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Old 19th Jan 2024, 12:44
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Atlas Air 747-8 inflight engine fire

"MAYDAY, MAYDAY" was declared, so that's already a good point for the crew

Atlas Air's Boeing cargo plane makes emergency landing after engine malfunction

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I thought this looks like compressor stall and multiple surges at first. Not so sure now. Good job gents.
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they didn't waste any time to get back on the ground, it seems

FR24: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...859gt#33ac35b1

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Looks like a bit more than a simple stall, with bits and pieces falling out of the back!
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With such a short hop to SJU they may well have already been below MLW..... One less thing to think about
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Was 74Gear onboard?
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Not sure about below MLW, "53 tonnes fuel / 5 hours on board" reported by the crew
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 14:02
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Not sure about below MLW, "53 tonnes fuel / 5 hours on board" reported by the crew
OEW is roughly 195T
MLW 346T so unless they had more than 100T of payload..
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 14:17
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Atlas Air 747-8 engine running a bit hot

Looks like something worth returning for... No.2 engine causing the crew to return to Miami.
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Originally Posted by 747-8driver
MLW 346T
indeed, I had incorrectly 306T, but that seems to be for the -8I


In the meantime, attached the KMIA Departure comm's for Giant95 filtered out (in .zip as per forum requirements)


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Was 74Gear onboard?
Who knows, I've the impression the pilot (on the comm's) is non-native US ... requesting the QNH
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Not sure about below MLW, "53 tonnes fuel / 5 hours on board" reported by the crew
listen again… He actually said 5 Souls onboard!

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Already being discussed here: https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...gine-fire.html
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My first thought, too. Hopefully he does a video anyway.

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Was 74Gear onboard?
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
listen again… He actually said 5 Souls onboard!
Wonder how many dead bodies he was carrying as cargo?
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 15:43
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
listen again… He actually said 5 Souls onboard!
If my memory is correct he's at one point asked what the fuel on board equates to and there he mentions 5 hours.
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Looks like they were dispensing flares...
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 16:03
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Originally Posted by FUMR
If my memory is correct he's at one point asked what the fuel on board equates to and there he mentions 5 hours.
indeed, 5 hours was even mentioned twice in the recording:
00:31 about 5 hours of ... fuel on board
00:45 we have 53 tonnes on board
00:50 about 5 hours
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GE engine B747F engine fire after takeoff

Well handled, the engineering report regarding cause of this failure will be interesting

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/349997
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 23:05
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I long for the day when ATC stops distracting crews by asking for hours of fuel. If I’m busy with an emergency, that’s the last thing I’m thinking of.

Surely there’s a table they can be provided that gives them a rough conversion to endurance. Any number I give over the radio is probably going to be an equally rough estimate.
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I long for the day when ATC stops distracting crews by asking for hours of fuel.
For my (happily few) communications with ATC during situations of great pilot stress, I have found that my response to such questions of: "Cannot Comply" usually redirects ATC to not worry about such details. If they really, really have to know, they'll ask again when my stress level is lessened....
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