"Pull the plug!" Delta A321 disagrees with ground power cable - Seattle
I always wondered why they used to suggest you remove the plug, bring it INTO the cabin. I understand it's a plug so "bigger" than the hole, but it always seemd like it would be a significant impediment to a quick egress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCYIfrjHIKA
Dont know if pax’s seating at these exits are briefed on this specifically.
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A related issue: Why are manhole covers round?
In other words, condemning emergency services for their response time may be premature...
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As much as we do appreciate your consistency tdracer; America can do wrong. Fair enough. How are you pleased that it's an Airbus?
However it's plugged into JFK/Mogadishu
Meanwhile in the 21st century, this an example of how not to do things.
In the meantime "roll the trucks full of excuses".
However it's plugged into JFK/Mogadishu
Meanwhile in the 21st century, this an example of how not to do things.
In the meantime "roll the trucks full of excuses".
No, I don't care it's not Boeing (although the press sure as hell would be all over it if it was).
I never said no one did anything wrong - just pointing out that, without knowing when Fire and Rescue was called, it's pretty early to criticize the Fire and Rescue response time.
Or does it make you happy this happened in your hometown?
I never said no one did anything wrong - just pointing out that, without knowing when Fire and Rescue was called, it's pretty early to criticize the Fire and Rescue response time.
Or does it make you happy this happened in your hometown?
No idea if it is a decree or a law.
I carry my passport , documents and wallet on my person, incase such a situation should develop.
But hey, Old Skool !!
What worries me far more than the passengers, is the number of ramp workers who can be seen just milling around and doing nothing while this electrical arcing was going on. There's a guy near the nose and a guy and a small truck in front of the starboard wing, who just walk or drive away.
Either they did not see the problem - in which case why were they not being more observant ? - or they did see it and did nothing.
GPUs have red emergency STOP buttons, and I would like to hope that a ramp worker would be able to realise that electrical arcing, fire and black smoke was not normal, and hit the STOP button. Or at the very least; run up the steps and alert the flight deck.
Either they did not see the problem - in which case why were they not being more observant ? - or they did see it and did nothing.
GPUs have red emergency STOP buttons, and I would like to hope that a ramp worker would be able to realise that electrical arcing, fire and black smoke was not normal, and hit the STOP button. Or at the very least; run up the steps and alert the flight deck.
Uplinker, precisely. Hence my "Leaders of the free world...unbelievable" jibe.
What worries me far more than the passengers, is the number of ramp workers who can be seen just milling around and doing nothing while this electrical arcing was going on. There's a guy near the nose and a guy and a small truck in front of the starboard wing, who just walk or drive away.
Either they did not see the problem - in which case why were they not being more observant ? - or they did see it and did nothing.
GPUs have red emergency STOP buttons, and I would like to hope that a ramp worker would be able to realise that electrical arcing, fire and black smoke was not normal, and hit the STOP button. Or at the very least; run up the steps and alert the flight deck.
Either they did not see the problem - in which case why were they not being more observant ? - or they did see it and did nothing.
GPUs have red emergency STOP buttons, and I would like to hope that a ramp worker would be able to realise that electrical arcing, fire and black smoke was not normal, and hit the STOP button. Or at the very least; run up the steps and alert the flight deck.
OMG, this doesn't look positive.
let's see details on aviators herald
let's see details on aviators herald
Interesting, did the cabin crew re-engaged the doors!
I should have thought the ground power was from a unit on the air-bridge and dolly, not a mobile diesel unit; there was a person running towards the bridge wheel truck unit.
The older single aisle aircraft I have worked on had a lanyard to be attached to an anchor on the wing top surface to guide pax from overwing exits (pre air slides) and then to slide down the TE flaps.
Pax on wing had watched flight US1549 evacuation or subsequent film.
Most airports in my days positioned a mobile fire extinguisher during engine starts.
I should have thought the ground power was from a unit on the air-bridge and dolly, not a mobile diesel unit; there was a person running towards the bridge wheel truck unit.
The older single aisle aircraft I have worked on had a lanyard to be attached to an anchor on the wing top surface to guide pax from overwing exits (pre air slides) and then to slide down the TE flaps.
Pax on wing had watched flight US1549 evacuation or subsequent film.
Most airports in my days positioned a mobile fire extinguisher during engine starts.
Last edited by aeromech3; 17th May 2024 at 03:48.
My puzzles here: the 400Hz ground power connections have '2' short pins which complete a hold on circuit such that if the connection becomes loose the power through the standard pins is disconnected to prevent arcing.
The aircraft is very sensitive to accepting ground power, it must be clean and of very tight tolerance.
Aircraft are designed various ways to Not mix ground and aircraft power.
The ground power source also has safety and will not hold in otherwise.
Worn cable sockets or damaged rubber would be a possibility, as the aircraft is relatively young and aircraft pins not likely to be subject of abusive or weather.
The aircraft is very sensitive to accepting ground power, it must be clean and of very tight tolerance.
Aircraft are designed various ways to Not mix ground and aircraft power.
The ground power source also has safety and will not hold in otherwise.
Worn cable sockets or damaged rubber would be a possibility, as the aircraft is relatively young and aircraft pins not likely to be subject of abusive or weather.
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Far more likely that the GPU / Airbridge power cable was damaged in some way, by being run over for example.
The sense pins and conductors to enable the power to be fed might have been OK, but perhaps there was a deep gash in the cable which allowed two main conductors to arc.
Or possibly, the connector itself was damaged by being run over or trapped in some way, so the main pins, (sockets actually), might have been loose inside the connector and arcing together.
Either way, it's good revision for us all to remind ourselves where the emergency stop buttons are during our walk-arounds
The sense pins and conductors to enable the power to be fed might have been OK, but perhaps there was a deep gash in the cable which allowed two main conductors to arc.
Or possibly, the connector itself was damaged by being run over or trapped in some way, so the main pins, (sockets actually), might have been loose inside the connector and arcing together.
Either way, it's good revision for us all to remind ourselves where the emergency stop buttons are during our walk-arounds