SACAA at the Oscars.
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SACAA at the Oscars.
SACAA Acting Academy
Just looking at the personnel make up at the SACAA, one cannot help but labelling it "an Acting Academy". The SACAA is now so
up, with 90% of all senior personnel in Acting positions, including the Board of Directors.
How does this look:
All Acting!
The Board of Directors
The Commissioner
The CEO
The Head of the Legal Dept.
The Manager Air Safety Operations
The Head of Helicopters
The Head of Part 121 (Airlines)
The Head of Aircrew Licensing
The Head of Accident Investigations
The Head of the Kitchen
Now one can understand why these clowns are all trying to outdo one another. They're all trying to get permanent appointments. Now one can also understand why there is so much in house "backstabbing" amongst the SACAA Personnel. They're all vying for "lazy Jeff's" attention, with the hope of "pulling the Oscar".
The Minister should be fired along with all these clowns. The SACAA have become a disgrace to the aviation industry in South Africa, and it wont be long before ICAO downrates the SACAA to a zero grade...... not worth mentioning. FUBAR!
(Its exactly become that... FUBAR)
The one time high and mighty, prestigious CAA, the Regulatory Authority of note.... have now become a pathetic, dysfunctional entity to which Jeff OBVIOUSLY could'nt care two hoots about. Zimbamboonland is the future of this lot. How pathetic!
The actions of these so called "Acting Chiefs" is self explanatory in other threads on the pprune. These people are breaking their own laws, and allowing certain people to break the laws for them without as much as lifting an eyebrow. When is the Oscar party Jeff?
Just looking at the personnel make up at the SACAA, one cannot help but labelling it "an Acting Academy". The SACAA is now so
up, with 90% of all senior personnel in Acting positions, including the Board of Directors.How does this look:
All Acting!The Board of Directors
The Commissioner
The CEO
The Head of the Legal Dept.
The Manager Air Safety Operations
The Head of Helicopters
The Head of Part 121 (Airlines)
The Head of Aircrew Licensing
The Head of Accident Investigations
The Head of the Kitchen
Now one can understand why these clowns are all trying to outdo one another. They're all trying to get permanent appointments. Now one can also understand why there is so much in house "backstabbing" amongst the SACAA Personnel. They're all vying for "lazy Jeff's" attention, with the hope of "pulling the Oscar".
The Minister should be fired along with all these clowns. The SACAA have become a disgrace to the aviation industry in South Africa, and it wont be long before ICAO downrates the SACAA to a zero grade...... not worth mentioning. FUBAR!
(Its exactly become that... FUBAR)The one time high and mighty, prestigious CAA, the Regulatory Authority of note.... have now become a pathetic, dysfunctional entity to which Jeff OBVIOUSLY could'nt care two hoots about. Zimbamboonland is the future of this lot. How pathetic!
The actions of these so called "Acting Chiefs" is self explanatory in other threads on the pprune. These people are breaking their own laws, and allowing certain people to break the laws for them without as much as lifting an eyebrow. When is the Oscar party Jeff?
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The way forward?
Bladestrap, I could not agree more. Given the handling of the Huey in Cape Town, I feel that the way forward is as follows:
1. If you have an intention of getting an aircrew licence at some stage in the future, then it is OK to carry paying passengers now even if your current inadequate licence is totally invalid.
2. Servicing of machines in terms of the current legislation is optional. CAA will assist if you show willingness to do it correctly, one day in the future. (Distant)
3. Approved parts are also optional. Any part vaguely resembling the original with corrected serviceability labels are acceptable.
4. AMO, AOC and other requirements are also at the option of the operator........
The CAA are genuinely trying to assist operators BUT they must remember that it must be within the law. You cannot turn a blind eye to flagrant breaches of the law!
The 'bunch of actors' must ensure that the standards are held high in terms of International norms. Failure to do this will, as predicted elsewhere, result in good operations being trashed internationally because of the association to the SA system.
1. If you have an intention of getting an aircrew licence at some stage in the future, then it is OK to carry paying passengers now even if your current inadequate licence is totally invalid.
2. Servicing of machines in terms of the current legislation is optional. CAA will assist if you show willingness to do it correctly, one day in the future. (Distant)
3. Approved parts are also optional. Any part vaguely resembling the original with corrected serviceability labels are acceptable.
