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Hi, ok:
How often does SAA take in cadet pilots?
I saw an advert in the Sunday paper recently for their cadet scheme (closing date 12 Aug 2K5), is this the only time that they take in pilots or do they select another batch in the beginning of the year (January?)
How often does SAA take in cadet pilots?
I saw an advert in the Sunday paper recently for their cadet scheme (closing date 12 Aug 2K5), is this the only time that they take in pilots or do they select another batch in the beginning of the year (January?)
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KOBUS ,boet,with a name like that,i don't fancy your chances with the cadet scheme...sorry bro but its HIGHLY B.E.E. focussed,so the White,Male,sector is not what they are really looking for.Rightly or wrongly,i believe they only really operate the scheme to promote "empowerment".
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I (unfortunately) have to agree with the others Kobus. I am leaving the country as Jakes Gerwel and Khaya Ngqula are of the opinion that because I'm of European decent, I am not part of the demographics of the "new" SAA.
Sorry, but that's the truth.
Sorry, but that's the truth.
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Hiya guys!Didn't ANYONE ever see the group of cadets selected previously? Maybe I'm color blind, but I DID see a white male there. I can't remember his name, but Google will.
Captain Cumulonimbus, thanks for making me laugh! I reaa-llyy needed that.
"With a name like that"
I think what this forums needs is a change of attitude towards the programme. A little positivity wouldn't kill you. You're so detached on the B.E.E. ideology that you've totally lost touch of the fact that white males are STILL regarded, contrary to popular belief.
All this is doing is discouraging people from the cadet program. I'm not saying that if you're a white male then your chances aren't as good enough as a black female, but you still do stand a chance. Remember that.
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I said "rightly or wrongly"...i'm not passing judgement on the cadet scheme or BEE,in fact i think it is a necessary measure in our society,but it does get very frustrating for those who are denied on demographic grounds.It is,however,NOT VERY LIKELY that,as a white male,you will get in.That is reality .I think most other people here would agree.
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When i spoke to someone last year that had been through the course the stats were something like this:
SAA on average has 2 intakes a year of +- 8-14 new students.
There are something like 1000 applications for each intake.
OF the 8-14 positions they will SOMETIMES reserve one of those places for a white male.
Not the most favourable stats to ponder over if you are a white male. There is poobably more chance of Kevin Peterson playing cricket for South Africa this December than there is for that single spot. Statistically it could happen though.
I'm not sure if these stats are completely accurate just from what i heard.
SAA on average has 2 intakes a year of +- 8-14 new students.
There are something like 1000 applications for each intake.
OF the 8-14 positions they will SOMETIMES reserve one of those places for a white male.
Not the most favourable stats to ponder over if you are a white male. There is poobably more chance of Kevin Peterson playing cricket for South Africa this December than there is for that single spot. Statistically it could happen though.
I'm not sure if these stats are completely accurate just from what i heard.
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Kobus I wish you luck – but for your own sake please don’t rely on getting in, infact expect not to.
True my info is “second hand” as I’m a ground hugger but from my visits (inspections) at SAA it seems that they have changed the “tokens” – the white faces you see are the token whites – after all SA is a rainbow nation.
And I’ve heard LOTS of stories about “indigenous Africans” making major errors and being forgiven vs “non indigenous Africans” making very minor errors and being out / demoted / transferred.
I once REALLY wanted a job with a specific airline, so much so I concentrated almost exclusively on them and after the interview actually turned work down cause I was sure I was going to get my dream – I got it.
As the Irish say “I hope you get what you want AND want what you get
True my info is “second hand” as I’m a ground hugger but from my visits (inspections) at SAA it seems that they have changed the “tokens” – the white faces you see are the token whites – after all SA is a rainbow nation.
And I’ve heard LOTS of stories about “indigenous Africans” making major errors and being forgiven vs “non indigenous Africans” making very minor errors and being out / demoted / transferred.
I once REALLY wanted a job with a specific airline, so much so I concentrated almost exclusively on them and after the interview actually turned work down cause I was sure I was going to get my dream – I got it.
As the Irish say “I hope you get what you want AND want what you get
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,just out of interestKOBUS ,howcome you're so interested in the cadet scheme if your profile says you're a 737-800 pilot with an ATPL?
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I think kobus is trying very hard to wind us up.........
He asks a question, gets a few replies and then jumps in to correct us all.....as if he knew the answers in the first place.
Will be sure to take all his future questions/answers with a pinch of salt.....as he clearly seems to know it all.
SN
He asks a question, gets a few replies and then jumps in to correct us all.....as if he knew the answers in the first place.
Will be sure to take all his future questions/answers with a pinch of salt.....as he clearly seems to know it all.
SN
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I being a white male, and not being able to afford to learn to fly applied to the cadet scheme applied five, yes five times, on the third attempt i flew two sim sessions in a very basic mock up of a prodedural trainer, nothing fancy, was told this was the final 74 people of selection, didn't get any further than that. Now not saying it was a racist thing ( personally think i made stupid mistakes) at all but the next intake had 1 sim session, and every intake has different selection phases, no commonality, my flight school at which i work is presently biddding for the cadet scheme training, will i then have to instruct the candidates in a program to which i no longer am eligible to apply for because i have more than 60hours and then one day let them be my superiors if i ever manage to get into our flag carrier, which would be my dream come true?
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Let me just say one thing. Not even the guys who are on the selective comitee think that their sons will have a chance. The training captains and chief pilots at SAA are sucking up to the guys/girls at Comair, Kulula.com etc.. so their sons can get a job there.
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Where were you guys 20 years ago when the Air Force trained nobody but white males to fly ? Nobody complained then....
That too was a sponsored flying training program for a priviliged few.
And so, now a large majority of senior captains at SAA are ex-SAAF. Earning over 1.5 million a year...sending their kids to the best schools and eventually getting them into an airline career too (be it even Comair, Kulula etc.),and so on and so on, this is a chainlink process that will continue for generations.
How do other deserving South Africans start their chain of events for their families, if they never had an opportunity to get even one foot in the door ? Do you see a dilemma. Any suggestions.
That too was a sponsored flying training program for a priviliged few.
And so, now a large majority of senior captains at SAA are ex-SAAF. Earning over 1.5 million a year...sending their kids to the best schools and eventually getting them into an airline career too (be it even Comair, Kulula etc.),and so on and so on, this is a chainlink process that will continue for generations.
How do other deserving South Africans start their chain of events for their families, if they never had an opportunity to get even one foot in the door ? Do you see a dilemma. Any suggestions.