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DIBO 19th Jan 2024 12:44

Atlas Air 747-8 inflight engine fire
 
"MAYDAY, MAYDAY" was declared, so that's already a good point for the crew :8

Atlas Air's Boeing cargo plane makes emergency landing after engine malfunction


TURIN 19th Jan 2024 12:53

I thought this looks like compressor stall and multiple surges at first. Not so sure now. Good job gents.

DIBO 19th Jan 2024 12:57

they didn't waste any time to get back on the ground, it seems

FR24: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...859gt#33ac35b1
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....32587ff927.jpg

PENKO 19th Jan 2024 12:59

Looks like a bit more than a simple stall, with bits and pieces falling out of the back!

Magplug 19th Jan 2024 13:12

With such a short hop to SJU they may well have already been below MLW..... One less thing to think about

LOWI 19th Jan 2024 13:38

Was 74Gear onboard?

DIBO 19th Jan 2024 13:40

Not sure about below MLW, "53 tonnes fuel / 5 hours on board" reported by the crew

747-8driver 19th Jan 2024 14:02


Originally Posted by DIBO (Post 11579260)
Not sure about below MLW, "53 tonnes fuel / 5 hours on board" reported by the crew

OEW is roughly 195T
MLW 346T so unless they had more than 100T of payload..

Jhieminga 19th Jan 2024 14:17

Atlas Air 747-8 engine running a bit hot
 
Looks like something worth returning for... No.2 engine causing the crew to return to Miami.

DIBO 19th Jan 2024 14:21

1 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by 747-8driver (Post 11579272)
MLW 346T

indeed, I had incorrectly 306T, but that seems to be for the -8I


In the meantime, attached the KMIA Departure comm's for Giant95 filtered out (in .zip as per forum requirements)



Originally Posted by LOWI (Post 11579254)
Was 74Gear onboard?

Who knows, I've the impression the pilot (on the comm's) is non-native US ... requesting the QNH :)

Out Of Trim 19th Jan 2024 15:20


Originally Posted by DIBO (Post 11579260)
Not sure about below MLW, "53 tonnes fuel / 5 hours on board" reported by the crew

listen again… He actually said 5 Souls onboard!


Saab Dastard 19th Jan 2024 15:24

Already being discussed here: https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...gine-fire.html

IBMJunkman 19th Jan 2024 15:30

My first thought, too. Hopefully he does a video anyway.


Originally Posted by LOWI (Post 11579254)
Was 74Gear onboard?


Lomon 19th Jan 2024 15:41


Originally Posted by Out Of Trim (Post 11579323)
listen again… He actually said 5 Souls onboard!

Wonder how many dead bodies he was carrying as cargo?

FUMR 19th Jan 2024 15:43


Originally Posted by Out Of Trim (Post 11579323)
listen again… He actually said 5 Souls onboard!

If my memory is correct he's at one point asked what the fuel on board equates to and there he mentions 5 hours.

procede 19th Jan 2024 15:58

Looks like they were dispensing flares...

DIBO 19th Jan 2024 16:03


Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11579343)
If my memory is correct he's at one point asked what the fuel on board equates to and there he mentions 5 hours.

indeed, 5 hours was even mentioned twice in the recording:
00:31 about 5 hours of ... fuel on board
00:45 we have 53 tonnes on board
00:50 about 5 hours

Teddy Robinson 19th Jan 2024 21:47

GE engine B747F engine fire after takeoff
 
Well handled, the engineering report regarding cause of this failure will be interesting

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/349997

Check Airman 19th Jan 2024 23:05

I long for the day when ATC stops distracting crews by asking for hours of fuel. If I’m busy with an emergency, that’s the last thing I’m thinking of.

Surely there’s a table they can be provided that gives them a rough conversion to endurance. Any number I give over the radio is probably going to be an equally rough estimate.

Pilot DAR 20th Jan 2024 01:02


I long for the day when ATC stops distracting crews by asking for hours of fuel.
For my (happily few) communications with ATC during situations of great pilot stress, I have found that my response to such questions of: "Cannot Comply" usually redirects ATC to not worry about such details. If they really, really have to know, they'll ask again when my stress level is lessened....


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