4. AMO, AOC and other requirements are also at the option of the operator........
The CAA are genuinely trying to assist operators BUT they must remember that it must be within the law. You cannot turn a blind eye to flagrant breaches of the law!
The 'bunch of actors' must ensure that the standards are held high in terms of International norms. Failure to do this will, as predicted elsewhere, result in good operations being trashed internationally because of the association to the SA system.
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Go back a few months - it has all been said before - should the industry role players not be rallying together and making/forcing the SACAA to be more accountable? After all they can close you down, remove licenses/ratings if you misbehave. So if they are not up to scratch do not pay for the service they supposedly offer.
Why not just save yourself the few thousands you spend every year on crew licensing and AOC renewals etc and carry on without them. Maybe the industry will actually be better off and will see more growth.
OR - just consider your licensing fees the cost of the ticket to the OSCARS or the clown show at the circus........
Why not just save yourself the few thousands you spend every year on crew licensing and AOC renewals etc and carry on without them. Maybe the industry will actually be better off and will see more growth.
OR - just consider your licensing fees the cost of the ticket to the OSCARS or the clown show at the circus........
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Down with those that do not offer constructive critisism. The SACAA does have major problems and probably deserves a downgrading from the FAA but it's not going to happen, especially with the planned new Washington D.C. route. Try to be specific about your complaints and why be afraid to mention individuals. I believe there is an element within that cares and wants to improve. quicherbelliachin just for the sake of it. Hope I'm not just dreaming.
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Canthover, you've hit the nail on the head.
The Minister is to blame for the situation the SACAA currently finds themselves in. I mean, where in the world have you heard of any Regulating Authority having so many "Acting" positions? Because nothing is permanent, no one takes or makes any firm decisions. They just drift along and go with the flow.
The calibre of expertise employed by the SACAA borders on the pathetic. Because there were never any real "transfer of skill" in aviation in the old days, the Minister have now decided to try and do it in months. The result is that more and more unqualified people are appointed to key positions in the SACAA with disasterous results. Out of desperation they've even brought back former employees on a contract basis. What does that prove? That they can't find suitably qualified people, but are not willing to employ suitably qualified white people, because all white people are racist, they hate blacks, they will undermine them, lead them up the garden path, con them and will NEVER teach them anything. Wow, thats white people for you as per the definition in the ANC's manifest.
For example! There is no Grade 1 or DE "affirmative appointment" in the employ of the SACAA. So if the white faces there go, where does the standards go? Is Mr. Pule whatsename with 250 hours on R22's & R44's going to conduct ATP standard tests? Somehow I don't think so.
Take airworthiness. There are consistent arguments between black and white and NOBODY really knows what's going on. None of those inspectors/mechanics/officials have been able to work out something as basic as an Airworthiness Certificate. There's Standard & Restricted. Now also NTC Part 96 with "authority to fly" and none of those clowns there really know the difference. There are enough examples of pure f ups with Ex Denel Pumas now working in the commercial sector and others. One can only but wonder what's going through the minds of those clowns.
And you're right. All the mess ups do reflect badly on SA registered aircraft operating outside the borders of South Africa. Just recently the Commissioner and some of his cronies had to travel into Africa to go and explain to that country's CAA how they work and how they issue airworthiness certificates, because the ICAO standards that that country apply, did not rhyme with what the idiots at the SACAA had in mind. The result? Mumblings of +&*%#@ South Africans.
Its sad but tooooo true. The SACAA, just like the SAAF, is now in an advanced state of the death spiral.
The Minister is to blame for the situation the SACAA currently finds themselves in. I mean, where in the world have you heard of any Regulating Authority having so many "Acting" positions? Because nothing is permanent, no one takes or makes any firm decisions. They just drift along and go with the flow.
The calibre of expertise employed by the SACAA borders on the pathetic. Because there were never any real "transfer of skill" in aviation in the old days, the Minister have now decided to try and do it in months. The result is that more and more unqualified people are appointed to key positions in the SACAA with disasterous results. Out of desperation they've even brought back former employees on a contract basis. What does that prove? That they can't find suitably qualified people, but are not willing to employ suitably qualified white people, because all white people are racist, they hate blacks, they will undermine them, lead them up the garden path, con them and will NEVER teach them anything. Wow, thats white people for you as per the definition in the ANC's manifest.
For example! There is no Grade 1 or DE "affirmative appointment" in the employ of the SACAA. So if the white faces there go, where does the standards go? Is Mr. Pule whatsename with 250 hours on R22's & R44's going to conduct ATP standard tests? Somehow I don't think so.
