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binzer 17th Dec 2023 14:00

Business jet on the grass last week Geneva.
 
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?

ave 17th Dec 2023 20:57


Originally Posted by binzer (Post 11558214)
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?

did you check the avherald?

magyar_flyer 17th Dec 2023 21:04

It was a taxi incident. They got stuck in the very muddy grass as there has been lots of precipitations lately. The recovery was also hampered for the same reasons.

Pearly White 18th Dec 2023 06:44

Aeritime is suggesting it was a runway overshoot: https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/g...rshoots-runway

atakacs 18th Dec 2023 07:11


Originally Posted by Pearly White (Post 11558506)
Aeritime is suggesting it was a runway overshoot: https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/g...rshoots-runway

Nope - just botched their taxi :/

binzer 18th Dec 2023 07:26


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 11558514)
Nope - just botched their taxi :/


Just seems weird nothing about it has been mentioned, normally someone has put up the whole days metars, who we can blame and what we can learn from it… And now the conspiracy theory, there’s more to it and it’s being blocked on here by those in power 😀

DaveReidUK 18th Dec 2023 07:58

Unidentified Beech 400 OK-PPP taxying from the north apron to the south one.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....41de34f5f6.jpg


DaveReidUK 18th Dec 2023 09:26

And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023


OvertHawk 18th Dec 2023 10:09


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11558567)
And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023

Looks like a very professional job indeed! :ok:

I'm surprised that the airport fire service appear to have carried out this recovery themselves using their own equipment!

Is it normal for an airport fire service to hold this level of equipment and speciality? Not only is the kit very expensive to purchase and maintain but the training for the crews is significant.

I'd have expected this to be outsourced to a specialist contractor.

Don't get me wrong - I think it's great that they have it and use it to such good effect - it's just that i'm surprised.

Sorry for thread drift.

Less Hair 18th Dec 2023 10:24

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/348796

TURIN 18th Dec 2023 11:12


Originally Posted by binzer (Post 11558214)
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?

You should've posted this last week.

Joe_K 18th Dec 2023 12:44


Originally Posted by OvertHawk (Post 11558598)
I'm surprised that the airport fire service appear to have carried out this recovery themselves using their own equipment!

Is it normal for an airport fire service to hold this level of equipment and speciality? Not only is the kit very expensive to purchase and maintain but the training for the crews is significant.

Geneva ARFF is public sector. Without going down the rabbit hole of Swiss local politics, well funded and well staffed emergency services seem to be popular with voters over there... The flipside is that Geneva ARFF may be tasked to respond to incidents all over the canton of Geneva if deemed necessary, not just the airport itself.

OvertHawk 18th Dec 2023 15:13

Thanks Joe!

That makes a bit more sense. Seemed like a significant cost and training burden just for a normal AFFRS.

Cheers!
OH

netstruggler 18th Dec 2023 15:38


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11558567)
And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023

Nice. Though they seemed to skip the bit where they actually pulled it off the grass.


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