the diverted BA flight to Lagos.
He added that the diverted aircraft was not able to fly out last night due to what he described as crew repositioning and so the crew that will fly the aircraft will arrive this morning on another BA flight.
Some passengers who did not travel last night will go on another flight that will take off today.
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The runway is said to have degenerated rapidly due to the repeated crash landings that have occurred on it in the last three months.
Sure.
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 10:24
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Well, if you repeatedly crash land with very huge landing gears, it's bound to stuff the runway, innit?
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 12:06
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Hang on here....I thought Chuks was on time off....there could not be that many hard landings if that was the case?
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Sas,

I think Chuks is on site at the moment, that's why we haven't had any pearls of wisdom for a while. But I'm sure we won't have long to wait !! Looking forward to it !!

Last time I was in Lagos it looked like PW had stopped work on the runway, something to do with release of funds (a familiar story sadly), so it looks like one step forward. two steps back for DNMM and their efforts at international recognition.

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Old 25th Jul 2005, 13:45
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Every new day with the status quo is a recipe for disaster!!!
Then it could get severely ugly for their PR (if any).

Think about it, everything so far is a backyard picnic when imagining other real scenarios (perhaps a skid followed by ground a/c collisions).

If human life is of any worth to FAAN or sensible airline, then a/c weight should be restricted to say A321 until 18R resurfacing is complete. AON could make a lot of money carrying the pax to/from ABV and PHC.


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NEO,

Reckon ol' Chuks will "drop in" on us and share a yarn? He does enjoy "bouncing" a good story off us now and then.
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Found this in IFALPA Daily Newsletter:

6. Lufthansa A330 damaged in Lagos landing incident
David Kaminski-Morrow, London (25Jul05, 12:15 GMT, 225 words)

German flag-carrier Lufthansa is assessing the damage to one of its Airbus A330s after the aircraft was apparently struck by runway debris as it landed at the Nigerian city of Lagos.

Flight LH564 had touched down normally following a service from Frankfurt on 23 July but was badly damaged by debris sucked up from the runway surface as the aircraft decelerated.

“[The pilot] applied reverse thrust and braking and some pieces of concrete from the runway hit the aircraft,” says a spokesman for Lufthansa, adding that the A330 was unable to reach the gate under its own power as a result of the incident.

He says that the carrier suspects the aircraft has been “severely” damaged but stresses that none of the passengers on board was injured. A technical team is to fly the twin-jet back to Germany for repairs.

Many of the passengers had been bound for the Ghanaian capital Accra, the onward sector of the flight. Lufthansa chartered an aircraft to transport passengers from Lagos to Accra.

Lufthansa has started using Airbus A340 aircraft for the Lagos services because, it says, the relatively higher mounting of the A340’s engines will reduce the risk of a recurrence.

Lagos Murtala Muhammed International Airport has suffered a number of setbacks in recent weeks, the latest involving a cargo aircraft which overran the runway on 13 July.

Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
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Grapevine says that BA will be bringing a 767 into Lagos until further notice due to concerns with the 747 using the runway.

They diverted to Accra on Saturday and to Abuja on Sunday because of these concerns.
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Sas,

Not sure when Chuks is due for release, but it can't be too long so we can expect some gems soon.

You planning a return visit anytime soon ? They're paying good day rates these days I hear.

Shame about Lagos, things were looking so promising. Don't suppose the American operators will be coming in the near future.

Cheers,

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NEO,

I will be in Redhill later this week on other business...I would stop in at Bristow there but I fear my voluminous treatise to the Mandarins there upon my exit last may have trod upon some sensitive toes. I made the mistake of believing they were serious when they asked for a critique of the Nigerian situation which existed at that time. Despite many of my suggested improvements having occurred I think maybe I was a bit too frank and honest for my own good. I am sure I took off some of my own toes while waxing so eloquently. They certainly have not been sending any Christmas Cards since my departure. I know some there would welcome me back and others would be consulting the chicken bones and animal parts trying to conjure up some serious Ju-Ju to hex me with.....I would certainly entertain returning to the fold if they ever decided all was forgiven but the chances of that are mighty slim. I am in a dead heat with a particularly nice South African fellow who also incurred the Mandarin wrath upon his last exits from the warm embraces of the new OLOG Bristow....seems neither of us fit into the desired mold.

There is one in HR that I would not accept tea from...for fear of being poisoned.....likewise....he should avoid any dark alleys I happen to spend a night in as well. If I returned...I am sure it would be to a posting where French would be required....and we all know how that sequel would turn out. Being a man of my word....I hate to leave promises unkept and having my retirement made....I can afford to look straight ahead without worrying about the future.

It would be fun to see my old friends again....and even some old enemies...lots of good folks out there and lots of good times. Having both friends and enemies marks a full life...at least one knows it was not without involvement. I would love to sit beside Chuks again and stir that small pot about and see the results. He is always good for a chuckle as are some others.

Keep yer noggin on a swivel....

Give my regards to the bossfellah at PHC....and the Geriatrics in Warri!
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