Take airworthiness. There are consistent arguments between black and white and NOBODY really knows what's going on. None of those inspectors/mechanics/officials have been able to work out something as basic as an Airworthiness Certificate. There's Standard & Restricted. Now also NTC Part 96 with "authority to fly" and none of those clowns there really know the difference. There are enough examples of pure f
ups with Ex Denel Pumas now working in the commercial sector and others. One can only but wonder what's going through the minds of those clowns.And you're right. All the mess ups do reflect badly on SA registered aircraft operating outside the borders of South Africa. Just recently the Commissioner and some of his cronies had to travel into Africa to go and explain to that country's CAA how they work and how they issue airworthiness certificates, because the ICAO standards that that country apply, did not rhyme with what the idiots at the SACAA had in mind. The result? Mumblings of +&*%#@ South Africans.
Its sad but tooooo true. The SACAA, just like the SAAF, is now in an advanced state of the death spiral.
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Yes well....
Make no mistake, I have had my share of dealings with inept and under qualified characters at our beloved CAA (Cancel all Aviation???).
However, I must say that even so, there still are one or two guys and girls on the floor that actually know a thing or two and are really trying their best (even with the odds stacked against them) to help and get the average pilot and operator going.
I do however feel uncomfortable with the notion that PPL and Comm rated FOI's now have the authority to do inspections (and route checks and various other safety related inspections) at operators with aircraft they can only dream about.
FOI's coming out and asking (no - demanding) for conversions and "freelance" work so that they can fly, is also not that uncommon anymore - especially the "I can make things a lot easier for you if I can fly with you..." bit.
All it does is place the burden of ensuring a safe aviation environment back on each operator and pilot, and getting paid for it.
As for the acting, you have to admit, they really suck. Oscars - no way, Razzies all around....
However, I must say that even so, there still are one or two guys and girls on the floor that actually know a thing or two and are really trying their best (even with the odds stacked against them) to help and get the average pilot and operator going.
I do however feel uncomfortable with the notion that PPL and Comm rated FOI's now have the authority to do inspections (and route checks and various other safety related inspections) at operators with aircraft they can only dream about.
FOI's coming out and asking (no - demanding) for conversions and "freelance" work so that they can fly, is also not that uncommon anymore - especially the "I can make things a lot easier for you if I can fly with you..." bit.
All it does is place the burden of ensuring a safe aviation environment back on each operator and pilot, and getting paid for it.
As for the acting, you have to admit, they really suck. Oscars - no way, Razzies all around....
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It is true that in any organisation you will always find a couple of people that will go the extra mile. These are the loyal, dedicated employees who does their business proud. Thank goodness for those. The SACAA are lucky to have a few.
Having read the previous postings on the SACAA, as well as the latest, I can only shake my head in disbelief, as it is clear that things are not well with them. When a Regulatory Authority breaks its own rules, and allows others to break them as well with no recourse, then you must know the writing is on the wall.
Why don't the aviation organisations stand together, put a team of experts together to represent them all, and make representations to the Minister about the problems they're encountering in the industry? Make the Minister aware of the lawlessness and the Wild West attitude of the SACAA.
Surely that will pave the way for remedy?
Having read the previous postings on the SACAA, as well as the latest, I can only shake my head in disbelief, as it is clear that things are not well with them. When a Regulatory Authority breaks its own rules, and allows others to break them as well with no recourse, then you must know the writing is on the wall.
Why don't the aviation organisations stand together, put a team of experts together to represent them all, and make representations to the Minister about the problems they're encountering in the industry? Make the Minister aware of the lawlessness and the Wild West attitude of the SACAA.
Surely that will pave the way for remedy?
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Freightboss, those CAA w rs that come to you for inspection and route checks that insists on getting flying jobs with you should be named and reported. Even suggesting such a thing is nothing but a corrupt mind.
Mind you, one can sort of expect it. The working environment at the SACAA with all those "Actors/Actresses" must be hell.
Can you imagine all those wannabees, all wanting, wanting, wanting......
Serious..... prima f donnas.
rs that come to you for inspection and route checks that insists on getting flying jobs with you should be named and reported. Even suggesting such a thing is nothing but a corrupt mind.Mind you, one can sort of expect it. The working environment at the SACAA with all those "Actors/Actresses" must be hell.
