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Business jet on the grass last week Geneva.

Old 17th Dec 2023, 14:00
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Business jet on the grass last week Geneva.

Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?
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Old 17th Dec 2023, 20:57
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Originally Posted by binzer
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?
did you check the avherald?
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Old 17th Dec 2023, 21:04
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It was a taxi incident. They got stuck in the very muddy grass as there has been lots of precipitations lately. The recovery was also hampered for the same reasons.
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Old 18th Dec 2023, 06:44
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Aeritime is suggesting it was a runway overshoot: https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/g...rshoots-runway
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Old 18th Dec 2023, 07:11
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Originally Posted by Pearly White
Aeritime is suggesting it was a runway overshoot: https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/g...rshoots-runway
Nope - just botched their taxi :/
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Originally Posted by atakacs
Nope - just botched their taxi :/

Just seems weird nothing about it has been mentioned, normally someone has put up the whole days metars, who we can blame and what we can learn from it… And now the conspiracy theory, there’s more to it and it’s being blocked on here by those in power 😀
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Old 18th Dec 2023, 07:58
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Unidentified Beech 400 OK-PPP taxying from the north apron to the south one.




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And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023

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And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023
Looks like a very professional job indeed!

I'm surprised that the airport fire service appear to have carried out this recovery themselves using their own equipment!

Is it normal for an airport fire service to hold this level of equipment and speciality? Not only is the kit very expensive to purchase and maintain but the training for the crews is significant.

I'd have expected this to be outsourced to a specialist contractor.

Don't get me wrong - I think it's great that they have it and use it to such good effect - it's just that i'm surprised.

Sorry for thread drift.
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Old 18th Dec 2023, 10:24
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https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/348796
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Old 18th Dec 2023, 11:12
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Originally Posted by binzer
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?
You should've posted this last week.
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Old 18th Dec 2023, 12:44
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Originally Posted by OvertHawk
I'm surprised that the airport fire service appear to have carried out this recovery themselves using their own equipment!

Is it normal for an airport fire service to hold this level of equipment and speciality? Not only is the kit very expensive to purchase and maintain but the training for the crews is significant.
Geneva ARFF is public sector. Without going down the rabbit hole of Swiss local politics, well funded and well staffed emergency services seem to be popular with voters over there... The flipside is that Geneva ARFF may be tasked to respond to incidents all over the canton of Geneva if deemed necessary, not just the airport itself.
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Thanks Joe!

That makes a bit more sense. Seemed like a significant cost and training burden just for a normal AFFRS.

Cheers!
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And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023
Nice. Though they seemed to skip the bit where they actually pulled it off the grass.
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