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Old 25th Jul 2023, 13:07
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Super Scooper down while firefighting on Evia.

Sadly, A Greek firefighting plane crashed while performing a mission on the island of Evia, state-run ERT reported Tuesday. The broadcaster showed images of the plane crashing into a ravine in the Karystos area of the island after dropping water on a wildfire.

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CL-215 down in Greece

Sadly another firefighting accident, whole sequence captured on video:


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Part hidden by the TV logo but looks like something clipped off right wing? Something flashes as though tumbling away?

Edit: right hand float breaks away, right wing leading edge possibly damaged as well... Such a sad loss of life.

Twitter link from other thread shows more clearly.

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Originally Posted by treadigraph
Edit: right hand float breaks away, right wing leading edge possibly damaged as well...
Yes, clipped the large tree just after the start of the drop.

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In Nikiana right now. Zero issues here.
Was admiring a double flypast of a Canadair CL-215 last evening
Spoke to a Greek Mil C130 driver an hour ago.
Tells me it was the selfsame aircraft.

Bugger !!!

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Would a mild clip like that render the aircraft uncontrolable? The wing seems to be all there?
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Does the right aileron stay up after the wing tip clip?
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RIP firefighters - evia, greece

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Originally Posted by Georg1na
Would a mild clip like that render the aircraft uncontrollable?
If it jams the aileron full up as suggested below, then yes.

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Does the right aileron stay up after the wing tip clip?
Hard to see, could be the case. Left aileron is clearly full up, I cannot discern any rudder.

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Drop load, right turn, and then we see it go down.
(Wonder if an engine quit on them, or rolled back, during the turn?)
Tough to assess from that view. Any idea of the wind direction?

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I would have thought it flyable afther that clip. It seems to me that the clip knocked it into a steeper bank and scubbed some air speed off, into a attitude that was unrecoverable at that altitude.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
Drop load, right turn, and then we see it go down.
(Wonder if an engine quite on them during the turn?)
Tough to assess from that view. Any idea of the wind direction.
Might have something to do with the right wing versus trees rather than an engine failure.
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
Might have something to do with the right wing versus trees rather than an engine failure.
It looks like the right wing float departed after the tree strike

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Old 25th Jul 2023, 16:02
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I had to run it a couple more times to see what you referred to. Nice catch.
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Looks like float off as skadi says and perhaps aileron damaged deflected up sending it into right turn and unrecoverable.

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Clipped that tree with the right wing, tore off the right pontoon (possibly jammed/bent the right aileron deflected upward), and put the plane into a hard skid - all at low airspeed. Couldn't roll left, and hard left rudder would have slipped the plane lower. He ran out of options pretty fast. RIP
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Far too many 215 crews are dying while being overly aggressive with their drop runs.
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Originally Posted by Cough
Does the right aileron stay up after the wing tip clip?
I wondered exactly the same . Tragic incident.
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Sad news in any case.
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Right wingtip float departed ,and appears to have full aileron up,possibly jammed,causing the overbank.....?
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