Can you imagine all those wannabees, all wanting, wanting, wanting......
Serious..... prima f
donnas.
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Wow! Guys calm down. No amount of shouting, screaming, and threatening will change the politics and the reality of the situation.
I have been part of CAA a few years ago.
The writing was on the wall then and the Board could have stopped it. No ways. The desire to have blacks was so great that they employed them from outside the borders if they could not find them locally. As a government body employing foreigners despite having suitably qualified “white” people was frowned upon. But what could we do….. nothing. There is a profound believe that it (experience etc) can all be read and obtained out of a book. Its true, some senior safety manager made that statement in his speech on departure from CAA. I cannot remember his name but I think he is now with the Airports lot.
However, I believe we are all truly professionals and will continue to carry out our function (s) on the flight deck or where or what ever you do to maintain the safe operation of your aircraft and that of your company.
Aviation in this country will remain safe despite the CAA.
No company can afford to have an accident and therefore safety will and must prevail.
You all know the saying: “ if you think training and safety is expensive, try an accident”.
The only people or organization that could possibly change all that is ICAO – international pressure.
H E L P
I have been part of CAA a few years ago.
The writing was on the wall then and the Board could have stopped it. No ways. The desire to have blacks was so great that they employed them from outside the borders if they could not find them locally. As a government body employing foreigners despite having suitably qualified “white” people was frowned upon. But what could we do….. nothing. There is a profound believe that it (experience etc) can all be read and obtained out of a book. Its true, some senior safety manager made that statement in his speech on departure from CAA. I cannot remember his name but I think he is now with the Airports lot.
However, I believe we are all truly professionals and will continue to carry out our function (s) on the flight deck or where or what ever you do to maintain the safe operation of your aircraft and that of your company.
Aviation in this country will remain safe despite the CAA.
No company can afford to have an accident and therefore safety will and must prevail.
You all know the saying: “ if you think training and safety is expensive, try an accident”.
The only people or organization that could possibly change all that is ICAO – international pressure.
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Well said Whenwe...!
Uh, but I can also see why the others are so vociferous in their descriptions of the late, lamented CAA.
Be that this were a 1st (or even a close 2nd) world country, then the @ssholes running the show would have long past been fired... sadly this will not happen, but the most incompetant will be promoted to 'Lord' status.
What is needed is for these comments to get to the CAA, to get to the major industry players, to get to the newspapers (yes, even them what know not of what they speak..), to get to Carte Blanche etc...
but - to get there with facts and figures...!!!!
Unfortunately, that will never happen.. Why...?
Because the name'rs and shamers will be victimised, they will find it difficult, if not virtually impossible to continue business. They will be subjected to arbitrary "inspections" and ridiculous punitive conditions, they will be forced to defend their very existence against an absolute abuse of power, even if only perceived power, it will still have the stamp of "official" on it..
All the while, the Hueys will fly, the backhanders will continue to be paid and the good guys come last..
Yes, it is a sad state of affairs - but until the SA public and businesses and aviation industry players unite and say ENOUGH, then it will continue.
I am but a small time GA pilot - but I am one who can now barely afford to fly due to the inumerable associated costs - never mind landing fees, but the new ATNS charges, weather charges, ridiculous airport specific (ie.pax taxes, fuel call-out, fuel prices) etc.etc... never mind the huge increases just to renew a licence..!
ALL aviation in this country, not only GA, is getting royally screwed - but WHERE is the outcry..??
Africa Adieu...
R
Uh, but I can also see why the others are so vociferous in their descriptions of the late, lamented CAA.
Be that this were a 1st (or even a close 2nd) world country, then the @ssholes running the show would have long past been fired... sadly this will not happen, but the most incompetant will be promoted to 'Lord' status.
What is needed is for these comments to get to the CAA, to get to the major industry players, to get to the newspapers (yes, even them what know not of what they speak..), to get to Carte Blanche etc...
but - to get there with facts and figures...!!!!
Unfortunately, that will never happen.. Why...?
Because the name'rs and shamers will be victimised, they will find it difficult, if not virtually impossible to continue business. They will be subjected to arbitrary "inspections" and ridiculous punitive conditions, they will be forced to defend their very existence against an absolute abuse of power, even if only perceived power, it will still have the stamp of "official" on it..
All the while, the Hueys will fly, the backhanders will continue to be paid and the good guys come last..
