Turkish rollercoaster over Iceland
Joined: Oct 2019
Aviation Qualifications: Non-Aircrew
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From: USA
While some audio alert that the controls are being pulled in opposite directions is something to consider, it's already noticeable by the PF that the PM is no longer PMing and it is very obvious to the PM that they are also no longer PMing. Unless one or both told the other about this as a desired change, I think that a little voice isn't going to clarify much about conflicting inputs; perhaps it should say "REDUNDANT INPUTS: WHO IS IN CHARGE OF FLYING THIS PLANE?"
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: England
We assume too much
If as supposed above, the crew were startled, unable to comprehend, then why, with hindsight, should we expect CRM to be effective.
The industry increasingly promotes the idea that safety interventions will be effective in all situations, all of the time.
We forget that the real world is uncertain, and that whilst "the human element is the most flexible, adaptable and valuable part of the aviation system, it is also the most vulnerable to influences which can adversely affect its performance" ICAO Human Factors Training Manual.
Time to revisit the assumptions in safety management and operations.
P.S. MechEngr; little voices are not heard - comprehended when surprised.
The industry increasingly promotes the idea that safety interventions will be effective in all situations, all of the time.
We forget that the real world is uncertain, and that whilst "the human element is the most flexible, adaptable and valuable part of the aviation system, it is also the most vulnerable to influences which can adversely affect its performance" ICAO Human Factors Training Manual.
Time to revisit the assumptions in safety management and operations.
P.S. MechEngr; little voices are not heard - comprehended when surprised.
