JAL incident at Haneda Airport
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Why would that possibly be pertinent? Those of us who are actually pilots fly in to airports we’ve never visited, and don’t get killed on a fairly frequent basis.
No ADS-B target visible for the coast guard plane, neither on ground nor in-flight. Approach and landing speeds looking normal.
Flight appears to be JAL516 from Okinawa, rego JA13XJ hex id 8467d8
Flight appears to be JAL516 from Okinawa, rego JA13XJ hex id 8467d8
Haneda normally has a few coast guard aircraft on the north ramp where we often get parked for medevac ops. Those include a few G-V, F-2000's. They also have Saab 340, Dash 8-300 and Kingairs. Taking a hit from an A350 on landing is going to be a bad day for the coast guard crew.
The video of the fire fighting efforts is disturbing. If they ran out of AFFF or whatever they are using that fast, I would be surprised. It appears they were applying minimum effort with one guy at the rear with a hand held hose, and one from the front. Apparently the fuselage likes burning after all. There is going to be some fall out after this one, while it permitted the first 90 seconds window fine, the whole plane being consumed by fire is going to take some explaining. Vale to the coast guard crew, one apparently escaped.
Looks like the RH engine on the A350 continued to run for some time, the E&E bay would have taken a hit, it appears to be running during the evacuation.
Coast Guard aircraft was apparently one of the Dash-8 300's
The video of the fire fighting efforts is disturbing. If they ran out of AFFF or whatever they are using that fast, I would be surprised. It appears they were applying minimum effort with one guy at the rear with a hand held hose, and one from the front. Apparently the fuselage likes burning after all. There is going to be some fall out after this one, while it permitted the first 90 seconds window fine, the whole plane being consumed by fire is going to take some explaining. Vale to the coast guard crew, one apparently escaped.
Looks like the RH engine on the A350 continued to run for some time, the E&E bay would have taken a hit, it appears to be running during the evacuation.
Coast Guard aircraft was apparently one of the Dash-8 300's
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Complete hull loss, still violently burning now through (somewhat bizarre) Live footage provided by various news outlets. I suppose at least a positive to take from this is that the fire developed slowly, affording those onboard enough time to evacuate safely.
I'm getting reports from a relative who lives in Japan. Latest news is that 5 crew members on the Coastguard aircraft are likely to have perished with only 1 pilot known to have survived at this time
JAL flight 516 was from Shin Chitose in Hokkaido.
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I completely understand your point however there seemed to be a small response to this initial incident with firefighting assets arriving very late (an hour after the incident). I am sure all of this will come out in the subsequent reports and focus should be on the safe evacuation of pax.
A screengrab from the video in Post #30:
Plane is moving rapidly right-left, on a runway.
It does look as if it is nose-down.
I hope everyone really did evacuate safely.
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Plane is moving rapidly right-left, on a runway.
It does look as if it is nose-down.
I hope everyone really did evacuate safely.
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I completely understand your point however there seemed to be a small response to this initial incident with firefighting assets arriving very late (an hour after the incident). I am sure all of this will come out in the subsequent reports and focus should be on the safe evacuation of pax.