Yes, it is a sad state of affairs - but until the SA public and businesses and aviation industry players unite and say ENOUGH, then it will continue.
I am but a small time GA pilot - but I am one who can now barely afford to fly due to the inumerable associated costs - never mind landing fees, but the new ATNS charges, weather charges, ridiculous airport specific (ie.pax taxes, fuel call-out, fuel prices) etc.etc... never mind the huge increases just to renew a licence..!
ALL aviation in this country, not only GA, is getting royally screwed - but WHERE is the outcry..??
Africa Adieu...
R
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Whenwe, that dude is called George Urisi, and believe it or not, he is today the Airports Manager at FACT. A Nigerian national. He left the SACAA for ACSA, and the rest is history. ACSA is in exactly the same boat as the SACAA due to their rotten equity policy. Aviation & related services & airports are probably at its worst, management wise at this time. Monhla just can't handle it!
Anyway, to get back to the SACAA......
Most of the affirmative appointments at the SACAA have never been exposed to aviation. The few blacks there that now know something, have been schooled by their white mentors, and some of them learned quick, and are efficient at their job(s).
I fail to understand though why the Minister is so set on filling the senior positions with blacks that are so clueless. It will help if Radebe exposes the appointees to a training camp prior to their appointment, so that they can at least familiarise themselves with what an airplane looks like, what is front & back, and how it functions before taking up their jobs. And I'm not exaggerating. Look at the recent published stories of SACAA Inspectors screwing up on numerous issues, from fuel type to piston & turbine engines. Now that is a disgrace, let alone embarrassing. Eeeeesch Sehêr, ah didna know. Eesch I made a real ps of maself. Yeah right!
With regards to the CAA breaking their own regulations...... there are numerous reported cases. Now when that happens, you must know its serious. Here is a Regulatory Authority supposedly mandated to apply those regulations, and prosecute those that break them. Now they can't do that, because they can't prosecute themselves. For that their legal department is dumber than dumb, and their miserable prosecutions records indicate just that.
In a nutshell, I'm of the belief that it is only a matter of time before the entire SACAA collapses into a non functioning, pilotically controlled entity. Just the other day on one of my visits, one of the secretaries told me that the SACAA was sometimes totally out of control, and that there was only one person who could control them, Mr. Trevor Abrahams. Makes you think huh? The folkes that chased ol Trevor out of there are now longing to have him back. How ironic is that?
Viva Cosatu Viva Jeff Radebe Viva the deceased SACAA, VIVA Oh yeah, and Viva Trevor Abrahams!
Anyway, to get back to the SACAA......
Most of the affirmative appointments at the SACAA have never been exposed to aviation. The few blacks there that now know something, have been schooled by their white mentors, and some of them learned quick, and are efficient at their job(s).
I fail to understand though why the Minister is so set on filling the senior positions with blacks that are so clueless. It will help if Radebe exposes the appointees to a training camp prior to their appointment, so that they can at least familiarise themselves with what an airplane looks like, what is front & back, and how it functions before taking up their jobs. And I'm not exaggerating. Look at the recent published stories of SACAA Inspectors screwing up on numerous issues, from fuel type to piston & turbine engines. Now that is a disgrace, let alone embarrassing. Eeeeesch Sehêr, ah didna know. Eesch I made a real p
s of maself. Yeah right!With regards to the CAA breaking their own regulations...... there are numerous reported cases. Now when that happens, you must know its serious. Here is a Regulatory Authority supposedly mandated to apply those regulations, and prosecute those that break them. Now they can't do that, because they can't prosecute themselves. For that their legal department is dumber than dumb, and their miserable prosecutions records indicate just that.
In a nutshell, I'm of the belief that it is only a matter of time before the entire SACAA collapses into a non functioning, pilotically controlled entity. Just the other day on one of my visits, one of the secretaries told me that the SACAA was sometimes totally out of control, and that there was only one person who could control them, Mr. Trevor Abrahams. Makes you think huh? The folkes that chased ol Trevor out of there are now longing to have him back. How ironic is that?
Viva Cosatu
Viva Jeff Radebe Viva the deceased SACAA, VIVA Oh yeah, and Viva Trevor Abrahams!
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This one is especially for Sakhile, Pulé and all my really good black friends at the SACAA. Wena! Aikona!
The SACAA reminds me of the black student pilot named Pulé. He had to have his instruction given in Fanakalo (it is so), not due to the instructor being inept in the native language, but due to the student not being conversent in English. (This is common at the SACAA I believe.)
They walked out onto the apron and what followed is captured in the following dialogue:
Manji, Pulé, lo flymachine yena cona pambili, yena lo Harvard Mk11A two seater.
Lapa pambili ka yena, wena yasi buka lo propellor. Lapa muva le, yena lo tail wheel. Pantsi kalo two ma-wing, wena yasi buka lo two ma- main wheel. Skati wena quella pezulu kalo ma- wing, wena yasi buka lo cockpit.
Pulé listened to all this with great amusement. What amused him most was the interior of the cockpit and so he exclaimed: " Hau, basie, maningi "Swiss watch"! He was generally refering to the many instruments.
Anyway or rather, "futi" he progressed into the front seat whilst the instructor got into the rear seat.
The Instructor went through the pre-start drill and finally the Pratt & Whitney was running. It was time to taxi and Pulé was in his element. First lesson!
Now, the dialogue went something like this: Pasoppa lo hangar, Pulé, pasoppa lo hangar! Needless to say, the boy taxied straight into the ing hangar. The instructor ordered his second Harvard Mk11A two seater for the morning. This was becoming common practice!
Pulé however, was learning and the taxi to the holding point went better the second time. It was time for "Take off". Futi, Pulé yena fakili lo petrol and lo fly machine yena balekili pambili na lo speed. Lo skati yena quella lo moya, Pulé yena enza yena upside down. Manji, lo instructor yena jtella yena: "ini wena enza?" Mar, pambili kalo skati lo Pulé yana's koluma, yena pumili lo fly machine.
Manji yena, Pulé yena hamba pantsi. Lo into yena hayiyasi, yena lo into kalo "parachute". Futi yena hambili pantsi tot yena chiya lo ndlela kalo fly machine. Mar, hayi zikon'daba, yena chiyili lo ndlela na lo skop ka yena. Yena lo'ndaba Pulé yena OK.
Manji, lo into mina funa koluma, yena lo into kalo SACAA!. Noko lo "appointment" yena kona, noko lo "appointment" yena aikona yena aizikondaba! Indaba, lo skati wena gabanga dat lo ma-instruments yena fanakalo "Swiss Watch", wena stupid straight!
So my dear friends, now you know why the Zimbabwean Instructors are coming to teach the SAAF students. Because lo SAAF students yena ayikona yasi lo english futi yena gabanga lo ma-instruments yena kona lo ma "Swiss watch".
The SACAA reminds me of the black student pilot named Pulé. He had to have his instruction given in Fanakalo (it is so), not due to the instructor being inept in the native language, but due to the student not being conversent in English. (This is common at the SACAA I believe.)
They walked out onto the apron and what followed is captured in the following dialogue:
Manji, Pulé, lo flymachine yena cona pambili, yena lo Harvard Mk11A two seater.
Lapa pambili ka yena, wena yasi buka lo propellor. Lapa muva le, yena lo tail wheel. Pantsi kalo two ma-wing, wena yasi buka lo two ma- main wheel. Skati wena quella pezulu kalo ma- wing, wena yasi buka lo cockpit.
Pulé listened to all this with great amusement. What amused him most was the interior of the cockpit and so he exclaimed: " Hau, basie, maningi "Swiss watch"! He was generally refering to the many instruments.
Anyway or rather, "futi" he progressed into the front seat whilst the instructor got into the rear seat.
The Instructor went through the pre-start drill and finally the Pratt & Whitney was running. It was time to taxi and Pulé was in his element. First lesson!
Now, the dialogue went something like this: Pasoppa lo hangar, Pulé, pasoppa lo hangar! Needless to say, the boy taxied straight into the
ing hangar. The instructor ordered his second Harvard Mk11A two seater for the morning. This was becoming common practice!Pulé however, was learning and the taxi to the holding point went better the second time. It was time for "Take off". Futi, Pulé yena fakili lo petrol and lo fly machine yena balekili pambili na lo speed. Lo skati yena quella lo moya, Pulé yena enza yena upside down. Manji, lo instructor yena jtella yena: "ini wena enza?" Mar, pambili kalo skati lo Pulé yana's koluma, yena pumili lo fly machine.
Manji yena, Pulé yena hamba pantsi. Lo into yena hayiyasi, yena lo into kalo "parachute". Futi yena hambili pantsi tot yena chiya lo ndlela kalo fly machine. Mar, hayi zikon'daba, yena chiyili lo ndlela na lo skop ka yena. Yena lo'ndaba Pulé yena OK.
Manji, lo into mina funa koluma, yena lo into kalo SACAA!. Noko lo "appointment" yena kona, noko lo "appointment" yena aikona yena aizikondaba! Indaba, lo skati wena gabanga dat lo ma-instruments yena fanakalo "Swiss Watch", wena stupid straight!
So my dear friends, now you know why the Zimbabwean Instructors are coming to teach the SAAF students. Because lo SAAF students yena ayikona yasi lo english futi yena gabanga lo ma-instruments yena kona lo ma "Swiss watch".
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josh that was a holler , verryy funny, sniff sniff kinda reminds me of that old dude doing the immitation of the old zulu guy telling his grandchildren of the way white people play golf !
freightboss cancel all aviation, damn skippy
how about we do the following:
1 get saflyer and/or world airnews to do a campaign like they did a few years ago re fees? and bring the inept SACAA under the spotlight and have them shaken up a bit...ok , a lot
2 or, start a parallel governing body like .....um, DCA , get it up and running, doing things right this time, and then all the pilots / operators etc all switch to the new improved DCA, in doing so pulling the rug out from under the yahoos at SACAA, or is it 'die dam onder die eend uit'?
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kinda reminds me of that old dude doing the immitation of the old zulu guy telling his grandchildren of the way white people play golf !freightboss cancel all aviation, damn skippy
how about we do the following:
1 get saflyer and/or world airnews to do a campaign like they did a few years ago re fees? and bring the inept SACAA under the spotlight and have them shaken up a bit...ok , a lot
2 or, start a parallel governing body like .....um, DCA , get it up and running, doing things right this time, and then all the pilots / operators etc all switch to the new improved DCA, in doing so pulling the rug out from under the yahoos at SACAA, or is it 'die dam onder die eend uit'?
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My dear friends.
When I started reading this topic, I thought my posting would be one of backing the SACAA completely. My thoughts were something like this: ” Stop complaining. You guys should see the Banana Government’s attempt of an Aviation Regulatory Authority in the place where I work...”
My thoughts on what my own posting should include changed rather quickly as I continued reading all the other postings (and postings on other topics) and as memories of my own past experiences and the experiences of people in the aviation industry that I know came back to me.
First thing. “…experience can be learned from a book…” what a ds ! I agree, the way that things are going is not good, it’s scary! An authority breaking the rules that it’s supposed to enforce! What is happening to aviation safety? Getting facts together and putting them out there for the public via the newspapers, SA Flyer and the other aviation magazines is a good idea. They (the public) trust that when they climb onboard an aircraft (including a chopper/won’t say which one…), that the operator abides by the rules laid down by the regulatory authority, the pilots have the appropriate licenses making them competent, “professional” and safe… I wonder how the SA republic will react if they hear that the regulatory authority is braking their own rules, which they designed for safety; operators, pilots and aircraft are flying without the proper licenses and services! I wonder…
Now with all of that said I might also add that I’m a positive person. I had some very good experiences with the CAA and I believe they can make it work. We have a lot of problems in our SACAA, but I believe that during time, appointing the experienced people with all the “correct” expertise, hard work and an attitude of “I will rather help you the best I can than screw you over” the CAA can get out of it’s Vortex-ring state.
I would like to finish on a positive note: “Good luck to the good ones that are in the CAA and trying their best to make a difference, I’m sure their hard work will pay of.”
When I started reading this topic, I thought my posting would be one of backing the SACAA completely. My thoughts were something like this: ” Stop complaining. You guys should see the Banana Government’s attempt of an Aviation Regulatory Authority in the place where I work...”
My thoughts on what my own posting should include changed rather quickly as I continued reading all the other postings (and postings on other topics) and as memories of my own past experiences and the experiences of people in the aviation industry that I know came back to me.
First thing. “…experience can be learned from a book…” what a d
s ! I agree, the way that things are going is not good, it’s scary! An authority breaking the rules that it’s supposed to enforce! What is happening to aviation safety? Getting facts together and putting them out there for the public via the newspapers, SA Flyer and the other aviation magazines is a good idea. They (the public) trust that when they climb onboard an aircraft (including a chopper/won’t say which one…), that the operator abides by the rules laid down by the regulatory authority, the pilots have the appropriate licenses making them competent, “professional” and safe… I wonder how the SA republic will react if they hear that the regulatory authority is braking their own rules, which they designed for safety; operators, pilots and aircraft are flying without the proper licenses and services! I wonder…Now with all of that said I might also add that I’m a positive person. I had some very good experiences with the CAA and I believe they can make it work. We have a lot of problems in our SACAA, but I believe that during time, appointing the experienced people with all the “correct” expertise, hard work and an attitude of “I will rather help you the best I can than screw you over” the CAA can get out of it’s Vortex-ring state.
I would like to finish on a positive note: “Good luck to the good ones that are in the CAA and trying their best to make a difference, I’m sure their hard work will pay of.”
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One thought occurs.
The quality of the staff at CAA should not be critisised because of their politically forced incompetence.
Should you not rather comply honestly with the regulations and engage in dialog with the authorities to change the regulations to suit everyones needs. The said regulations have been in force for many years and plenty of folks managed to run compliant organisations for many years with very little trouble.
I left an organisation for the very reason of continual confrontation with the rules. I now operate a new AMO based on these rules with no compromise and guess what - NO confrontation. Yes I still have problems and misunderstandings but we have worked around them.
Stay on the right side of the law and the police will leave you alone!!
Has it occurred to anyone that the present system is being changed for the worse because of only a few who break the rules. Why not rather publically cry wolf to those people who are #@%&^*^%$# ng it up for all of us.
And yes we have been engaged in constructive dialog to contribute our thoughts on the writing of new rules for certain categories of aviation maintenance. I have also been in a situation where I had to explain something to a new inspector. How else are they going to learn if we dont teach them?
In fact the very reason they dont know is because somebody did not bother to teach them!!
The quality of the staff at CAA should not be critisised because of their politically forced incompetence.
Should you not rather comply honestly with the regulations and engage in dialog with the authorities to change the regulations to suit everyones needs. The said regulations have been in force for many years and plenty of folks managed to run compliant organisations for many years with very little trouble.
I left an organisation for the very reason of continual confrontation with the rules. I now operate a new AMO based on these rules with no compromise and guess what - NO confrontation. Yes I still have problems and misunderstandings but we have worked around them.
Stay on the right side of the law and the police will leave you alone!!
Has it occurred to anyone that the present system is being changed for the worse because of only a few who break the rules. Why not rather publically cry wolf to those people who are #@%&^*^%$# ng it up for all of us.
And yes we have been engaged in constructive dialog to contribute our thoughts on the writing of new rules for certain categories of aviation maintenance. I have also been in a situation where I had to explain something to a new inspector. How else are they going to learn if we dont teach them?
In fact the very reason they dont know is because somebody did not bother to teach them!!
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Compliance wouldn't be a problem if those whose job it is to enforce the regulations knew what they were doing. Being wrongfully targetted by inspectors who aren't even licenced to work on the machine and have no idea what they're doing, is counterproductive. The amount of time it takes to sort out their screwups, a lot of that in court, could be put to better use growing a business.
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Grommet, you sound like a real grommet. (A thing to plug a hole with) Maybe you have an empty hole???
Its not about racist whites. Its about the new administration that are so incompetent and utterly useless.
Do you like paying for bad service, bad food and bad wine? Somehow I don't think so.
The SACAA at this time is nothing but utterley useless. They can't make or take decisions, and unfortunately for them, there are NO qualified or competent "black pilots" in their administration except for one, Captain Reiling. So how do you expect them to do their job competently? The bottom line is that they can't.
Its not about racist whites. Its about the new administration that are so incompetent and utterly useless.
Do you like paying for bad service, bad food and bad wine? Somehow I don't think so.
The SACAA at this time is nothing but utterley useless. They can't make or take decisions, and unfortunately for them, there are NO qualified or competent "black pilots" in their administration except for one, Captain Reiling. So how do you expect them to do their job competently? The bottom line is that they can't.
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Don't start an argument about racism. The racism present in SA at present where the hue of your skin precludes you getting a job is something you'll find pretty difficult to justify in light of the so called "liberation struggle".
Remember, two wrongs don't make a right...
Don't start an argument about racism. The racism present in SA at present where the hue of your skin precludes you getting a job is something you'll find pretty difficult to justify in light of the so called "liberation struggle".
Remember, two wrongs don't make a right...